Encouraged by US, Ukraine Prepares to Stage Military Provocation

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Written by Arkady Savitsky; Originally appeared on strategic-culture.org

There is a cause for concern and it’s real and very grave. Ukraine is being pushed to war. Kiev is not bluffing. Encouraged by its American tutors, it’s involved in dangerous games pursuing political purposes. It’s not about sanctions, warnings, statements and declarations – they want to provoke real shooting now. The time is right for ringing alarm bells before it’s too late.

The US President Donald Trump’s refusal to have a separate meeting with President Putin at the G20 summit in Argentina citing the Kerch Strait incident as a reason was not exactly unexpected. Obviously, Washington is interested in aggravating the Russian-Ukrainian relations. The introduction of the state of emergency in the territories bordering Russia, the concentration of Ukrainian troops in the Donbas region, and the call-up of reservists announced by Ukraine’s president – all these moves testify to the fact that war preparations are in full swing. Neither Washington nor Brussels have called on Kiev to show restraint.

Encouraged by US, Ukraine Prepares to Stage Military Provocation

Ukraine has recently announced its decision not to allow Russian men aged 16-60 into the country. This policy of Kiev is in stark contrast with what Moscow does. According to Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin, Russian President Vladimir Putin decided not to retaliate. No, quite the opposite – he ordered to simplify the procedures for Ukrainians asking for Russian citizenship. The move is intended to demonstrate good intentions. In late October, the Russian president signed the Concept of the State Migration Policy of the Russian Federation for 2019-2025 to facilitate the inflow of Russian speakers to the country.

US Air Force RQ-4 Global Hawk UAVs and US Navy P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft operate over the Black Sea and eastern Ukraine. Ukrainian officials have confirmed that Ukrainian Security Service (SBU) intelligence officers were on board of the Ukrainian naval vessels detained in the Kerch Strait after crossing Russia’s maritime borders. It’s an open secret the SBU cooperates with American special agencies. The US was involved in the 2014 “maidan events”. It has been reported that former Ukrainian SBU head Valentin Nalyvaychenko has a record of working for US special agencies. The CIA has a long history of intervention in Ukraine. According to Oleg Lyashko, the leader of the Radical Party and the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko secretly met then CIA Director Mike Pompeo during his visit to Ukraine in March.

Alexander Zakharchenko, the “pro-Russian” leader of self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic was killed on Aug.31. On Sept.1, the next day after the assassination, Vasyl Hrytsak, the head of the SBU, met the delegation of US Congress and Atlantic Council led by former ambassador to Ukraine John Herbst, to discuss the ways to counter “hybrid threats” coming from Russia. The republic’s leadership believes that the SBU aided by Western agencies was behind the Zakharchenko’s murder. Nobody else but John Herbst proposed to ban Russian ships coming out from the Azov Sea to enter the ports of Europe and the United States in his report published by the Atlantic Council think tank on November 21 – just four days before the Kerch Strait standoff took place. The paper urged Washington and Brussels to consider “proactively using sanctions to deter further Kremlin aggression.” In late September, Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke said a naval blockade against Russia was an option. According to him, “The United States has that ability, with our Navy, to make sure the sea lanes are open, and, if necessary, to blockade … to make sure that their energy does not go to market.”

Indeed, banning port calls would be a blow to Russia’s economy. But the idea needs an international support and the US is looking for the ways to gain it. Provoking Ukraine into pouring more fuel on the fire serves the purpose.

President Poroshenko says Russia is about to seize Ukrainian cities of Berdyansk and Mariupol, while his own country is mobilizing for war and elite troops are being sent to Donbas. The forces in the country’s east are on high alert with reinforcements coming. They are not preparing for a peace mission. It’s not a secret that Kiev is prone to military adventurism seeing it as the way to boost the President Poroshenko’s approval ratings. While “crying wolf” and pointing a finger at Russia, Ukraine is about to stage a deliberate provocation encouraged by the United States.

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  • R Trojson

    Ukraine is not threatening to invade Russia. It is Russia that has invaded Ukraine. Now Russia considers the fact that Ukraine wants their land back a provocation to invade the rest of Ukraine.

    The World must stand up to this next Hitler wannabe, Putin. Determined to build his Russian empire at the cost of millions of lives.

    • Wolfgang Wolf

      oh my god… do you believe the bullshit that you are writing?)))))

      • Tudor Miron

        He believes in shekels that he’s receiving for such posts.

        • beypuutyina

          you big ruskie liar

        • Jens Holm

          Shekels are better then Turkish lira :) According to internet Syria has no money.

          • Tudor Miron

            Surely it is better for you – it is simbolic for your kind. Also, why are you obsessed with lira?

          • Jens Holm

            You mentioned shekels Yourself. Why are You so obsessed in that.

            We use danish kroner, euros and dollars.

      • Concrete Mike

        No hes following the script like a good boy.he dont think.

      • FlorianGeyer

        Sadly the idiot does:)

      • beypuutyina

        look, russia invaded part of ukraine, this is fact. i can show you pictures from crimea with russian miltary vehicles, where the black-coated guys forgot to remove russian car identifications. according them you can exacvtly locate the garrison, from where they came.

        • Concrete Mike

          Show us…put us in our place. Dont forget to renew your photoshop liscence

          • Jens Holm

            You would never believe even if he printed it at pushed it up in Your behind closer to Your brain leftower.

          • Concrete Mike

            Now now jens, ive been nice to you…lets keep a proper decorum here. The animosity lately is toxic.

            Lets keep it cool between us.

          • Jens Holm

            You dont have to change unless You enjoy and learn facts better.

      • Jens Holm

        Thats no bullshit at all. After and even before the Zar collapse the Ukrainians uprised and uprised and its very well descriebed severel millions was killed, starved toi death as well as was deported to hunger cornfields east of Ural as well as Gulag.

        We also see it when Germans arrived. Ukrainians not even being asked would join them right away. Some were a nazi kind and many just for vey good reasond hated communists.

        But of course they just had seen Communist destroy anything, they could not take with them apart from jews. Jews were 30% in towns such as Donetsk and Kharkov.

        This is not about believe, but – again – hard, well descriebed facts in books, rapports and a lot is confirmed and even worse and visible in Russian archives.

        I thiught it was impossible to stay stupid as You in the world of internet and even Russia open for some dirty corners as well as the good ones.

        But I see the same pattern for ME history books by Country. If all was true, they hardly lived on the same planet, but they do.

        Very strange, You can write bullshit about things, You can verify by many very different sources at internet witin 10-20 minutes if You have fast fingers.

    • potcracker2588

      history lesson moron..ukraine never was a sovereign nation-state!!!!!!!!!! NEVER

      what u now have is a fake state fake nation…….it was fake when yanukowitsch was president ofcourse too….they could only survive through the russian logistical,religious,technical,advice, assistance,cooperation,support, and guidance…….

      • R Trojson

        They are sovereign according to the UN and every other country. Russia does not even claim Ukraine is not sovereign. You are embarrassing yourself.

      • beypuutyina

        istory lesson moron..ukraine never was a sovereign nation-state!!!!!!!!!! NEVER

        this is not argue. each country began at one point.

    • VeeNarian (Yerevan)

      I think it is time to stage a maidan in Washington to see what would happen if the Neo-Nazis and the Black Panthers seized government buildings and killed 20 police.
      You seem to be a huge Western supremacist and ignoranus, dear.
      Is your problem genetic or environmental? Was it the fracking or the GMO that caused your condition?
      I am sure Dr Putin will find a cure for your violent expansionism and exceptionalism.

