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EU Gives Turkey 1 Month To Change Behavior Or Sanctions Would Follow

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On August 28th, European Union High Representative Josep Borrell gave a list of possible staggered sanctions to be imposed on Ankara if it continued its activities in the Eastern Mediterranean.

The deadline for Turkey to change its behavior is September 24th, when the extraordinary EU Summit on relations with Turkey is to begin.

Borrell said that the EU was prepared to sanction Turkish vessels, blocking their access to EU ports and a ban on their access to European infrastructure, capital and technology.

“We can go to measures related to sectoral activities… where the Turkish economy is related to the European economy,” Borrell told a news conference in Berlin.

He also urged Ankara to “stop unilateral actions,” saying that de-escalation was a “key condition” for dialogue.

On the same day, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said that he had spoken with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and discussed the creation of a mechanism to de-escalate tension within the alliance.

Erdogan insisted that Turkey wants a mutually beneficial deal for all countries in the Eastern Mediterranean.

In a statement after the summit, the spokesman of the Turkish Foreign Ministry, Hami Aksoy condemned the EU for its unconditional support of its member state Greece and that it further escalated tensions.

“It is not up to the EU to criticize Turkey’s hydrocarbon activities within its own continental shelf and to call for their termination. Because, as confirmed by the European Court of Justice, the EU has no jurisdiction on this matter. This call is contrary to the EU’s own acquis and international law,” the statement read.

“We invite the EU and EU member-states not to support Greece’s maximalist claims in contravention of international law, under a pretext of union solidarity,” it added.

Turkish Vice-President Fuat Oktay on August 29th, accused the European Union of being “insincere” and warned that Turkey “will protect its rights over every cubic meter in the Eastern Mediterranean waters no matter what.”

“We [Turkey] are well aware of peace and diplomatic language, but we will not hesitate to do what is necessary when it comes to protecting the rights and interests of Turkey. France and Greece are among those who know this best,” Oktay said in an interview with Anadolu Agency.

If Athens’ attempts to expand its territorial waters isn’t a cause of war, then what is?” Oktay asked.

He referred to Athens’ plans to extend its territorial waters in the Ionian Sea and indications that similar moves may follow in other maritime areas.

Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis said in Parliament this week that Greece plans to extend the western limit of its territorial waters in the Ionian Sea to 12 miles.

Greece maintains a right to extend its territorial waters to 12 nautical miles in other sea areas, including the Aegean, when it sees fit, in accordance with the provisions of international law and its national interest.

Oktay said that “Turkey expects equity from the EU” and that “no one should expect Ankara to take a step back based on this equity.”

“It is insincere for the EU to call for dialogue on the one hand and make other plans on the other, regarding the activities we carry out in our own continental shelf in the Eastern Mediterranean,” Oktay also said.

One of the key islands that’s being used in the escalation of tensions is the tiny Greek island of Kastellorizo, located just 2 kilometers off Turkish shore.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan fumed that acknowledging Greek jurisdiction in the region would mean “imprisoning Turkey within its coastline.”

“The way Greece laid out Kastellorizo’s Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) links Greece’s zone to Cyprus’s, de facto restricting Turkey’s to the Antalya bay area,” explains Panayotis Tsakonas, director of the security program at the Hellenic Foundation for European and Foreign Policy (ELIAMEP).

“If the two countries can’t agree, they’ll have to bring their dispute to an international tribunal that will set the dividing line,” Tsakonas predicted.

And in recent days there were photographs of Greek troops getting off a tourist ferry on the island, as part of military exercises in the area.

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Servet Köseoğlu

we are living in the streets ..it will not work..its for greece..they are the mamas boy
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Harry Smith

Ban on Turkish access to European infrastructure, capital and technology could be very harmful for Turkey. You can sleep on street but would your army fight without salaries? Don’t underestimate the processes have started.

HiaNd

They have already US sanctions on military tech
So now they will have ZERO access on Western high tech & electronics.
And their butt buddy IsraHell will not help either not to make angry US and EU.

Harry Smith

High tech is nothing in comparison with capital. It was hard for Russia when we faced ban on EU and USA financial system. But we have oil and gas so the money inflow was reduced but not stopped. Turkey has almost nothing to export for USD and Euros. This is really bad for Turkey.

HiaNd

I think you underestimate importance of high tech for Turk MIC (production of Turk drones, choppers and all high tech products will stop and they will have NO SPARE PARTS to even fly their F-16 jets and choppers let alone to produce their high tech weapons or even less to export anything high tech !
So high tech is everything for Turk industry that can stop majority of productions, at least everything that counts.

For financial capital they have alternative in Chinese loans (as usual)

Harry Smith

Chinese have high tech too.

Servet Köseoğlu

only serious problem might be engines for navy..mtu(german)..the other military stuff someones wet,silly dream..

HiaNd

Only “wet” thing here is your pile of shit of the statement !
You are delusional to keep ANYTHING running without Western tech !
And to switch your Western standards electronics and designs would take 10 years starting from scratch !!
For which you don’t have spare time and spare money at all !

Servet Köseoğlu

how stupid you are.. as if you are related with our military industry knowing every inch of jets,radars,drones..if something serious occurs we will change our doctrine..ballistic missile will recover the gap..when china requsted us to allow ukanian varyag through bosphorus we had a condition.. guess what..natos shit rules doesnt allow us to show off.. but if needed it will be used various ones..

HiaNd

Read my comment again you simpleton !!!

Yes, you will “change your doctrine” because you have no other choice!!
But that will cost Turkey lots of money and lots of time to change everything!

You think you are smart yet you are nothing but second rate regional power.
West knows that “your” new anti-ship missile is bought from Ukraine just like ballistic tech.
So you already see yourselves as some would be big power yet you are decades behind with that very old Soviet know how.
Ordinary ballistic missiles are very easy to be shot down with good quality Russian AA system, so you can try to show of against Armenia and only if Russia permits you to do that.
Grow up out of those children stories. The best you could get was those Turk by Israel designed drones (bought know how from Israel) that you now can’t produce any more.

Servet Köseoğlu

anti ship missile we didint buy from ukraine..its your stupid fantasy again..neptun and atmaca are different..subsonic not a big deal..cost-efficient..with ukraine uav motor is promising,ı think we will see the results at 1,1-5 year.. are decades behind with that very old Soviet know how.(we are new born baby in this area,thats right but excellent solutions we already did.)Ordinary ballistic missiles are very easy to be shot down with good quality Russian AA system, so you can try to show of against Armenia and only if Russia permits you to do that.who the f.ck is armenia?why should ı engage with them?your ego is on rampage again..ordinary ballistic system with good saturation can f.ck up anything in its range..Israel designed drones
you dropped the soap again..no we dont have any drones related with israel..its your forposts and the other orions etc..and there is also russian factor which wants to increase its market share..

