Erdogan: Turkey Will ‘Thwart Games’ Along Its Borders. Start In Manbij

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Erdogan: Turkey Will 'Thwart Games' Along Its Borders. Start In Manbij

YPG members in northern Syria

Turkey will start from the town of Manbij in northern Syria to “thwart games” along its borders, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on January 24, according to Reuters.

Manbij is controlled by the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). Kurdish YPG/YPJ forces are the core of the SDF.

“I have doubts about the humanity of those who support this organization (People’s Protection Units, also called YPG) and call Turkey an invader,” Erdogan added speaking to local administrators in Ankara.

On the same day, Turkish Presidential Spokesman Ibrahim Kalin said that Turkey’s demand “is actually very basic, simple, clear and concrete”: the US has to drop its support to YPG/YPJ. However, it seems Washington is not ready to fulfill this demand.

On Janury 23, the US “could” cease support to units of the SDF, particularly Kurdish YPG and YPJ, in northeastern Syria that will join fighting in Afrin where the Turkish Armed Forces codnuct operation against local YPG/YPJ forces.

“If we observe scenarios in which that equipment [supplied by the US] is used for other purposes we are going to take appropriate action that could include cutting of military assistance to them,” Pentagon spokesman Adrian Rankine-Galloway told Anadolu Agency.

“If they [SDF/YPG/YPJ] carry out military operations of any kind that are not specifically focused on ISIS they will not have coalition support.”

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  • Europa Erwache

    Erdogan keeps falling to the trap.

    Which trap?

    To attack Manbij and Qamishli, so the US can attack him and establish a greater Kurdistan.

    Congrats Erdo boy! You are doing great blinded by your Neo-otoman stupidity!

    • Bru

      Why do you think the US did all these things those last years to destroy Syria and is still supporting Kurds?
      Because they hate Syrians and love Kurds?
      No they don’t care at all, they are only doing this because Israel sees it in its interest to destroy or weaken its neighbors.
      (This is even clearer now that unelected and not confirmed by congress Kushner is solely in charge of the Middle-East).

      Now Turkey has 2 leverages on Israel:
      – a huge NATO basis which maybe needed to defend Israel
      – a huge radar installation vital for detecting missiles coming from Iran towards Israel
      Turkey has aIready threatened to shut down this radar installation.
      Because these things are more important to Israel, the US will drop the Kurds and support Turkey instead.

      Never forget: Israeli interests go before anything else and are the only thing that matters.

      • KennyB

        Spot on, Bru. The Israelis are hopping mad that they haven’t been able to defeat Hezbollah and have been trying to weaken their support and supply lines from Iran. Has it not occurred to Israel to PAY for the water from Southern Lebanon and to seek friendly co-operation with their neighbours for the mutual benefit of all? Probably not, as Israeli-Zionist racism informs their decision-making processes.

        • dutchnational

          Fact is there are peace treaties and embassies with both Egypt and Jordan. There is cooperation (though strained at the moment) between Isreal and Jordan on several waterschemes incl a canal etc through Arava wadi to the dead Sea.

          As far as Lebanon is concerned, there has not been a functioning government there for many years and what there is includes Hezbollah..

          Would reading a bit more be advisable?

          • KennyB

            Israel has not been the least bit friendly towards Syria. How much reading does one need to do to see that?

          • dutchnational

            Well, you were talking of Isreals neightbours, plural, and so was I.

            Relations with Syria have indeed been bad for a long time.

      • dutchnational

        Incirlik’s use for Nato has gone as Turkey is no longer a reliable ally. Everytime Nato needed the base, Turkey opted out.

        The base is not needed for defense of Israel as now the US has an airbase within Israel and they can also use the two UK airbases on Cyprus. I can even foresee USN having the use of an Israeli navy base, if they want.

        • Barba_Papa

          Don’t they uses airbases in Jordan? I know our token air force contribution to the Coalition operates from there.

          • dutchnational

            I know of the airbase in Jordan. I do not know if it is a permanent Nato base.

            I share your feelings about our airforce. One can only hope that the enlargement of the budget will indeed take care of lack of spare parts and maintenance and that the F35 order of 37 F35 will be enlarged to 70 or so. Soon the turkish order will be reallocated to other countries. Maybe we can get first in line as one of the launching customers. The F35 assembly plant is very impressive btw.