      • You can call me Al

        Hahaha, you would get Oprah or some other ignorant Yanker. I think that the US is a dead duck regards actual decent politicians.

    • Ricky Miller

      Fuck You. If Russia had invaded Ukraine than the legal and lawful President would be back in Kiev, administrating the government. Crimea’s ethnic Russians voted to leave Ukraine and join Russia when their votes were cast aside and their national government turned out on the streets, and the thugs who did it came at Crimea. To equate Vladimir Putin with Hitler, the man who led the German assault on Russia that killed Putin’s brother makes you nothing short of scum, in my book and even less, I’m sure to tens of millions of Russian citizens who consider just such Western statements as hatred and hostility. It’s the United States in this modern era who has the blood of millions of innocent victims on it’s hands, especially in Iraq, not Russia and not Vladimir Putin.

      • R Trojson

        So the US should start arming Chechnya so they can kick Russian troops out and get Putin’s heavy boot off their necks. Great idea, bring the revolution home to Putin. What is good for the gander…

        • Concrete Mike

          Kadyrov is a wise leader beloved by the chechen people. Your idea will never work.

          I see Kadyrov Russian president in 10 years.

          • beypuutyina

            kadyrov is not wise, not beloved.

        • beypuutyina

          putin can also send weapons for black panthers…. such ar would be extremly difficult for america.

        • Anti_Globalista

          “People who live in glass houses should not trow stones.” Arming Iran with nukes, help Mexico claim what is rightfully theirs come to mind.

        • Ricky Miller

          The U.S. did that, idiot. The United States wanted and wants Russia broken into smaller and more manageable pieces. Russia long ago concluded that Chechen rebels were armed, and funded and coached by American intelligence operatives. Been there, done that. It would be far harder to do now because the border areas are more secure than in the early 90’s and Russia’s Border Guards are better equipped and trained.

          • Jens Holm

            Those conclusions was and is totally wrong. They got big support by Al Qaida as well as money from friends of them.

            Some might forget, that many 1000 Chechenians emmigrated in stead of choosin the Zars. Some also might forget, that Communists deported them twice.

            Thats were the support came from. When some say Saudi or Iranian support it says grand, grands living there in 150 years as diaspora.

            Another group there was Mafia big criminels having a lot of money there hoping for less russian control.

            And i also add, that the people there all has been soldiers in the Russian army. So they in that were equal to at least the low ranked soldiers, familiar with all small arms and highly motivated.

            Russians underetsimated them even The Chechenians planned day and night for defence and education for it as well. Putting in USSR troops being new and almost new soldiers in the front was a big mistake and the mistakes by many also say, that the Russian armies never has been as strong as they say themselves.

            They could have been given small gifts from american NGOs . Others did some small help.

            I followed Norbert Strade news all the way. No americans. Weapons as well, but of ´course there was debates about which RPGs could penetrade hard Russian steel.

        • Jens Holm

          Chechnya was a trade too. None in West defended them active apart from words and therefor Russia left Baltics in relative peace.

          In facts USA helped the Russians tracing the C`s communication systems, to knock them down faster.

          So its a no.

      • Jens Holm

        Bad or not Crimera was a part of the dividing of the collapsed USSR.

        A neutral solution could be, it should be given back to the Muslims Tatars not even today allowed to come back.

        Russia still could have nay facilities there.

    • Concrete Mike

      Hey you never answered me last week?

      What do you do for a living? How do you make your country better??

      I showed you my contribution?
      Time ti show your cards

      • Ricky Miller

        Posts like this and the White Patriot and others need to be stricken from the Boards here. There are plenty of Imperial websites for them to war pig at. I help pay for Southfront and one of the reasons I do is for the community of posters here who help me cope with my own psychopathic government and it’s b.s. information war. To have people like these guys come here and post crap like “Putin is Hitler” and “Russian pilots who bomb ISIS trucks are war criminals” and Whitey Patriots constant Russia sucks, the S400 is junk is tiresome. SOUTHFRONT, I’ve said it before and contributed anyway but my patience is really about up. These mooches don’t give you any money, any month but are permitted to post here ad nauseam, taunting those of us who do. I’d look to correct that if you value my contribution at all. I’m sure others feel the same.

        • You can call me Al

          At the risk of sounding rude, why dont you just block him as I did, then advise anyone else you see responding to him, to do the same. You could also report him, but I doubt that will do anything, so block the twat.

          • FlorianGeyer

            Yes , I blocked Trojson months ago.

          • R Trojson

            Then why are you still fixated on everything that I post. I cannot write even one line without you weighing in some how.

          • R Trojson

            Thank you so much for blocking me. Your complete surrender means a lot.

        • R Trojson

          You need to start dealing in the facts not your imaginary propaganda. How about disproving even one of my facts?

          Not sure why you and so many on this board suffer from JDS and are blinded to the truth because of your hate for the Jews.

        • Concrete Mike

          I understand how you feel. The way I.see it, the more aggressive the twats are is proportionnal to how much of our message is getting through.

          We are being targeted, because we are truth, and for the salafist imperialists, status quo must be kept , truth must be surpressed.

          I know its annoying to have these parasites infect our discussions, but we are still stonger than them.

          We are still winning, the more of the assholes show up, the closer we are to victory.

          Some of them have patterns, watch closely.

        • Jens Holm

          I partly agee and disagree with You. This is a debate site, and its very infacted by taking only ME oppinions in.

          But a lot in the world see ME as only a corner. Even muslims are only 1 nillion of 7.

          And most here dont listen much to the rest of the world having appinions supporting fx 325 mio from USA or 500 mio. in EU as long as it not a Governess official local made one.

          As written before, I often dont regocníze Erdogan has been meeting other politicians inside as well as outside Turkey on Turkish TV.

          Turks get only the good parts for Erdogan and AKP and the 50% of “other” Turks are not even there in nice close.

          More like we see 1 or more clones. You mainly show only our bad parts and even again and again predict USA will collapse next week and Western weapons from antaiqe F16s to F35 are vey bad as well as our missiles hardly can fly and certainly not hit. You even write some few S300 or S400 not even deplyed yet, can keep Israel out.

          Thats why You should have and even listen to morons like that kind of Gentlemen.

          Instead You do as too many here. Ýou make a circle having Your own hairy behinds out and debate not seing and learning from the rest of the world.

          I see, You not even know Your enemy. Thats important for any warfare and in politics.

          Very difficult to communicate with Your behinds too even You seemes to shave them now and then …

      • R Trojson

        Understand that you want to get to know me better, but I do not swing that way. Just because you showed my yours does not mean I have to show you mine.

        • Concrete Mike

          I have nothing to hide my son.

          Thats the difference between me and you.

          Let me share a song with you from my youth, my last sentence made me think about.