HiaNd

Is it?
So by pure coincidence Ukraine has “new” anti-ship missile when Turkey has one?!
And that “new” missile is old Soviet subsonic anti-ship missile upgraded by Western new electronics.
I am sure that both missiles will have the same or similar specs (range , speed etc;)
All that you do is OLD SOVIET KNOW HOW bought from Ukraine for both missiles end of story !
Do not bother me with your exalted idiotic Turk enthusiasm that is only HOT AIR !
On tech level you are still backward country that can’t produce 4th generation jet let alone something more adavnced!
And that is the FACT, doesn’t matter what you say!

You are just young teenage Turk fun boy retard.
I had enough of your stupid comments !

Do not post to me any of your crap or I’ll block your stupid ass !

Servet Köseoğlu

you can block me any time..you are animated stupid character…but somehow you are amusing me..wellpaid kremlin mouth..you can only bark at internet in reality lol..who the f.ck are you?ı can post anything ı want t o anyone..dont read stupid russian blogs..

guest

He is hasbara and tries to get attention by posting half-baked lies.

guest

You are Jew PUNK! and an attention seeking moron.

HiaNd

And you are from the PILE OF SHIT country origin I am 100% sure of that !
Go on your regular kissing of Turk asses with your boyfriend Zionism=EVIL !

guest

Use proper language you uneducated PUNK!

HiaNd

So you intend to put Chinese spare parts in F-16 ?!
Good luck with that!
All Turk weapons systems were built on WESTERN standards and WESTERN high tech !
It is IMPOSSIBLE to mix everything now to circumvent the problem!

guest

Learn to type normally you idiot. What’s with the caps and bold face?

HiaNd

fuck of PIG !

guest

just as I thought a foul mouth PUNK!

Zionism = EVIL

Actually, China now publishes more scientific journals than the world combined.

Shadow

We’ve already stored critical spare parts for our F-16s in the last years. Our airforces are mainly dependent on the US but it won’t cause a serious problem. Also purchasing SU-35s is always on the table.

HiaNd

Tell to some nitwit comments like that…I know my basics about military.
Your F-16 are already too old compering to Greek upgraded Block 52 while you can’t upgrade your F-16 jets at all !
Also because of sanctions you will start with cannibalization (like everybody else before in your situation.)
Even if you have important quantity of spare parts you can’t possibly have everything in huge quantities so it is silly that we talk about that.

Shadow

We’re upgrading our systems via ASELSAN and producing many parts here. I don’t say it will be easy but we’ll find multiple solutions don’t worry.

HiaNd

Why would I be “worried” when you are already VERY worried?

Shadow

Who said i’m worried lol. These are great years. They keep pushing us to the Eurasian side, where we geographically belong. Turks will grow much faster and become more powerful after getting rid of western hypocrites. We produce our own warships(MILGEM), UAVs, missiles and so on. Everything will be better soon. This is just a painful transition period.

Zionism = EVIL

Sanctions don’t work, the stupid Americunt arseholes could not break tiny Cuba for 70 years, let alone Turkey. Most EU failed states are beggars like Greece, Spain and Italy, and does anyone in their mind think they can threaten Turkey? while world power balance is shifting to Asia anyway.

HiaNd

Nice speech…was it in last Erdogans speech to gullible Turks?!
I am not Turk and I know better than that to buy your story.
You are worried simply because you are not that stupid to pretend that problem doesn’t exist.
Your UAV’s are Israeli know how and I am 100% that you do not produce all the components in Turkey and Israel or the West will not sell them to you now
So those nice UAV’s will not fly

Servet Köseoğlu

his mother gives him a birth during car crash..lmao..he thinks he is demi-god or something..

Angry Birds

Your muzzie mom wore a headscarf while giving birth to you :)))

Servet Köseoğlu

kilitoris speaking..

guest

No need to bring religion into a discussion.

Angry Birds

Yours was in a similar shameless state during labour :>

guest

He is uneducated attention seeker and resorts to insults and types like a teenager.

Vas

50% at least of the parts for those turkish made weapons are western imports. If they cut you the supply, you will do nothing and you will have to spend a lot more money which you dont have and many more years to develop your own.

guest

China would be happy to fill the void, and perhaps Russia which benefits from the death of NATO.

HiaNd

What ignorant RETARD you are !

Get out and leave competent adults adults to talk !

Putin Apologist

Su-35?

Russia and Greece are both Orthodox Christian nations… maybe you can buy something from the Chinese?

Servet Köseoğlu

s-400 chinese?

Putin Apologist

So the Turks think because Putin sold them the S-400 Russia continue selling them military equipment while they’re at war with Greece?

HiaNd

Turkey is not “in war” against the Greece.
As long as NATO and US, EU exist no war will ever happen.
How the hell is China comparable with the NATO member Greece anyways?
China is allay of Russia and Greece officially on enemy side for decades.
And having very much ANTI-Russian policy most of the time.

At the moment Russia doesn’t give fuck about Greece.
What Greek and Russian Orthodox feel for each other is another story

Servet Köseoğlu

putin sells anything..era of religion,ideology was closed..money doesnt stink,doesnt it?

HiaNd

No Putin doesn’t “sell everything” but they are capitalist country (great discovery of yours)
If Turkey buys now S-400 if also buying SU-35 …that will most probably be a direction taken towards the EXIT of the NATO

The Objective

What benefit does Turkey derive from NATO? Exit is better. It is the West that doesn’t want a Turkish exit as Turkey is a key gateway to the middle East.

HiaNd

It is TURKEY – Ergogan that doesn’t want exit
Nobody could really stop him if he really wanted to go out.
But he knows that Turkey is not ready yet and still to weak and still have more to lose than to gain by getting out.
Without EU market Turk economy would totally collapse within weak.

The Objective

Not totally collapse. EU accounts for about 50% of Turkey’s exports.
New markets are emerging. It won’t be long befor a handful of countries fill EU’s position. EU is not Turkey’s last hope.
Turkey still being in NATO has nothing to do with weakness. It’s all strategy. If Turkey really feared leaving NATO as you claim, then Turkey wouldn’t be taking such drastic measures against European interests in Libya and with Greece.
The US stands to lose the most and it won’t let Turkey leave easily.

HiaNd

Turkey didn’t do anything against Greece yet.
So all you talk about Turk importance or being aggressive toward Greece is just Turk theatrics and hot air without anything concrete.

Also EU sanctions are pending and valid so we will have possibility to see Turkey backing off from drilling just like Turkey has backed off from invading Sirte-Libiya on threat from Egypt.
WHAT “new markets” for Turkey ?!!?

Where ??!
On the moon maybe?
Don’t you follow the news that world economy is in COVID 19 RECESSION?

Turkey being member of NATO is sign of Turk insecurity and weakness that they try to present as their tactics.
And if Turkey doesn’t bend over and buys EU fighter jets instead of Russian or Chinese than Turkey will be in big trouble.
They can be even kicked out of NATO after big series of sanctions.

Codenamed 'Gordon'

Russia will never support the Sultan in a war against Greece. Moscow is considered the second Athens

Zionism = EVIL

Seriously, what is this a kindergarden? Greece is a tiny bankrupt shithole and even a moron could not think that it will go to war against Turkey, the 11th largest military power on earth. I kind these comments hilarious beyond belief. There is ZERO chance of any war.