          • Solomon Krupacek

            10 kurdistans ar not so important as bosphorus. your mountains are interesting only for patients with tuberculosis.

          • dutchnational

            For that one needs higher mountains. So SDF will have to take turkish mountains to help their sick?

            Might be a good reason to take that turkish area. Better than the reasons of Erdogan.

          • Graeme Rymill

            The US do operate from a Jordanian air base for strikes against ISIS. The Belgians used to use it too before they withdrew and now the Dutch use it as well.

            https://www.stripes.com/news/pentagon-budget-calls-for-143-million-buildup-at-jordan-air-base-1.498804

        • Solomon Krupacek

          you dream only.

          • dutchnational

            Yes, sweet dreams in fact.

      • s Slippy

        Props to you brother, a lot of truth in such a short comment!

        • Bru

          Thank you very much, s Slippy and also KennyB and George Fotiadis,
          for your very nice words.

          I think the only asset the Kurds have is therefore not the US (who will drop them when Israel will say so),
          but instead their hatred against the Turks, and this time combining this extreme hatred with a large number of troops and well equipped with high-tech US weapons, unlike their daily skirmish inside Turkey. I can imagine them not hesitating a second to die in combat as long as they can kill as many Turkish soldiers as they could never have hoped for in the past.

      • George Fotiadis

        So it is, spot on Bru, this is the truth.

      • Feudalism Victory

        America loses face if they bend to turkeys pressure. Become erdogans bitch to put it bluntly.

        I predict escalation.

    • Solomon Krupacek

      usa will not attck nato member

      • roberto silveira

        usa as mad as trump, hence…

        • Solomon Krupacek

          in this case mattis is important. although he is also nervous, but usa can not alone attack another nato member state. this is not iraq.

  • dutchnational

    Erdogan is living in La La Land.

    His olive branch is withering in Afrin with SDF forces now either opening an assault into Idlib or just raiding near TSK forces in Idlib.

    If he attacks Manbij, then the way is open for SDF to start an assault on the kurdish belt between Al Bab and Manbij and try to hook up with Afrin north west of Al Bab.

    Turkey trying to use their mercenaries as an (Euphrates?) shield will misfire once the lossess of the mercenaries become unsustainable.

    Then they will have to do their own dirty work.

    • Barba_Papa

      I don’t really mind that its faltering. It will occupy the attention of both the Turks and the Kurds, and the more FSA mercs get killed in Afrin, the less there will be later on to cause problems later on against the SAA. Assad and the Kurds can always reach a deal later on. You can’t reach a deal with headchoppers.

      • dutchnational

        Which is exactly why Assad does not mind letting reinforcements from Manbij etc into Afrin.

        • Solomon Krupacek
          • Graeme Rymill

            The US is not forbidding SDF going to Afrin. The US is saying if SDF units go to Afrin the US won’t support those SDF units.

          • Solomon Krupacek

            this is death sentence.

          • Eisenherz

            But that could be also empty promisses they gave to turkey for years. Remember whatever they promissed turykey the reality was exactly the opposite. More arming more surporting more training

          • Graeme Rymill

            There was a claim by Turkey’s Foreign Minister in November 2017 that Trump had verbally agreed with Erdogan to stop arming the Kurds. The US for its part reported the conversation only in the vaguest terms:

            “Consistent with our previous policy, President Trump also informed President Erdogan of pending adjustments to the military support provided to our partners on the ground in Syria, now that the battle of Raqqa is complete”.

            If their were earlier instance of the US agreeing to stop arming, training and supporting the SDF/Kurds I am unaware of it. Please cite sources as I cannot take your word for it.

          • dutchnational

            AMN has reports that many convoys have already passed into Afrin. So he does or did allow them.

  • s Slippy

    Its getting interesting boys, the Afrin offensive is a success thus far, lets hope the PKK in Manbij will face the same faith.

    • dutchnational

      Seeing the results, one can indeed only hope Erdogan gets the same results in Manbij. It might end up with SDF in control of the Azaz colony. as soon as TFSA has been wiped out.

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