          Dr Dre What’s the difference

          What’s the difference between me and you?
          Back when Cube, was rolling with Lorenzo in a Benzo
          I was banging with a gang of instrumentals
          Got the pens and pencils, got down to business; but sometimes
          The business end of this shit can turn your friends against you
          But you was a real nigga, I could sense it in you
          I still remember the window of the car that you went through
          That’s fucked up, but I’ll never forget the shit we been through
          And I’mma do whatever it takes to convince you
          ‘Cause you my nigga Doc, and Eazy I’m still wit’chu
          Fuck the beef, nigga I miss you, and that’s just being real wit’chu
          You see the truth is
          Everybody wanna know how close me and Snoop is
          And who I’m still cool with
          Then I got these fake-ass niggas I first drew with
          Claiming that they non-violent, talkin like they
          Spit venom in interviews, speaking on reunions
          Move units, then talk shit and we can do this
          Until then, I ain’t even speaking your name
          Just keep my name outta yo’ mouth and we can keep it the same, nigga
          It ain’t that I’m too big to listen to the rumors
          It’s just that I’m too damn big to pay attention to ’em
          That’s the difference
          What’s the difference between me and you?
          You talk a good one – but you don’t do what you supposed to do
          I act on what I feel and never deal with emotions
          I’m used to living big dog style and straight coasting
          What’s the difference between me and you?
          You talk a good one – but you don’t do what you supposed to do
          I act on what I feel and never deal with emotions
          I’m used to living big dog style and straight coasting
          Yo I stay with it, while you try to perpetrate and play with it
          Never knew about the next level until Dre did it
          I stay committed while you motherfuckers baby-sitted
          I smash you critics like a overhand right from Riddick
          Come and get it, shitted on villains by the millions
          I be catching bitches while bitches be catching feelings
          So what the fuck am I supposed to do?
          I pop bottles and hot hollow-points at each and all of you
          A heartless bastard, high and plastered
          My style is like the reaction from too much acid
          Never come down! Pass it around if you can’t handle it
          Hang Hollywood niggas by they Soul Train laminates
          What’s the difference between me and you? (What?)
          About 5 bank accounts, 3 ounces and 2 vehicles
          Until my death, I’m Bangladesh
          I suggest you hold yo’ breath ’til ain’t none left
          Yo that’s the difference
          What’s the difference between me and you?
          You talk a good one – but you don’t do what you supposed to do
          I act on what I feel and never deal with emotions
          I’m used to living big dog style and straight coasting
          What’s the difference between me and you?
          You talk a good one – but you don’t do what you supposed to do
          I act on what I feel and never deal with emotions
          I’m used to living big dog style and straight coasting
          Aight, hold up hold up!
          Stop the beat a minute! I got something to say
          Dre, I wanna tell you this shit right now while this fucking weed is in me
          (The fuck!) I don’t know if I ever told you this, but I love you dawg
          I got your motherfucking back (right?) just know this shit
          Slim, I don’t know if you noticed it
          But I’ve had your back from day one, nigga let’s blow this bitch
          I mean it dawg, you ever need somebody offed whose throat is it?
          Well if you ever kill that Kim bitch, I’ll show you where the ocean is
          Well that’s cool, and I appreciate the offer
          But if I do decide to really murder my daughter’s momma
          I’ma sit her up in the front seat and put sunglasses on her
          And cruise around with her for seven hours through California
          And have her wavin at people (Hi!) Then drop her off on the corner
          At the police station and drive off honkin the horn for her
          Raw dawg, get your arm gnawed off
          Drop the sawed off and beat you wit the piece it was sawed off of
          Fuck blood, I wanna see some lungs coughed up
          Get shot up in the hot tub ’til the bubbles pop up
          And they nose and cough snot up, mucus in hot water
          That’s for trying to talk like “The Chronic” was lost product
          That’s for even thinking of having them thoughts thought up
          You better show some respect whenever the Doc’s brought up
          So what’s the difference between us? We can start at the penis
          Or we can scream, “I Just Don’t Give a Fuck, ” and see who means it!
          What’s the difference between me and you?
          You talk a good one – but you don’t do what you supposed to do
          I act on what I feel and never deal with emotions
          I’m used to living big dog style and straight coasting
          What’s the difference between me and you?
          You talk a good one – but you don’t do what you supposed to do
          I act on what I feel and never deal with emotions
          I’m used to living big dog style and straight coasting, what’s the difference between me

          I like rappers…they tell it like it is.
          Cheers

      • beypuutyina

        maybe ou are blocked, you idiot!

        • Concrete Mike

          Da fuck you talking about son?

          Forgot to switch accounts maybe?

      • Anti_Globalista

        Trolls are best to be ignored.

  • Fred Summers

    OFFICIAL PARTIAL DISCLOSURE FROM RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTER BELOW:

    (First a reminder for those who need it – There is speculation that
    a plot to bomb the Crimea Bridge was thwarted in the Black Sea by a well
    planned Russian Security operation involving Special Forces aboard Coastguard
    vessels and supported by ground attack jets, helicopter gunships, and a
    Corvette armed with missiles and torpedos, and air superiority cover provided by SU30 jets).

    When reading the transcript below, try to READ BETWEEN THE PROVERBIAL LINES, and
    know that in Politics some things do not need to explicitly said or spelled out.

    (This is an official English Translation of an official
    interview dated 02-12-18, and is copied from transcript publically
    posted on the official Russian Foreign Ministry website for all to see,
    link below).

    Extract:

    Question:
    Have you managed to
    bring across to our European partners the truth on what really happened
    in the Black Sea, and not in the Sea of Azov, as they usually write?
    Have they finally
    heard our position?

    Sergey Lavrov:
    I think they could not but hear it because President Vladimir Putin, while meeting with
    President of France Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel,
    personally explained “in lay terms” how all this happened, how the provocation
    had been planned and how its execution was attempted, as well as how
    responsibly the Russian border guards performed their functions trying to
    prevent any undesirable incidents. Regrettably, the [Ukrainian] agents and
    provocateurs, and the provocation carried out by two craft and a tug, was
    controlled by two Ukrainian Security Service officers who did their best to
    fulfil the order………………..President Putin personally told his
    interlocutors about this. I did not hear from them a response that would be
    based on different facts.

    Question:
    Presidents Putin and Trump have held a short meeting after all. As for US Secretary of State Mike
    Pompeo, was he evading you, or did he have to meet with you?

    Sergey Lavrov:

    Of course, I did not pursue him, and he did not try to meet with me. To be quite frank, I do not
    even know if he is here, because I have not seen the full US delegation. US
    National Security Adviser John Bolton said in a conversation with Presidential
    Aide Yury Ushakov, who deals with political matters, that they [the US
    administration] would like to resume and normalise our dialogue. We are ready
    to do this as soon as our colleagues are.

    Question:

    Do you think there is a connection between the provocation in the Kerch Strait and the US
    cancellation of the planned meeting between our presidents?

    Sergey Lavrov:

    I don’t believe in the conspiracy theories. However, there have been too many coincidences,
    when a provocation that takes place ahead of a major event is used for fanning
    hysteria over sanctions. British Prime Minister Theresa May has demanded that
    Brussels further worsen its Russia policy, even though Britain has almost
    exited the EU.
    We know our partners very well, and we have masses of questions about the adequacy of their approach to serious problems.
    There are very serious and very real threats. The fight against these
    challenges cannot be improved by making sacrifices to immediate geopolitical
    considerations.

    Question:

    When will President Putin and President Trump hold a full-scale meeting after all?

    Sergey Lavrov:

    I won’t even try to guess.

    FIN
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation

    OFFICIALLINK:http://www.mid.ru/en/press_

  • Bob Starsky

    Actually Poroshenko is right. Russia has the same state policy like

    stalinist soviet union. There is no change in it! If Russia was peaceful
    they would ditch all this expansionist stalinist crap but instead they
    worship it.

    Why leningrad and stalingrad are not named after bolsheviks anymore but
    in the west, outside core Russia there is still stalinist system(names)
    applied? It is clear sign that in the west bolshevik expanstion is the
    policy.

    Also Russia dont fulfill polish bolshevik peace treaty from 100 years
    which means they still consider central europe belonging to bolsheviks.
    Ofc I intensify it for the sake of conversation but you must agree it is
    strange. Meanwhile Putin makes peace treaty with Japan and SCO!

    Russia making peace on east but denying peace in the west and keeping
    stalin era order. I want to believe Russia is peaceful but they are
    making it very very hard. Also all that crap from Moscow being furious
    Poles remove stalinist monuments. Explain this plz.