HiaNd

Moscow is considered SECOND Athens ????!!!!?
Say it to the Russian and they would have seen that as an insult!

There WILL BE NO WAR between Turkey and Greece as long as NATO, US and EU exist and Turkey is NATO member !
Where do you get such silly ideas?

Russia has no wasted interest in defending one NATO country against another NATO country !
They are theoretically both ENEMIES of Russia so why the fuck would Russia care?!!

Codenamed 'Gordon'

Moscow is second Athens and Third Rome.

HiaNd

What retarded comment .
A “second Athens”?!?
Moscow is “second” to nothing and specially not to Athens or your London.

Never heard of it and will never be accepted by any Russian
Just another stupid Anglo-Saxon joke.

Go find some other hobby my dear NATO Anglo-Saxon.
Go study your history of Anglo-Saxons full of war-crimes and exploitation instead of cracking bad jokes.

The Objective

Russia is eagerly offering fighter jets to Turkey, but Turkey has not showed interest up till now. Another batch of s400 will soon be delivered to Turkey again.
One thing is certain, Turkey will soon stop depending on foreign suppliers for all of its weapons. That’s what both Erdogan and the defense minister said. Just chill, the struggle will continue. There will be difficulties for Turkey, but victory in the end.

HiaNd

It is tiring your overzealous glorifying of non existent strength and importance of Turkey.
If Turkey is what you are saying, they would be out of NATO and independent country LONG TIME AGO!!
You just keep exaggerating absolutely everything about Turkey
And that can’t possibly impress well informed person specially because you have nothing to show to confirm your claims.
Turk industry does produce choppers and drones but they are full of foreign parts and the drones are of Israeli design most probably bought know how.
Turkey is NOT CAPABLE to produce 4th generation fighter jet while country like Italy ,Sweden or even Czech Republic can do that.
I do not need better reference of Turk know how than that

The Objective

Okay, no need to keep arguing about this. Turkish drones demonstrated impressive efficiency on the battlefield. Experts agree that Turkey can produce fourth gen. fighters. Some express doubt with Turkey’s ability to develop a fifth gen fighter within a decade, but some say it is possible considering it’s experience building planes. Turks also are fast-learners. I’m pretty confident they’ll roll out Europe’s first 5th gen fighter.

HiaNd

(Israeli designed ) Turk drones for which they will soon be missing parts that they usually import from the West a,d can not producve them locally.
WHO are those ‘experts’ who claim that Turkey can produce 4th generation jet?
Some Turk assholes?

And where the fuck is that jet anyways if they can make one?
Why would they buy foreign if they can make one??!!
BOLLOCKS !!!!

Don’t tell me bollocks that Turks don’t want to make one?
Because I don’t buy that bullshit !
WHAT PLANES PRODUCTION???!!
You call receiving ready made building kits from US F-16 airplane production?
That is not true production( but assembly line) and NOT comparable to producing airplane from the scratch.

India was like that full of hot air about their 4th generation jet and it took them VERY LONG TIME to make one with engines, avionics and just about everything IMPORTED except programing software in which they are world class.

Codenamed 'Gordon'

it is a defensive missile system. Russia also offered it to the US. Su-35s are something else and will not be sold to a NATO country.

guest

Sold to Egypt which is controlled by the US.

Codenamed 'Gordon'

It is not the same as saying that Egypt is a NATO country controlled by the US.

guest

US has more day to day control of Egypt than any NATO nation with the exception of occupied Germany and impoverished Poland now. The SU-35 tech is already compromised along with the S-400. Russia sold S-300 to Greece in the 90’s.

Codenamed 'Gordon'

I don’t see the problem. Russia is testing its S-500 so I find it normal today to export S-400 (which has a specific version for export!)

HiaNd

What moron!
SU-35 and S-300 tech “compromised”?!!
Ha ha ha ha do you know how many bad copies there is of S-300?
Many countries have tried from China to Iran to even US to copy it.
But it is not as straight forward and simple as you think

For you all S-300 are the same anyways because you know JACK SHIT on the subject you Turk ass licking dork!

Lux et Veritas

homosexual troll, learn to type and spell. lol

HiaNd

Here it comes “De-Lux” licking of Turk ass in person !

You can lick my ass also just use bleach and alcohol to disinfect your filthy tongue !

The Objective

Why do you hate Turkey so much? Are you Greek? Every of your comments end with one kind of hate statement or the other.

Servet Köseoğlu

bingo.. that guy is legend..how he physically replies to every post is really jaw-dropping..now he will tell you:terrorist,hagia sophia,world power,historical enemy,sub-human,stolen lands stuff..

HiaNd

Why do you like Turkey so much if you are Sunni Arab?!?
What kind of Arab are you?

How can Arab be so much pro Turkey and neglect Syrian Arabs?!
Are you TURK?

You obviously don’t give fuck about their invasion of Syria and you don’t give fuck about Syrian Arabs or Iraqi Arab interests.
You PREFER TURKS !
I prefer Sunni Arabs to Turks always !
The only thing I don’t like about Arabs are their Zionist REGIMES !

The Objective

I am an African. I don’t hate the Arab POPULATION. I just have their Zionist regimes just like you. Our prophet was Arab, Quran is Arabic, so is Hadith and all classical Islamic literature.
But that doesn’t mean I should uncontionally love an Arab. If he becomes a hypocrite and harms or kills Muslims, then I’ll kill him given the chance. Same goes for the Turks.
But Erdogan is clearly better than all the Arab leaders today. He’s one of the best Muslim leaders to have emerged in modern times. This view is held by students of Islam and scholars, including those studying at Azhar university in Egypt.
Islam has nothing to do with race.

Servet Köseoğlu

this guy thinks sunnis only consisted of arabs and turks…just read Rt arabic,cheap outdated soviet propaganda by trolls everyday-allday especially against Turkey.. with zero effect of course..they dont have the dignity to understand our brotherhood…

HiaNd

OK

At least I understand your motives better now…

I took you for very strange Arab, or some Turk pretending not to be a Turk.
I will not to try to convince you in anything any more.
Your desire to embrace nation or personality that incarnates affirmation of your religion is legitimate choice and you don’t need antibodies approval for that.

But since Turks and Erdogan are really enemies of Syria they are mine enemies also.
I am very much pro Assad and pro Syria and Erdogan is no doubt their enemy..
So we are on opposite sides from now on.
And as you know I am not very nice and polite with my enemies

The Objective

You don’t have to be polite with me. You’ll find me more than enough match for any words you hurl at me. But don’t feel bad if I retaliate, cos I can really be mean too.

Codenamed 'Gordon'

Turkey spreads chaos and terror through its Janissaries recruited in the Middle East and sent as cannon fodder to Libya, Syria, Yemen, Armenia. This puppet state is not designed as state-sponsored terrorism provider just because it enjoys US protection sharing its final goals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-sponsored_terrorism#Turkey

Brother Ma

One doesnt have to be Greek to hate Turkey. One needs onkly half abrain amdti be litrate …to rradanf learn abour what Turkeyhas done in the past and still tries to do.
Even Moslems hate Turkey.

Servet Köseoğlu

you need to buy air-condition…just check the visit of Erdogan to russia..comment image

Codenamed 'Gordon'

I see that the Sultan took off his hat and bowed deeply to Putin.

guest

Fair to say that Turkey would prefer western tech which is superior. Russian planes so far have been on the losing side.

Servet Köseoğlu

and if you look longer to photo more than 2minutes you will definitely see the Garden of Eden

HiaNd

not deep enough….. but he is improving his skills…he deserves another opportunity..

The Objective

A big lie. But even if it were true, it’s only a temporary strategic move.
Turkey is not alone as most of you think. When push comes to shove, you’ll know just how many Muslims around the world will rally around Turkey, especially Pakistan, Malaysia, and Qatar. Turkey is the throne of the last Islamic caliphate. an attack on Turkey is an attack on Islam, and will trigger a chain reaction that the attackers will regret.

Johan

Your are crazy, the whole ummah is fake it is a wish of an old men who saw that their was no unity among muslims. The complete history of Islam is that of hate and violence among each other; arabs hate Turks like we hate Turks. There is a saying in the middle east, and it is statistical proven right: you can be from one thing sure among muslims: they do not trust each other not even their own wive. Believe me except from Azarbidjan and Qatar nobody will support the Sultan but many will stab him in the back.
I know Erdogan is that sick that he will reclaim the post of the Mahdi in 2024 some where in but Iwonder if hestill isaround then.

HiaNd

Wrong.
Russia has offered SU-35 to Turkey and SU-57 also.
Everything is negotiable

HiaNd

Yes they will.
Su-35 can easily be sold to Turkey if they show the interests (and the MONEY)
I can’t understand why are you making such big deal out of SU-35.
It has been published thousand times by Western and Russian news that Turkey might buy SU-35

The Objective

Russia even offered to sell Turkey su57, Let alone su35s. You obviously don’t read much. Just Google: Russia offers Turkey su-57.

HiaNd

There you just might be wrong!
Greece is very loyal NATO member and it just might be that getting Turkey out of NATO would be reason good enough for Russia.
Why would Russia care about Greek interests when Greece recently has negotiated with US-NATO on opening NATO military port on the coast of the Black sea?!?
That is 100% direct attack against Russia’s core interests.
Also Greek church has back stabbed Russian church when it comes to Ukraine and that is also Russian core interests
So you are WRONG …I think…Russia might be interested in selling of SU-35 to Turkey

Putin Apologist

You’re ignoring a thousand years of commonality, a shared religion, between these two civilizations. NATO is a temporary political phenomenon, one that’s under great distress.

I’m talking about a much deeper bond between two peoples. The twentieth century world wherein political and ideological beliefs held nations together is dying, being replaced by one based on civilizational ties. Orthodox Christianity is the foundation of all that is Russia. So Greece, Serbia and Armenia are Russia natural allies.

HiaNd

WHAT “shared” religion what “shared” Orthodoxy???!!
Greeks have stabbed Russia in their Orthodox heart directly !!!

You mean Greek recognizing of UKRAINIAN schism by accepting Ukrainian (ANTI – RUSSIAN) Orthodox church and taking thousand years old Russian churches and monasteries from Russian church and ethnic Russians and giving them to Ukraine?!
Is that how Greeks “share” with BETRAYAL?!

Are you kidding?!!
You couldn’t do better back stabbing of Russian Orthodoxy than that (if you are personally Greek)!
You are today working for Catholic church hand in hand working against the 2000 years old Orthodox Church and becoming enemy of Russian Orthodoxy as from now!
The same goes for Greek army and government that is deeply anti-Russian
I know that Greeks as people are not anti-Russian but friends of Russia.

Putin Apologist

So in your mind when the Turks are once again slaughtering Orthodox Christians in the Balkans Putin, the leader of a deeply Orthodox Christian nation, rushes in with weapons to support Erdogan, and by extension his neo-Ottoman ambitions? You do realize Russia and Turkey are on opposites sides in Syria and Libya?

HiaNd

Stop please with your theatrics.
Turkey is slaughtering nobody at the moment not even Kurds

Russia and Turkey are not on completely opposite side in Syria and that might evolve into something even better since situation globally mutates all the time and Turkey is every day more further from NATO.
In real politics China and Russia see Turkey as their potential ASIAN partner .
And that can change into the reality immediately once Turkey steps out of NATO.
Of course Russia and China would not oppose Turk ambitions (except maybe in Syria where compromise must be found)
Partners never encroach on each others interests

Putin Apologist

I agree “China and Russia see Turkey as their potential [economic] ASIAN partner” and both would like to see Turkey “out of NATO.” But Russia will “oppose Turk ambitions” in Syria, Libya, the Balkans and the Caucasus. And Russia, China, and even Iran will “oppose Turk ambitions” in central Asia.

It makes no difference, the West or the East, whichever camp Erdogan decides upon the Turks will have to remain in their box, no Neo-Ottoman nonsense, or they will not be welcome.

A “Pew Research Center found that the majority of people in Greece…51%… viewed NATO unfavorably”. Why should they? What has NATO ever done for Greece, besides arm its enemy, the Turks?

Did you know Greece opposed NATO’s bombing of Serbia? That Greece doesn’t recognize Kosovo’s separation from Serbia? Why? Because Serbia, like Russia, is also fellow Orthodox Christian nation.

The Greek people have no interest in joining Washington’s anti-Russia crusade.

HiaNd

I haven’t seen anything yet ( you are trying to teach me ) that I didn’t know already.
Situation is very simple.

If Turkey wants to be member of China, Russia club than Turkey will have to adapt to them and not opposite.
For the moment Turks still have classical NATO (anti-Syria) objectives with few discords with US only.

I have separated Greek people from Greek army command and government.
And I have separated even Greek church, that is now on anti-Russian positions, which is bit too much.
But somehow you didn’t read that I have nothing against Greek people.

I have impression that you do not read my comments attentively , obviously don’t care what I am talking to you.
This will not last forever. If I correct you for the 3rd time… Than after that we will not talk any more, because I do not have impression that we exchanged arguments here or that you car what I have to say.

I have impression that you are trying to lecture me all the time instead…

ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ

I agree with what you said

Putin Apologist

You said the “Greek army and government…is deeply anti-Russian.” I would like to why you think this is so.

And I forgot to mention Rome has been trying, unsuccessfully, to turn Orthodox Christians into Catholics since the time of Charlemagne.

HiaNd

I have told you ALREADY why for Greek army and government and for Greek church also!
But somehow you have reading problem so why would I repeat ?!!
Building of NATO military port in Black sea is direct attack on Russia

What Greece did was deeply anti-Russian and hardly in best interest of Greece at all !

Garga

Perhaps there are errors in this judgement. While it’s true that both countries are Orthodox Christians and their people might feel close together, these matters are not decided by ordinary people (Georgia is also Orthodox Christian and has its people have deep ties with Russians, can we call Georgian policies towards Russia friendly? How about Ukraine?). Why do you think these separations in the Orthodox Christian world are happening? Now every single country wants to be Autocephalus and create their own church.