    Also look at Balts who were for centuries oppressed by
    crusaders,germans, bolsheviks. Now all are gone but there is rebranded
    CCCP as oppressors. Why Russia dont want to finally let Balts be Balts?
    Russia FORCE balts/ukr/pl together same like usa force iran/tr/russia
    together.

    • Wolfgang Wolf

      where do you live? parallel universe?)))))) or just stupid?

      • Bob Starsky

        where am i wrong? u cant say cuz im right

        • Ricky Miller

          Let me count the ways you are wrong. How about NATO expanding East after Russia was promised it would not. That’s not Russian expansionism. How about U.S. and NATO violations of the Russia/NATO agreement not to station permanent outside forces in the Baltic States and Poland? Sure, the units change but the basing is permanent, and on Russia’s borders. How about overthrowing the lawful and legally elected government in Ukraine, disenfranchising ethnic Russian voters and allowing thugs to threaten and batter them right on the street? That’s not Russian expansion. How about withdrawing from the ABM treaty? Or putting Bioweapons Labs in areas near the Russian borders? That’s not RUSSIAN expansionism. My favorite? The U.S. failing to uphold it’s end of the plutonium agreement, a signed treaty. Russia reprocessed a large volume of plutonium and gave the uranium output to the West as nuclear fuel, meaning building new nuclear weapons would take longer. The U.S. was required to do the same but did not, saying that Congress wouldn’t fund the reactor required. How is that Russian expansionism? How about the endless invasions and regime change operations instigated by the West and in violation of the UN Charter. I suppose, somehow in your mind those treaty violations are Russia’s fault? STFU…

          • Bob Starsky

            Why should i care about NATO? We are talking about Russia and Ukraine/Poland/Balts. Also why any promise to Russia should be kept if Russia dont keep their own promises like e.g. fulfilling treaty of Riga! Poland has no border with Russia. Krolewiec is not russian but Baltic. There is not a single law act in which Poland recognize Krolewiec as Russia.

            Proshenko being nazi illegal regime doesnt make automatically Russia less evil.
            Dont bring USA into it! Answer for questions related to Poland and Balts why Russia is so aggressive against them andy why deny to make peace?

          • Ricky Miller

            Fuck Off. American War Crime War Pig stooge. Standing up for herself doesn”t make Russia evil. It’s the USA who has bases everywhere and is bossing people around. The kid who stands up for himself on the playground isn’t in the wrong even if he breaks the rules sometimes and gets suspended for fighting.

          • Jens Holm

            Thats right.Go away Yorself. The many old eastern European states are not Sovjet/Tzar as well as German colonies.

            You didnt liberate them in 1945, but took back them not even learned as the only one loosing WW1 three times !

            How can any trust anyone doing like that inless they like Germans or Japan are repatriatet to something else then som small nepotistic top should be Mr Know All.

            This is not about USA. As dane its my backyard having traditions in trade war and peace all around the Baltics since before the Viking age. We even made them Christians by coordinated crusades with Swedes and Germans. Fx Tallin means the town of danes.

            There was not a single slave there but only a big moscow mixted up with mongols.

            If anything, they are our friends and among many danes today has 200 soldiers and at least 2 F16 as help for the Estonians. And why are they poor.

            Thats because of someone like You and marx and Engells. And You collapsed, didnt You. Or did CIA and FBI do it ?

            Those people has all rights to try something else after own choise. And as little danes, I also support small countries in one hand decide themselves and in the other in stead of being an elephant with no legs and Wellingtons vote for – VOTE – alliances as something in the middle of that.

            Thats why we are in EU now. And You made Nato because You had Stalin. Som great murderingen Father. And why have we seen. How many times took it to remove him from the front of Yours – even dead many years ago.

            Is that peace. Do any believe in being safe unarmed and tryed to be forced into the unproductive world of Russia. Of course those countries has to take the good part of us, as well as I hope, they wont copy our bad attitudes.

            And Yes, those new countries are like Your kids. If they cant defend themselves, they also call for help.

            The USSR leftovers were the agressive ones after a short period of notmalisation. Russia has not cleaned their own house at all, just new hats and fine names as extra corrupt Oligarcs.

            Thats what I and a lot of west see.

          • Bob Starsky

            Im talking about Poland and Balts! We dont give a fuck about usa! Answer why do you demand russia to atack their victims Balts and Poles!

        • VeeNarian (Yerevan)

          Look here, Bruv, let me translate for you:
          “u cant say cuz im right” should read:
          “You can’t say because I’m right.”
          Ignorant text-speak will be your undoing, dear!
          How old are you? Why did mummy let you loose on the keyboard???

          • Jens Holm

            I a m so tired about systematic time wasters as You.

            We are at least trying to communicate. It doesnt matter to me which spelling is used or the Arabian Sea is the Persian Gulf or not.

            “Cuz” is american english and replace many long unneeded versions 4You. 325 milion americans are using it as well as many others in dayli spoken language as well as in common dayli written at home as well as in debates and by mails and that.

            This is no Forum for lawers, doctors and english rudimentary teachers in basic spelled english at all.

            So I write do not, dont and don`s as I wish.

        • Concrete Mike

          Libya is russias fault too right?

          Go drink kool aid will ya

          • Jens Holm

            Libya is a fault. As many others, they should be many more and smaller ones as well as parts from others should be added to another country having inhabitants as themselves.

            But for Libya Italiens killed a lot to “unite”. And after that Gadaffi did exact the same killing until there was no more opposition.

            Libya today should be 3-4 countries. Pakistan should be 3 and 1 or 2 of them being bigger having parts od Afghanistan.

            North in Afghanistan people are divided by a river, because as in Syria its a landmark as well as the railroad by Kobane. No differense of the mainly kurds there.

            Usbekes should be unitid, Turkemenians should, Tadjiks should. Nigeria as a minimum should be 3 countries and the northern parts in 1 divided by big autonomes. Today Nigeria is an everlasting fighting into too small units – And its so big,that it cant be ruled from one Capitol (as they are).

            I am fine Libya is chaos seen from distance apart from emmigrant transportation. In a period we just take oil from somewhere else. Gadaffi is out = almost 100%.

            making other tradition there must be learned by seeing old “wargames”. Omæy tic tac toe is winner, because all win, if none do,

    • Tudor Miron

      Bobby :) you should have taken you meds in time. Reading your post I’m worried that you might hurt yourself. Someone, call the ambulance! Bobby needs help before it is too late.

      • beypuutyina

        howdy, stickerman?

      • Bob Starsky

        ofc zero arguments, just insults. how many cents for your “comment”?

        • Tudor Miron

          Bobby, I would not waist my time giving arguments relating to totally insane post. That would involve going down to your level and I don’t feel comfortable there. But your ental condition is truely worrying.

          • Jens Holm

            As western I agree a lot. You dont see our version well. If we were as You write and are learned to think, we have collpased long time ago.

            The opinions of Starsky is the normal ones, where I am. Its a mistake to not trust Russia having those many countries as colonies before WW1 and again from 1945.

            I dint think so. We could have behaved a bit more flexible and avoided the sparepart robbings from Your ancient Kombinates, sovkoses, Kolkoses and Gulag, but not in the world can trust You as You were and are.

            Even Bornholm was bombarded by Russia. And we do support people ddecide themselves being small countries and in alliances chosen by ourselves too. That includes EU and Nato.

            Should those Eastern Europens after being plundered since 1945 wish re-integration with a collapsed economy by at Father Russia no majority in any part has chosen.