Examples are numerous, Ukraine hostile to Russia, Republic of Azerbaijan hostile to Iran, Saudi/Emirati hostile to Qatar, Iraq attacked and fought Iran and many more examples of two countries with similar religion and ethnicity are not friendly. Neither religion nor ethnicity play any role in politics unless the leaders of the states will them to do so. Greece is also part of an alliance which is very hostile to Russia, though I think the Greek have no say in this matter and just have to follow obediently.

If it serves the interest of Russia, Russia will back Turkey against any country, including Greece and if not, then there will be no help. Simple as that.

HiaNd

It is SAD state of affairs that Muslim must explain to ONE DIMENSIONAL Orthodox Christian the basics of the real world, when it comes to Orthodox Christianity relations.

Codenamed 'Gordon'

Divide and rule

Brother Ma

Apart from a few fanatics i believe i most Georgians and ukros are actually Russian -frindly. Of course ,georgia ,greece and ujarine are against russia…their govs were handpicked by yankeezio to be so! How else xoyod a far left tsipras turn out to be more bootlicking than tge nirmal conservatives??

Garga

That is exactly my point, Brother.
Apart from shared ethnicity and history, shared religion is one the strongest ties that bound people of those countries together. They are pushing some sort fake ultra-Nationalism in those countries for some years and recently to separate the population further apart, they started to separate the churches.

HiaNd

If it serves the interest of Russia, Russia will back Turkey against any country.

That is (deliberate or not ) slinging mud at Russia to discredit Russia!
Russia would NEVER support Turkey against Greece!
And neither would Greek population support Greece attacking Russia as part of NATO.
We Orthodox are not like Muslims who are capable to kill people of their own religion and call that “holy war” !
We do not do that!

The Objective

Russia hates Europe for its subservience to the US.

Servet Köseoğlu

russia hates europe???..without europe russia is just like kazakhistan,greenland…

HiaNd

If Russia takes pee Turky will sink and drawn instantly.
So much what I think of Turk strength comparing to Russia

Servet Köseoğlu

we are master at surviving…keep your bs away from me..

HiaNd

Yes exactly, you are “surviving” country ONLY !!.

Servet Köseoğlu

you were the ”survivors” after collapse of ussr..dont get over-excited because of syria and dont pretend to be the leader of free world..you are always the third even fourth alternative to the countries who seek harbour in a hurricane..

HiaNd

Yeah, yeah so pathetic characters with ulcer problem keep saying that yet there is reality that shows Russian military on top today and clear match to everything US has to show.

Many countries that buy RUSSIAN weapons do that because of RUSSIAN PROTECTION.

The Objective

Yeah, I can hate you but still do business with you. It’s all about money.

HiaNd

And where did you get that?!
There are some countries in Europe with whome Russia gets along nicely (Italy, Cyprus, Spain etc.) and there are others mostly US stooges, that hate Russia insanely like Poland, Baltic’s so Russia doesn’t like them either.

The Objective

I meant much of Europe, not every single country.

Garga

It doesn’t matter how much spare parts you stored, it’ll bite you if you can’t produce them yourself and remain dependent for them or key repairs and overhauls to this or that country. Believe me, we learnt that the hard way.
And there is no different between the US and Russia in this regard, when their politics dictates that they deny you weapons or part, they’ll do it in a second. This was another lesson we learnt and it was also painful.

HiaNd

Who is more competent to speak on the subject but Iran with their US fighter jets and endless sanctions.
If you say that “Russia is the same” to US why don’t you give us ONE example at least where Russia have used “sanctions” and blackmail with spare parts like US?
Russia is world wide well known with their fair approach and not balcmailing anybody ever.
But do tell where was Russia “the same” to US?

Lux et Veritas

homosexual obsessed troll alert! Where is your love Zionism? lol

HiaNd

Go fuck your boyfriend Zionism=EVIL , do not waste my time you idiot !

Zionism = EVIL

Lebanese sources and Hezbollah have just confirmed several Khordad 3 batteries in Bekaa and Chouf.

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HiaNd

copy of Soviet BUK missiles

Garga

Oh what a wonderful news!
Thank you.

PS. I have to look for it to see those are in whose control. Lebanese army or Hezbollah. We’ll see what purpose they will serve. Please share if you found anything.
That could be worse than any revenge attack by Hezbollah for Zionists.

Zionism = EVIL

Read Sayyed Nasrallah’s speech, he called the Zionists scared running mice and massive revenge is coming. Al-Masdar has posted it. I am sure SF will cover the details. I had known about the airlift of the Khordad by just watching air corridor mapping sites, which I still enjoy from my flying days. Gives you an idea who is flying where. There is a lot of Russian traffic at Shiraz and Bandar Abbas lately ;)

Tommy Jensen

Is that going on right now??

HiaNd

Another false news from you !
Iran has no reason to tell Israel that kind of “news” in advance to put at risque their men and equipment and ruin surprise attack.

Lux et Veritas

Learning to type homosexual troll? no one reads your bizarre typing.

The Objective

Turkey’s fifth gen. fighters to begin flights in 2025 and enter full service in 2029.
Russia offers to be a partner in the program. Currently, the Turkish fighter is being worked on by about 3500 engineers. Turkey has been a partner in manufacturing the F35 and has significant experience building planes. The fighter will outperform the F35 in speed and range.
Currently, only the US and China have perfected fifth gen. fighter tech. Russia is expected to join soon when the su57 enters full service.
It is important to note that no European country has produced a fifth gen fighter. Turkey will be the first.
If the Turks can produce a fifth gen fighter, they should be able to produce much of what they need and buy what they don’t have from others. Even China is still importing weapons, so why shouldn’t Turkey.
Instead of giving into European pressure, Turkey should stand it’s ground and keep exploring alternative markets as it’s been doing for the past two decades under Erdogan’s leadership.

Servet Köseoğlu

my dear friend,if fifth gen. fighters to begin flights in 2025 ı will break my left arm(promising)..dont look ridicilous to these clowns..ps:trust me ı am an engineer..that jet has a wayyyy to go….we are doing pretty good things but doing 5th gen.fighter is equallly hard like inventing the talisman of realms to slow down time..its hell of a business..

The Objective

I think they’ll start flight-testing within that time. I’m very optimistic about that, and believes Allah’s help will be with them. Everything that has the help of God doesn’t take long to materialize. it starts succeeding within a few years.
So I stand by my believe that Turkey will start testing fifth gen fighters by 2025. And I’ll pray earnestly to that regard. It’ll happen.

Servet Köseoğlu

thanks your beliefs.. your and our brothers prays are always with us..we just need a time a break a moment to give our shot

Servet Köseoğlu

speaking of useless f-16s..another critical and cost effective solution to our Library…drones can do minor miracles..today is revealed trgl-230 missile with 70 km range..drones do the marking and missile uses GPS/INS guidance for targeting even for manoeuvring units…when you compare this tb2’s tiny mam-l,this missile is big step.comment image

HiaNd

Yeah sure they didn’t build 4th generation but they will build 5th ha ha ha ha

Only people without brains and fanatics (which you seam to be) believe in such bullshit !!!
Syria is full of dead fanatics who believed many things.

Go ask India where is their 5th generation jet that they were planing!!
But at least they have built 4th generation
which is MUCH MORE THAN TURKS !

The Objective

Turkey exports about $171billion worth of goods. About 50% of Turkey’s export are for Europe. While a European sanctions will hurt Turkey in the short term, but it’ll only make things more difficult for Europe in the future when they may need Turkey’s help in the Middle East and beyond. Thankfully, Turkey has been diversifying its export market to other Muslim countries.

Harry Smith

The cut off 50% of exports in time of the Turkish economy decline is absolutely bad situation.

angeloss

Ok… Turkey can cover loses from Pakistan, Kuweit, Indonesia…. Wow

FlorianGeyer

Turkey has a flood of refugees that can be exported to Europe :)

“Erdogan insisted that Turkey wants a mutually beneficial deal for all countries in the Eastern Mediterranean.”

In other words, Erdo wants the oil and gas and he will sell it to the EU :)

The Objective

Western tech is lagging behind what Russia and China offers at a much reduced price. There’s no anti aircraft system in the West that can rival the s400. Russia and China are also willing to sell Turkey jets that can substitute for F35. Besides, Turkey’s fifth gen. fighters are expected before the end of this decade.
The West made one mistake about Turkey: transferring significant weapons tech through joint development and production of weapons.
It’s a good thing for Turkey to move away from its enemies posing as friends.

Servet Köseoğlu

In terms of an integrated air defense system AEGIS is the ruler..land based s-400(although we couldnt see any feat but russian army is deploying which means its a serious bitch)

HiaNd

You are not bad person but when it comes to your knowledge and logic, they are always somehow incomplete. To put it very politely.
Turkey is systematically over estimated in her real military power.
Why it can be fun is is very counter productive since real war will be rude awakening for Turkey and all of you in that fun club.
I understand that Muslims need to have country that can represent their strength but I doubt that Turkey is good choice.
They are simply over rated because on paper they look very strong.
Just stupid statistics.

The Objective

That is your wish. If Turkey does it truly for Islam, then wait to see miraculous success. The only thing that will make Turkey fail is if they aren’t sincere in their intentions. Then Allah withdraws his help.

Servet Köseoğlu

my post was spammed(strange)..ı dont like to talk through assumptions..when they apply sanctions,we will see…ı think it was calculated..

Harry Smith

I read you post, our tinny Ukrop. Здоровэньки булы! ROFL

Servet Köseoğlu

ukrop..no ı never heard of her..

Mustafa Mehmet

They can stick their EU they can f*** off… Greece and their Cyprus Greek community puppet regime can stop hiding behind EU sisters. they should come out and face the music. go on be brave. mitsatokic and nico anastasia ??

Zionism = EVIL

NATO shitheads are done and the EU faggots can kiss Turkeys arse. They don’t have the balls, these cunts just bark like the Zionists and Americunt losers have been doing for 42 years now and done fuckall. Turkey is huge country and these stupid cunts need to buy a map. This is the Eurasian millennium.

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Johan

Like every time before first Europe will be reluctant to fight but the moment Turkey would attack Greece or an other European country they will join ranks as Merkel stated this weak and as it historical always did and Turkey might lose more then it suspect. Not only must Turkey face Europe but most of the arab world, 30% of its Kurdisch population who already blow up 8 weapon depots in the last weaks but 59% of its own population and all his neighbours.

Servet Köseoğlu

product european solidarity is already rotten..you are unsure of yourself..every digging the others hole..30% of its Kurdisch population who already blow up 8 weapon depots ..ı dont know which animations of pkk are you watching but CGI is pretty legit as far as ı understand..pkk is your drug dealers..all kind of drugs are transferred and distributed to all over europe and you are giving shelters to these clowns reffering to human-right..ı already forgot how many facades you have..genocides at africa,killing millions of jews,stealing archaeological, historical s your profession..such incompetency on part of europeans so called critics trying to form public opinion

Kohlhaas

“30% of its Kurdisch population who already blow up 8 weapon depots” WHAT? lol

The media in the west is much worse than I thought…

Brother Ma

As a Persian you need to wake up and stop adoring Turkey.

HiaNd

He is NOT PERSIAN!!!!
He is not pro-Assad either!

Brother Ma

I know but i still thought he was secular Pakistani or Persian. If he is not Persian then what is he? Smooth-talking israeli or Turk operarive /hasbarat?

Too many of those Pakistanis are ok as Moslems until they show their slavishness and want of Ottomanism.

HiaNd

For me judging by his English he is from English speaking ex-colony (leaving in Europe probably)
Hi is not African for sure so he is most probably Pakistani, Indian, Bangladesh of Muslim origin (not believer”secular” because he supports Shia Iran and Sunni Turks thus out of sectarian dispute)
He is not pro Assad or pro Syria by being pro Erdogan.
He is most definitely for ,some kind of unification against Western and other (“white bastards”) so that imaginary Muslim country or alliance can take their revenge.

He is most definitely for Muslim revenge against white Europeans and Americans.
Most probably as racist hating everything white Christian heritage specially colonial West.
Hiding that of course because so many USEFUL IDIOTS come from US and EU, UK and similar to cheer that devious perfidy full son of bitch in his bollocks stories!

Brother Ma

Good points. If he wants revenge on Europe and Christians he can shove a broom up his ass and loses all solidarity from me. If Moslems want revenge on Europe and Chrisrians they can start on America and Nato first. The Moslems haven’ t paid enough ” guilt money “for the sins they committed on Eastern/Southern Europe yet .

Any Moslem that thinks a Sunni moslem can ally with a Shia Moslem is a fool or a propagandist. I would help a shia moslem help fight a sunni moslem any day and although you dislike Iran ,I don’t. Nominally theocratic it appears much more freer than so-called Western Sunni states. Pthh! On Sunni headchopper pigs.

HiaNd

No he is no thinking that Shia and Sunni can allay
What he does,… he supports Iran simply because the most powerful Shia country and one of the most powerful Muslim countries
He is seeing in countries like Turkey (another powerful Muslim country)getting arrangement of interest with Iran and allaying themselves with Sunni Pakistan obviously to get nuke tech know how.

O course non of it is realistic but expressing his thirst for power and possibility to use that power by some powerful Muslim (Sunni?) alliance.

How can somebody be secular and in cynical way to use religion to obtain certain military objectives is another story.