            They did not. They called form help and partly has it. Russia never should spread the dirty fingers of them out here in any kind of dominance. Never.

          • Tudor Miron

            “We could have behaved a bit more flexible”(c) We? You and Bobby?

          • Jens Holm

            More open including Russia itself much more.

            I think the choises were made, because we got so many millions as neighbors and could not help all.

            The systems were like Mars to us in all levels. Fx Russia still have a tax system to pay for its expenses. They dont understand it.

            We see many pay no tax for years even they ask for stabile payments every year or month. Suddenly the taxcollacters comes and so many are plundered down to thir last shirt even in vintertime.

            MEs and muslims are the same kind of not knowing. They dont get our high tax and we get bac´k. They think its as often at them, that goverment officials and others take all the money.

            But we use it free education, free medical care, good pension for all after 67. And it works mainly well. People are motivated to pay high tax, when they see they are helped themselves and the rich ones pay at least a little more – given to the poor.

            I speak for myself.

    • VeeNarian (Yerevan)

      Another massive ignoranus exposes himself, Doh! The Soviet Union disbanded in 1991. I blame the US education system or NED brainwashing for your ignorance, dear.

      • Bob Starsky

        yes so why the fuck russia still call Krolewiec KALININgrad?! Why there are still russian military in Krolewiec? why russia use stalinist symbols? why russia deny to fulfill treaty of riga?! answer me! ofc u cant cuz russia is a warmonger, not better than usa

        • VeeNarian (Yerevan)

          It is up to the Russians what they call Kaliningrad because that place is RUSSIAN, liberated from the Nazis by the blood of thousands of soldiers from SOVIET Russia and other SOVIET states during WW2.
          This is history, dear, get over it.
          In fact, a third of Poland used to be part of Germany before WW2, and was kindly donated to Poland by the conquerer Stalin.
          Perhaps this should be returned to Germany?
          Sadly, modern Poland seems to be a total slave state to the US. thoroughly brainwashed by the NED and the CIA.
          It is time for Poland and RF to make peace or they will start WW3. The US will NOT fight Polish battles to restore the Polish Empire which ruled Moscow. The US prefers Neo-Nazis and Islamic head-choppers to fight its battles in Ukraine and Syria: that is how they work with so called “allies”.
          I suggest the same peace process between Pakistan and my own birth country of India,
          IT IS TIME TO GROW UP, CHILDREN!

          • Bob Starsky

            in ww2 russians were a minority in soviet union so fucking kazachs has the same claims in this aspects what russian. There were also 3 armies of poles and dozens of flight squadrons liberating Krolewiec so Poles have also right in this aspect but aadd to this PL/LT commonwealth historical past while russia has absolutely zero historical claims. educate yourself u moron yerevan.
            btw. if you want greater poland “return” to germany then 1/3 european russia should be “returned” to Poland and Lithuania as we have conquered russia.

          • VeeNarian (Yerevan)

            Read WW2 history not Polish fairy stories. Kaliningrad was part of Soviet Russia and so today is part of RF. Don’t be so greedy: there are no Poles in Kaliningrad just as there no more Russians in Poland. Get over it, dear!

        • Jens Holm

          Its a world decission. All inhabitants were killed.All. And why should it be polish or lituanian.

          If anything it should be German as Koenigsberg being capitol for Preussen.

          Why dont You use demografic maps during times. Poland was mainly an inland state names Kingdom Poland or Congress Poland.

          But of course I have seen the argumatations for it, where Poles for the first and only times named Jews as Poles.

          It was German. Poles were not there and never by religion as well as upperclass leaned to devellop anything there and many othrer places. You have to go up to Pilsutsky or something before You have a Polans improving itself as a real state.

          Along the polish coast of today there hardly ever was any poles. The language always has been some baltic strange mixes from germans, Swedes, Danes with the locals.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nigsberg

          • Bob Starsky

            It should be PL/LT because of PL/LT commonwealth stopping Holy Roman (yes, Holy Roman, not german!) crusades and saved last Prussians. Krolewiec should be Prussian (original Balt Prussian). Situation similar like in Crimea with where original inhabitants were destroyed) so the 2nd most reliable state should take over in this case PL/LT commonwealth which is today Poland and Lithuania. Germans have zero right for it. If we look as conquerors evil “right” then it should be owned by Vatican as they were doing crusaders. The perfect case would be a demilitarized free city state of Kingstown protected by UN with pl/lt/ger/eng/ru as state languages.

          • Jens Holm

            You are totally upside down in this. Germans and danes Christianized the polish coast incl. Lituania.

            At that time all germans, danes(Tallin 1219) and swedes were catholics and protestants was not invented(Fx Martin Luther died 1546.

            Your Poles and Lituanian storries partly are true, byt they were for shorter periods and most of the time ir was Congress- and King Poland having no coastline.

            “Your liberating preussens or whatever it communist or catholic propaganda.

            The people there was runned by Feudal Masters, and they didnt care if it was poles. Lituanians, germans, Tjeks or hungarians. Well Russians too in Belarus and Galizia. That same goes for Your many Jews.

            So Your pictures during time is very very one eyed in this as big parts of the movies are gone.

      • Jens Holm

        Well, remember great parts of the world for knowing, as well as the open Sovjet secret Archives in Russia as well as fx (well known here) DRR.

        You seemes to have ignores many 100 meters of books and rapports about it. Very strange it even possible. You probatly can get some of them in a North Korean version as well.

    • Concrete Mike

      What utter BS!!!

      Stalinist monument???

      Its not about stalin you dumb fucker, its about the soviet citizens paying the ultimate price to shove the german nazis back to germany.

      This has nothing to do with stalin, its to recognize the sacrifice of regular soviet guys fighting nazis.

      How can you politicize something as sacres as war memorials?

      How clueless about historyare you?

      Shame on you!

      • You can call me Al

        Thank God you said it, before me.

      • Bob Starsky

        u need to educate yourself. russia was first victim of bolshevism and no one murdered more russians than bolsheviks(germany sponsored btw). start there, i will not waste more time for educating you.

        • Concrete Mike

          Thats your rebuke….shits weak man. I rebuked you while i was working.

          Those war memorials have nothing to do with bolsheviks. Thats a weak deflection attempt thats is stopped with EASE!

          And who sponsored germany?jp morgan bush and rockefeller.

          You cant teach an old dog new tricks

          • Jens Holm

            Seemes You are hard censured.

          • Concrete Mike

            Censured = silenced

            Im still here talking am I?

      • Bob Starsky

        there are memorials for ww2 victims in eastern euriope (poland, hungray, czechia, balts) without stalinist symbols. damn, these countries are bolshevik free so it is possible but russia worship stalin and his crimes and deny to apologize and pay for their crimes.

        • Concrete Mike

          It matters not!! Lots of countries have other countries war memorials in them. Dont poloticise the dead!! Show some respect.

          Its not about bolshevism its about men. These monuments are not stalin monuments, there red army monuments to commemorate those men who died fighting Germany.

          Tell your script writers their stupid and they nees to try harder.

          Or fuck it never mind this shit…bring seinfeld back

    • grumpy_carpenter

      Why?

      The same reason the USA’s strategy is the same as the British Empire’s was. The sea has always been the primary human trade route. Control the seas and you control the economies of the world. Both the USA and Britain are island nations (the USA is essentially an island in reference to the Eurasian land mass). Defend the seas and no one can attack you.

      Russia is a land power at the heart of Eurasia. They rely on land based trade, and can only really be invaded via land routes so their primary concern is the security around their border lands. The countries bordering will always be a security / trade concern for the Russians.