I have no problem with Shia or Iran
I simply think that all Muslims deserve decent living and dignity

What I dislike about Iran on this forum is impression that they play dirty.
Even if you do not like Russia objectively Putin and Russia are victims of systematic denigration , humiliation ,ridicule and lack of respect (by pro-Iranian bots and few Western NATO bots)

Nobody else is ever attacked only Putin ( to hide attack on Russia also )!
So just Putin and Russia through him.
And by whom? Well generally by always same pro-Iranian bots like Zionism=EVIL and few of his friends.
The absurd is that those same people who were attacking Putin for being “soft” on Erdogan are today making compliments to Erdogan and Turkey!!!??
How the hell they can be pro-Syria and pro Assad if they like Turks and Erdogan so much?!
What the hell is happening here?!?!?
I am pro Assad and I know that Iran is formally strategic military allay of Syria and has even contractual obligation to help Syria.
So I do have problem if Iran attacks Russia (through bots)and not helping in Idlib to fight terrorists.

While lets not forget Russia is in Syria only to help destroying terrorists.

©igare☘☘e?Sm⚽️k?ng?Man️?

He can still feel the Alexander the Great ‘touch’ …
Greeks have destroyed 2 empires the Persian and the fagottoman before.

guest

I don’t believe that threats will intimidate Turkey, and most importantly NATO and EU have far more to lose if Turkey becomes hostile and shifts east.

HiaNd

MORE of Turk ASS LICKING AS USUAL by those who are spitting on Putin for being “too soft” with Turkey in Syria or “being in bed with Erdogan”

You and Zionism=EVIL are sleazy snakes….The human double faced whores.

Lux et Veritas

You imbecile again. You are like a jilted homosexual stalker ignored by your only love lol

Zionism = EVIL

lol, so true.

HiaNd

There he is!
Your boyfriend Lux!
He just have finished another licking of TURK ASS and is ready now and willing to have some faggot fun with you :)

James Adams

Shut the fuck up. Half of what you say is false !!!

HiaNd

“Half of what you say is false”
is understatement but still up-voted

Mustafa Mehmet

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HiaNd

Why are you sending me your father video?
I am not interested in your close family !

ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ

And this is Mustafa ha ha ha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCjbJkYoEY

HiaNd

Now I understand that warning that Turks are always ready for “attack from behind”…..fucking Turdogan fags!

ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ

xa xa xa xa xa xa xa xa xa xa

Brother Ma

Disgusting!

ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ

Come on, Mustafa, shake it. !! Hahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCjbJkYoEY

HiaNd

He is shaking his ass while all Turd army is watching ….
No need to to get homophobic, we have to accept the Turd army the way they are.
It is not their fault for being born faggots and trained that way!

So please say it aloud:
We understand Turd faggot army likes to fuck each other up their arse and their family and their domestic pets too!

But we still accept the fact that they like that very much; to be like that.

Mustafa Mehmet

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©igare☘☘e?Sm⚽️k?ng?Man️?

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HiaNd

She looks much better than the last time I saw her.

ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ

Yes yes I am a very bad guy !! xa xa xa xa

LeoSam

To shift east you will need to comply with International law and clearly turkish interests are not capable to comply with international law. Furthermore you will need to be able to pull your weight economically and you cant do that now. On top of it you will loose your geopolitical weight as part western part eastern country (that comes from nato, nuke bases , and special till now USA relation).
So at least for now NO you loose more and thats why erdogan havent done it so far.

Johan

If you state that you should be able to mention what we lose by getting rid of Turkey out of Nato. Not Eu because luckily Turkeynever made part of the EU and never will.

HiaNd

I can do that.

By “losing” NATO and other contacts with Turds EU will lose one huge source of illegal immigration.
George Soros will depend on Libya only

Zionism = EVIL

To be honest, these Americunt , Zionists and EU fags are just impotent arseholes. Iran has just deployed 3 major missile batteries in Lebanon and Syria.

Howdy kids, I have never posted anything but FACTS, as I had posted
three weeks ago, it is now confirmed that Hezbollah has deployed Khordad
2 Iranian SAM system in Lebanon near Bekaa.

Iranian air defense system spotted near Syrian-Lebanese border

BEIRUT, LEBANON (1:00 P.M.) – The Russian publication Avia.Pro posted a
satellite image on Sunday of what they claim to be an Iranian air
defense system near the Syrian-Lebanese border.

Citing an unnamed source, the publication posted a satellite image
that allegedly shows the deployment of the Iranian-made Khordad-3 air
defense system near the Syrian-Lebanese border.

“The source of the Avia.pro news agency has provided satellite images
showing at least three Iranian-made Khordad-3 anti-aircraft missile
systems on the Syrian-Lebanese border, from where most of the Israeli
F-16 attacks are made. The effective range of destruction of targets of
the latter is from 75 to 105 kilometers, which is enough to defeat
Israeli fighters in the event of new attacks on Syria,” the publication
said.

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HiaNd

Photoshop can do much more than that.
That is not proof of anything specially if the photo was edited by professional.
He can put those (on another photo) even close to Tel Aviv of need be.

Satellitte

no long time ago Turk were begging to be part of EU. When you realized that you are not European you become hostile ahaha

HiaNd

They always knew that they are not European.
Turks are opportunists.

The question is why all Europeans didn’t know that obvious fact for such long time?

Brother Ma

…because most European politician classes are bitch–boys for the yankeezios and have been told to clean Turk members with their tongues.

LeoSam

so it hurts to see that when you come out from under the USAs skirt thinking you are a man and better than all and see that you are not liked at all have no firm friends and your opponent has some (of some kind, cause we still dont trust them).

HiaNd

Finally something positive from those Brussels hypocritical cowardly cunts.
Sanctions squeezed troubled Turk economy will squeak like dying pig.
The harder they hit them the less will Turks spend for their Syrian terrorist rats!
Syria will be FREE fuck the TURDS !

Harry Smith

Independence of EU decisions could indicate that financial corporations don’t see USA as World Power anymore. Nothing good for Turkey.

HiaNd

OK all just don’t rush so much.
US is still around till dollar implodes so no need to pretend that they are not there and that dollar is still global currency.
EU is just following US sanctions so I would not agree with your deduction

Harry Smith

Nobody said that USA is dead. I just said that it is possible that financial corps don’t consider USA as Super Power any more. Please read once again my answer.

HiaNd

OK, You also read mine

“EU is just following US sanctions”

LeoSam

Not the only super power, maybe.
Make a sovereign statement to delude themshelfs, maybe.
Make a veiled statement wile they think that Trump will lose , maybe.
But not as far as not a superpower anymore.
Plus you have the germans that are traditional allies of the turks (at state lvl at least)…

Harry Smith

Yep. Not the only super power. This is the exact definition.

Shadow

Greeks are violating the Treaty of Lausanne(1923) by arming all islands to teeth. Look at the soldiers coming via civil ferryboats lol. Another reason for us to intervene them. Keep it up.

igybundy

Oh only turks can violate treaties and occupy other countries?

HiaNd

They can do much more than that, so it seams.
Time will only tell for how long…

guest

US and its Zionist overlords hold the deed to that title.

Vas

haha Intervene…lol you cant do shit mongols. And we will do whatever we want in our islands. All of them belong to us and the only thing u can do is sit in the corner and cry.

Angry Birds

Turkey is threatening Greece with war, in fact the Turkish parliament has voted in favor of casus belli in case Greece practises it’s legal right for 12nm territorial waters. With casus belli in effect Greece can militarize anything jus cogens since self – defence and national security is superior to any treaty.