      It doesn’t matter who is the dominant power in Russia, western Europe or the Middle East, the Baltic States, Ukraine and the Balkans have always been pawns and a battleground for larger powers from the west, Russia or Middle East, they are today and they will be for the rest of human history. It’s an unfortunate geographical fact.

      Right now the choice is living with the devil you know, Russia vs the devil you don’t know, the USA / UK. You believe the USA / UK want Poles to be free and independent but you don’t have a long history with these characters.

      They do want you to fight the Russians and they will give you all the rope you need but when it comes time to fight and die it’s going to be Poles and Russians who suffer. The USA / UK / EU will send you all the weapons you need (at a price of course) and even send in the air force (as long as the Russian air defences prove to be safe to work around) but they won’t fight and die for Poland and the moment it’s no longer in their interests to throw money at your war with no chance of a return you’ll be thrown under the bus.

      Get your head out of the sand and look around. The USA and Britain love wars but never to the point where they risk war on their territory or allow their soldiers to be killed in great numbers. That’s what the Poles, Ukrainians and Balts are for.

      • Bob Starsky

        Yes, Russia is the same warmonger like west and both want destruction of central europe. Looks like russian gov is usraeli agent as they want war with Poland to fuck themselves and Poles again for another 100 years. This is why Russia is PRIMARY enemy for Poland. We have no doubts nato is not much better but better to be slave of rich evil master than slave of poor and more evil master. Ofc dumb westerners and russiand dont understand that POLAND HAS NO CHOICE but to be usraeli slave and all that because of Russian warmongering. We Poles know we are fucked but by serving usrael we are sure Russia will be fucked too. Also this is why we support ukraine as ukraine-russia war is the best scenario for Poland as both polish enemies fight each other.

        • grumpy_carpenter

          You realize that the US strategy is to make Russia back down without a fight. From their perspective they believe they managed to destroy the Soviet Union by bankrupting them with an arms race. They believe that with a little pressure the same result will occur.

          I believe that this time is different. This time NATO doesn’t end at the German border it’s right at the Russian border. They are going to fight this time.

          The Russians are at a strategic disadvantage …. they are out numbered and materially far poorer than NATO. The only advantage they have is in their missile forces. The only way to use that to their advantage is to strike first and make it massive.

          It’s one thing not to trust the Russians …. they border my country and I don’t trust them either. it’s another to sacrifice your country and loved ones to be ground zero in a war so western corporations can have the world to themselves. That’s what this is really all about …. Poles only value to the USA et al is as consumers or cannon fodder. You’re just another ‘shithole country’ to the Yanks.

      • Jens Holm

        Nice try, Not bad … Sober. Thaks.

    • FlorianGeyer

      You forget, or are ignorant of, the Lithuanian Empire and the Polish Empire that once controlled much of Russia and Belarus.

      • Bob Starsky

        Yes, PL-LT conquered Russia but after pillaging it we dumped burned to the ground moscow.

        • Concrete Mike

          “We”???

          • FlorianGeyer

            That puzzled me as well Mike.

            What part of the ‘We,We ‘ is he I wonder?

          • Concrete Mike

            Hehe…his answer.. silence of course. Surprise surprise

        • FlorianGeyer

          And are you proud of that ?

      • Jens Holm

        Some might add, that before that Moscows took the Kiev state with Novgerod. Kievs didnt ask for that. It was during war.

        So who took Poles/Lituanians from ?

        In stead of a state it has been a buffer eaten from both sides and by that not strong enough to be independent.

        We see the same for Poland being eliminated as state after gradualy dividing in 3 and after mainly own liberation again divided by Germans and russians, taken 100% of Germany, taken by Russians changing its border taking something themselves by giving them Preussia parts and harbours given old german land polish names like old Pomeran big Town into Gdansk.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gda%C5%84sk

        • FlorianGeyer

          The fortune of nations has always ebbed and flowed for far too many reasons to illustrate here.

          Even Denmark had power at times in history, but has NONE today.

          Tomorrow perhaps and only history can record that.

          I did smile about the Danish intent to create an Island prison for Muslims :)
          I suppose that Danish prisons should have their Muslim Quotas as well Jens ?

          http://skepticism-images.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/images/jreviews/Auschwitz-Arrival-1944.05-a.jpg

          • Jens Holm

            Almost all are very hard crminels, which after years og jail should go home to themselves.

            They cant, they wont – and they again do hard crime again and again.

            Som few are different.

            Half of our criminals are Muslims even they are less then 10% of the population. Same for safehouses for vomen.

            The 90% normal muslims being not criminel hate them too. Many does, because too many old danes the see crime and base it on skincolor. Even poor and strange for us in religios attitudes, they dont become criminels.

            95% of Old danes are no criminels in the same way as muslims.

            I dont support an Island like that and detension centers or KZ camps. Actually You picture is totally wrong too. Its well known danes transported almost all jews to Sweden.

            I allow me say, that we dont kill people and some are not send “home” because several countries has death penaltry. The Island i not meat as Arbeit mact Frei.

            But it would be nice, if You and others had better proposals for hard criminal foreigners after normal jail…Should we give them 10 years more or what.

            And we do have economic as well as military power being nr 35 in GDP as well as being in top pr inhabitant.

          • FlorianGeyer

            ” if You and others had better proposals for hard criminal foreigners after normal jail”

            Mmm, how about transporting the criminal Muslims to safety Sweden then Jens :)

          • Jens Holm

            They have the situation having hard criminels incl,. sexabusers, which has taken their years of punishment in jail.

            They go on with their crime, but we cant send them “home” to thier “own” jurisdiction.

        • Bob Starsky

          pomeriania has been histgorically slavic. not a sign of germans there. some german or rather catholic elements were put there with holy roman crusaders and holy roman empire wasnt german but multietnical, in big part slavic too. btw. german is a fake nation, invented by hitler. there were alwasy dozens of different ethnicities in reich and the whole language is christian construct https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/feccd0dba1109c16be67e57e2bfb3db391d1e7deefe6538cebae7cab1d46e055.jpg

    • John Whitehot

      you’re so gone.

    • beypuutyina

      Also Russia dont fulfill polish bolshevik peace treaty from 100 years

      oh poor boy, ibetween was a new treaty in 1945. did you asleep?

      • Bob Starsky

        u need to educate yourself as there was no such thing. show me signature of poland, oh u cant cuz poland has signed nothing.

        • Concrete Mike

          Solomon here is our oldest most beloved troll, leave him the fuck alone please.

        • beypuutyina

          ook, i know good the russian and polish history. i know exactly, that in the eary beginning the poles were the agressors. but… awyas the experiences of actual generation are important for decision making.

          • Bob Starsky

            how do you know that?! where can i read about ancient slavic history?! btw. when there was polish kingdom there was not even such a thing like russia, there were only forest mongolian slaves. Poles and Ruthenians stopped mongols and saved russians.

          • beypuutyina

            i will check for some literature in english for you.

            sure, in early beginning russians were under boots of tatars, but already in that time were hunted by poles. later, during moscowian principality were systematically attacked by poles. they also burned moscow. for nothing. boredom.

            and at day D, russiand hit back. since that tome the poles are in a huff…

          • beypuutyina

            btw., ruthenian = russian. in their anguage they are rusin (rus = russian). ruthenian is western style of name. from austrian monarchy.

  • USA is to weak to confront Russia on it’s borders.
    So they will tell Ukraine, that it is a good idea try it on their own.
    The same story like Georgia and Abchazia war.
    If Ukraine go war with Russia, it would last two or three weeks and game is over.
    The only output is decisive Russian victory or full WW3 escalation.

    I suppose Rotschilds want second one scenario.

    You know, this overpopulation and environment conferences, economy recession and debt and all time high bubble on markets needs permanent fix.

    War fix everything. Especially nuclear one.

    • Per/Norway

      2-3 weeks? it would not last 5 days, porkys` nazi terrorist scum that survives will only be able to do small terror attacks after that.

    • occupybacon

      “USA is too weak to confront Russia on it’s borders.
      So they will tell Ukraine, that it is a good idea try it on their own.”

      Here, fixed it for you:

      “Russia is too weak to confront Ukraine on it’s borders.
      So they will hire mercs, that it is a good idea try it on their own.”

    • Jens Holm

      Russia anytime is the agressor wanting to dominate its colonies again by threats of the worst kind.

      I admit Ukrainiens as the many Russian oligarks are greedy too.

      Should East Europe join a still collapased Sovjet economy or find something better comming from economic madness Marx Engells in a centralised context by chosen nepotists ?

      And the rest. Well ….

      • Nod

        you babble more stupidity…

        • Jens Holm

          Obvios You only has learned one side of it.

          Tzar Russia took it before WW1. USSR took it all the way to Berlin and kept it from 1945.

          So Russia by that have colnial rights there. No they have not. Of course those people has to decide themselves and try something different from the collapsed USSR.

          • Nod

            There is no side.

            There was a referendum. Crimean’s overwhelmingly chose Russia over IMF debt and NATO exploitation. End of story.

            As to the Ukraine, the west overthrew the elected government, and imposed a Nazi government on the Ukraine. That is fact.

          • Jens Holm

            Crimea as was part of a big trade incl. incl. fx atmic bombs. You might think it right or wrong, but thats the fact.

            Ypu version of Nazis of look a likes weemes correct. But the 2 other alternatives was the same very dirty mafia kaliber – just in a old communist also corrupt and collapsed USSR context.

            I prefare none of it. I have had hoped getting out could give a start in stead of greeedy non devellopment in Russian Mafia design, which You Mafiosas named nazis also is.

            Uf not crimea then something else. Krusthoff as USSR choose ro give not Kiev, and it was exact the same thing for those Russian Counties, where I would prefare all voted about it, but also with compensation.

            If

          • Nod

            “”You might think it right or wrong, but that’s the fact.”

            prove it dimwit…

            you babble more bullshit. And another great American had something to say about your type…

            There is a cult of ignorance ….., and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

            ☛ Newsweek: “A Cult of Ignorance” by Isaac Asimov, January 21, 1980, p. 19.

    • Nod

      It might however, be used by the west as an excuse to escalate…

  • Per/Norway

    how retarded is this writer? the blockade of Russian ships would literally be a declaration of war, “international” support would make no difference at all.

    • FlorianGeyer

      If there has to be WW3, Russia should immediately destroy America and Israel and by so doing free those Americans who survive. Take out the East and West coasts first, plus the missile silos, military bases etc etc.

      The people of Europe would then remove the Zionist despots who rule over them.

      • beypuutyina

        russia should free own citizens. it can begin with free internet :P

        • FlorianGeyer

          Russian citizens have more political freedom than those in the West

          I agree that Westerners have more freedom to fuck children, change genders and engage in mindless interests. Plus of course ,to borrow money at interest to buy a roof over their heads at an inflated price.

          • beypuutyina

            sure not. but go there. ive 1 year in yekaterinburg and ou wil see.

            until today ruskies go west and not westerm people to russia. ;)

        • Nod

          who has free internet ? We are already censored everywhere by anyone with the idea they know better.. Everything you write is recorded and stored, wherever you write it. Our internet is a tool directed by corporations, and or our searches are modified to preclude what they call as “fake news” from legitimate thinkers…

          NO one is free dimwit, we are ALL debtor slaves, and the globalists want it all.

          • beypuutyina

            in your country is free internet. in russia is forbidden Tor, VPN, is total control of IP addresses.

          • Nod

            SO you tell me I am free on the internet, when I know for fact my freedom is limited by restrictions.

            difference of control is irrelevant. freedom is freedom.

            And as far as I am concerned, it is wise for China and Russia to monitor and control the internet, because my masters will use it to sow discontent and breed terrorists.

            Even in Russia, there are many people too stupid to see the diseased mentality my masters sell as democracy.

      • Per/Norway

        sounds like a plan to me.

  • Smaug

    This classifies as war propaganda, it presents as fact that Ukraine and the US has hostile intent and the logical reaction is to act with hostile intent. Is the author oblivious to the fact that he’s as guilty of creating any war that results as anyone else?

    • Daniel Miller

      well after all of the shit the Ukrainian govt and US govt have done yea they are with hostile intent.

    • Concrete Mike

      The US has hostile intent, its in their full spectrum dominance doctrine…how much more hostile does it take to get through to you??

      • Bob Starsky

        USA hostility doesnt mean Russia isnt hostile too. Look like usa and russia and uk were in allaiance against Poles, Balts and Fiins and even Iranians! Are you russian agent you defend putin regime so much?

        • Concrete Mike

          No but your an american agent…all do is inaccurate projections like a dumb 19 year old that dont know anything.

          Im not a russian agent. Im an objective canadian that sees the west as it is. Imperialists. Where the name of the game is to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Why are you helping the imperialists by spreading your russia hatred bs??

          Dont ask me about russians i dont know them, i know westerners though. My parents generation is so fascist its laughable..
          Later salafist imperialist tool.

          • Bob Starsky

            dude, we are talking about russia and ruthenians/poles/balts. this topic is not about west but about central and eastern europe

          • Concrete Mike

            It is about western expansionism that you guys paint as russian aggresion.

            You will not fool me, Libya was the last straw.

            Russia would benefit nothing from invading balts/poland absolutely nothing. Putin and the entire russian govrnment and people feel the same way.

            Its only you guys barking russia this russia that. Pathetic juvenile projections is all it is.

            Im old enough to know better.

            You will learn in your 30ies.

            Until then stay low.

          • Nod

            It astounds me the ignorance that our western “population ” presumes as fact. Asimov spoke of this phenomena.

          • Bob Starsky

            you are childish. like a kid you think world is black and white so if usa is bad then russia must be good! in your 40s maybe you will understand that both usa and russia are evil and the only good guys are Poles.

          • Nod

            there is no good an evil dimwit. They are subjective labels. Useless.

            What we have is an imperialist NATO. And a non imperialist Russia.

            That is the fact of the matter. Now the idiocy comes when a fool tries to pretend otherwise.

          • Nod

            Everything that happens in Europe happens pursuant globalist power. Same as in the US gulag.

            DO you not realize the the EU is NOT a democracy, it is run from Brussels by unelected bitches of the banksters.

            Where have you been Bob?

            And because I think, and I do not drink fluoride, and I have come to this easily made conclusions pursuant easily avaILABLE FACT AND testimony does not mean I musty be Russian.

            I am also a Canadian, and the Canadian government which pretends to represent me disgust me almost as much as the US government does.

            Globalist rule, and they do so with a fraudulent monetary system. Once you figure that out Bob, your eyes will be open to how and why we have owners.

            And you cannot name ONE instance since the wall came down where Russia has invaded anyone.

            Yet we have invaded over 70 countries, murdered over 25 million people since the last war.

            And Putin is simply too much for the yanks to handle. And that is the only reason I applaud him. Otherwise, he is a pimp for the rich in Russia who resist globalism.. And the fight around Russia is only about bringing Russia into the globalist empire.

            And no worries, I think the globalist will prevail. Although many of us are going to have to die at their hands, for them to do so.