In any case Lausanne does not stipulate full demilitarization of islands, only naval bases and fortifications are prohibited.

Once the relations with Turkey are normalized, maritime borders settled and the Cypriot issue resolved then Greece will reduce the number of troops stationed in some islands accordingly :))

guest

Hopefully, Greece is governed by grown-ups who are not contemplating euthanasia. A war with Turkey will destroy Greece and a wobbly NATO.

Angry Birds

I would hope likewise for Turkey.

guest

Yes, they all need to chill. There is more excitement here on SF than in the real world, which is focused on a scam pandemic.

LeoSam

The only treaty that provide for de militariesed islands is the one with italy after WW2 surrendering dodeckanese (SE agean islands) to greece. You are not signatory there so you cant complain about it. As far as Lausanne goes lets not start the violation list you have accumulated over the last almost 100 years.

mhtsaropinigitakis

come on guys it not about Greece and Turkey and Cyprus…this Show is because little Erdogan tires to avoid International Monetary Fund (IMF)… he removed his country from it some years ago and now he dosent want to enter again…while EU wants him to enter and is doing what is needed. simple as that..

HiaNd

Interesting news….Thanks mhtsajkgjhitakbjkis

Mustafa Mehmet

Dumb and Dumber supporting each other

HiaNd

only “dumb” was your sow mother to shit you in this world TURD !

Servet Köseoğlu

dont reply to this son of hooker…

johnny rotten

If you are not good I will punish you, they have reduced the €U to a kindergarten, curious to see the next level of degradation.

Zionism = EVIL

Seriously, sanctions on Iran, Russia, China, Venezuela, Cuba, you name it, these stupid trash cunts have deadbeat economies, rioting in the streets, millions unemployed and the Americunt shithole failed cesspool is burning and they think they can threaten anyone. It is worse than a dark comedy.

King Cliff

What about they actions and illegal presence in Syria,why the European don’t sanctions them for that.

Servet Köseoğlu

noone replied you ..it makes me sad..everything is ok..belgian gp will start at 16.10..take care..

HiaNd

Because Turks have at least Asatana agreement with Russia & Iran (and indirect Assad approval for Turk presence ) while US has NOTHING !

That’s why !

©igare☘☘e?Sm⚽️k?ng?Man️?

Syria is not a member of the EU.

d'Artagnan

Erdogan has opened too many fronts and even the EU vassals are tiring of his megalomania. US was scared of his erratic behavior that all nuclear weapons were removed from Incirlik.

Servet Köseoğlu

nuclear weapons are icons,worthless bluff..its not a deal..but if they remove this from kürecik then time will slow-down..comment image

HiaNd

nukes are still there…..they have removed only triggers…. without which they can’t be used…
It is much simpler solution than complete removing of nukes with the escort that would cost frortune.

Lux et Veritas

Turkey holds all the aces.

James Adams

Greece should unify with south Cyprus and then deploy troops in Lydia to Fight the Turkish mercenaries there.

Servet Köseoğlu

Lydia???what are you reading alice in wonderland?

©igare☘☘e?Sm⚽️k?ng?Man️?

Its not ”South Cyprus”. It is THE REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS.
The only recognised internationally authority / state in the whole of the island.

Mustafa Mehmet

South Cyprus gypsy community

©igare☘☘e?Sm⚽️k?ng?Man️?

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Mustafa Mehmet

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©igare☘☘e?Sm⚽️k?ng?Man️?

Is that you at work ?

Very professional shitkebap ! Well done !

Mustafa Mehmet

What with Greece bankrupt country can’t afford it. Lights off Greek people go to Istanbul to get a job

Fog of War

Seems all kinds of events are lining up to happen in October, The month Iran gets to purchase weapons again. Coincidental ?

Tommy Jensen

We have the rigth to extend the zone of Kastellorizo Island, located 2 km off Turkish shore, 10 seamiles into “Tyrkish” land and build a Greek Navy and a military base in this zone, as Alexander the Great’s land.

Turkey will have to get use to Greek music and close down the minaret. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucOgU4sVuD8

Mustafa Mehmet

Go ahead.

©igare☘☘e?Sm⚽️k?ng?Man️?

Turks are violating the Treaty of Lausanne.

…Turkey formally ceded all claims on the Dodecanese islands (Article 15), Cyprus (Article 20), Egypt and Sudan (Article 17), Syria and Iraq (Article 3).

Turkey was suppose to protect the Greek Orthodox Christian minority in Turkey.
Instead they murdered and/or drove them away and closed down churches with the most recent the Agia Sofia.
The Greeks of the Greek islands of Imvros and Tenedos that were given to Turkey under the Lausanne treaty are being oppressed too. The special administrative organisation status that was signed in the treaty has been broken unilateraly by Turkey since 1926 !!!
Turks are violating Greek FIR daily flying over Greek islands.
And of cource the Turks invaded Cyprus and still occupy the north east.

Giving the turks another 1 month to continue to violate the treaty of Lausanne and every international law possible just shows that the EU is a joke.

©igare☘☘e?Sm⚽️k?ng?Man️?

BOOM !

According to information published by Greek newspaper “Parapolitika”, Athens would buy Dassault Rafale to create a new squadron.

In addition to 10 newly built aircraft, France would deliver another 8 aircraft already in use in the French Air Force as a gift. In total, therefore, the number of Dassault fighters delivered to Greece would rise to 18.

In particular, it is reported that, as the immediate production of new aircraft is difficult, the possibility of an agreement with Egypt is reportedly being considered, in order to initially receive 10 of the 20 Rafale it has ordered and the other 10 to be delivered to Greece (Egypt has made significant markets for French weapons systems, including Rafale fighters, Gowind 2500 corvettes, Mistral helicopters and a FREMM frigate).

According to “Parapolitika”, in their recent communication, the Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis and the French President Macron reached the core of the agreement.

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Johan

It steals, it invades, it oppresses, it cheats, it threats, it lies, it kill’s, it jails, it kidnaps, it is unlawful and violent, it has no friends,it claims, blackmails and is utterly untrustworthy and unreliable : it is Turkey. The people of Europe and all other civilised Mondial countries do not like this Erdogan Country. Luckily it will be never make part of EEG. It is only tolerated by Nato in the time being that Erdogan will be replaced or die. But it is left out of as many as possible decisions and this will only proceed In a negative way. It/he is only kept because of Trumps stupid self enrichment and business interests in Turkey, but he will be forced in the end to follow his government, justice and army. Erdogan needs to distract the Turkish bation and the public from the disaster he created on all fronts in all matters fot the Turks and like all idiotes before him in that situation he blames others and looks for a good old enemy, because he locked up all supposed Turkish enemies he only gas the rest of the world to blame. Now it depends on the stupidity or intelligence of the Turks if they follow him in this suicide war he can not win or if they stop this unrealistic unworldly dictator living in a violent psychiatric world.

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cechas vodobenikov

snapback—self sufficient nations are able to weather sanctions better than those with fragile structurally unsound indebted economies such as turkey

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