          • Nod

            Have a read Bob… Or not. It doesn’t really matter. I got to wonder,. though, have you no self respect to be so easily led about with bullshit and bunk ?

            http://www.voltairenet.org/article204208.html

            How the West eats its children
            by Thierry Meyssan

    • R Trojson

      Putin is just using the big lie same as Hitler.

      “Invasion and Partition of Poland. On September 1, 1939, Germany invaded Poland. To justify the action, Nazi propagandists falsely claimed that Poland had been planning, with its allies Great Britain and France, to encircle and dismember Germany and that Poles were persecuting ethnic Germans.”

      Sound familiar?

      • Concrete Mike

        What is putins lie exacly?
        What is your source on the claim of dismembering germany?

        There are many big lies about ww2, dont open a door you cant close.

        • R Trojson

          So you believe Germany was justified in invading Poland during WW2. You are starting to sound like a Nazi to me.

          Do you also hate the Jews?

          Guess you are all for Putin taking Poland to rebuild his USSR Empire?

          • Concrete Mike

            What??? Stop projecting please. I never claimed germany was justified to invade poland. Because they were NOT!

            I dont hate jews. I talked about that today, look at my other comments today, you know how.

            Putin will stay out of poland. Putin has enough problems in russia, he will stay there.

          • PZIVJ

            You can not reason with those that only want to troll this site.
            Seems they are coming out of the woodwork as of late. :/

          • Concrete Mike

            A.new batch of parasite eggs have hatched …they come and go though.

            We are still here.

          • R Trojson

            Yes, they can only hide the truth for so long.

          • R Trojson

            Good point. How do we get all those Jew hating trolls to focus instead on the South Front article instead of their own sickness?

            Have never read even one SF article on hating Jews yet every article has comments that attempt to tie it to exactly that subject.

          • PZIVJ

            Your claim that ISIS in Al Safa was aided is complete BS going on for weeks now. It was some food and water to get the hostages released. Because it was big time news in Damascus, the Syrian army paid the price for politics. :/

          • Nod

            you are paranoid that the world is gonna figure out you that Zionist Israel is a genocidal murderous cabal of globalist DOUCHES…

            too late, it is already common knowledge….blaming Jews for Zionist politics would be pretty darn stupid huh. Kind of like blaming Americans for politics which owns them.

            Seems the only people stupid enough to buy into that foolishness are the racist, murderous, Zionists.

          • 1691

            Don’t waste your time.with them. I don’t read their junk. Skip some names. They are not worth a second of my time.

          • Bob Starsky

            But you justify russian invasion on Poland in 1939 and Balts and Finns in 1940? Dude, you are worse than nazis! At least with nazis when you cooperated you were ok. With Russia even if you surrender they will murder you, rob your family and sent your kids to die in Gulag like russians did with Poles in Katyn massacre and Gulag.

          • Nod

            you babble stupidity, aimed at morons. None here….head on over to the Disney channel dimwit…

          • Concrete Mike

            I hate the current israeli governments policies though!

          • R Trojson

            Not sure what that government’s policies are? Maybe we should ask SF for an article on one of their controversial policies so we have something to discuss. Certainly does not belong in this Ukraine discussion.

          • Nod

            Their government policies are genocide, racism, hubris, and mass expulsion from home for Palestinians.. They also run an open air prison in Palestine.

            They are almost a perfect fit for our US government in fact. Also a perfect fit for the Nazis who run the Ukraine, those supported by the Israeli government.

          • AlexanderAmproz

            Auschwitz was only 4 years,

            Palestine is 70 Years ++…. !

          • Anti_Globalista

            Typical. When Hasbara troll is caught lying, he accuses the opponent of “antisemitism”. When talk starts about genocidal maniacs in Israeli government, the opponents are “Jew Haters”. Your tactics are childish and boring. People are becoming insensitive of your character assassination attempts because of overuse. Nobody gives a damn if you call them jew haters or antisemites.

          • Nod

            Moron. Russia is not a throwback in ideology. It are the same kind of greedy bastards we are. Use your head dimwit. This is about globalism. Russia don’t want it under the terms provided.

            Do you drink fluoride ?

          • AlexanderAmproz

            Jews were busy to Ron the Gulag butchery 10 times worst
            than the Nazis, and what about the Pogroms they did
            in Eastern Europe to make the SS welcome “Liberators” ?

            A coin has two faces !
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            http://www.voltairenet.org/article187508.html

            Anglo-American Money Owners Organized World War II

            by Valentin Katasonov

            To mark the 70th anniversary of the Victory against Nazism, we publish a study of Valentin Katasonov on financing of the NSDAP and the rearmament of the Third Reich. The author deals with new documents that confirm the organization of the Second World War by US and UK Bankers, covered by President Franklin Roosevelt and Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, in the hope of destroying the USSR. This study raises new questions that will be addressed in a future article.

            Hjalmar Schacht (left), Hitler’s finance minister, with his close friend Montagu Norman, Governor of the Bank of England from 1920 to 1944. According to documents reveled by the Bank of England in 2012, he Czechoslovak gold was held in London in a sub-account in the name of the Bank for International Settlements, the Basel-based bank for central banks. When the Nazis marched into Prague in March 1939 they immediately sent armed soldiers to the offices of the National Bank. The Czech directors were ordered, on pain of death, to send two transfer requests. The first instructed the BIS to transfer 23.1 metric tons of gold from the Czechoslovak BIS account, held at the Bank of England, to the Reichsbank BIS account, also held at Threadneedle Street. The second order instructed the Bank of England to transfer almost 27 metric tons of gold held in the National Bank of Czechoslovakia’s own name to the BIS’s gold account at the Bank of England.

            The war was not unleashed by frenzied Fuhrer who happened to be ruling Germany at the time. WWII is a project created by world oligarchy or Anglo-American “money owners”. Using such instruments as the US Federal Reserve System and the Bank of England they started to prepare for the next world conflict of global scale right after WWI. The USSR was the target.

            The Dawes and Young Plans, the creation of Bank of International Settlements (BIS), the Germany’s suspension of reparations payments it had to pay according to Paris Peace Treaty and the acquiescence of Russia’s former allies in this decision, large-scale foreign investments into the economy of Third Reich, the militarization of German economy and the breaches of Paris Treaty provisions – they all were important milestones on the way of preparing the war.

            There were key figures behind the plot: the Rockefellers, the Morgans, Lord Montagu Norman (the Governor of the Bank of England), Hjalmar Schacht (President of the Reichsbank and Minister of Economics in the Hitler’s government).The strategic plan of Rockefellers and Morgans was to subjugate Europe economically, saturate Germany with foreign investments and credits and make it deliver a crushing blow against the Soviet Russia so that it would be returned into the world capitalist system as a colony.

            Montagu Norman (1871 – 1950) played an important role of go-between to keep up a dialogue between American financial circles and Germany’s business leaders. Hjalmar Schacht organized the revival of Germany’s defense sector of economy. The operation conducted by “money owners” was covered up by such politicians as Franklin Roosevelt, Neville Chamberlain and Winston Churchill. In Germany the plans were carried out by Hitler and Hjalmar Schacht. Some historians say Hjalmar Schacht played a more important role than Hitler. Simply Schacht kept away from spotlight.

            The Dawes Plan was an attempt following World War I for the Triple Entente to compromise and collect war reparations debt from Germany. The Dawes Plan (as proposed by the Dawes Committee, chaired by Charles G. Dawes) was an attempt in 1924 to solve the reparations problem, which had bedeviled international politics following World War I and the Treaty of Versailles (France was reluctant to accept it got over 50% of reparations). In 1924-1929 Germany got $2, 5 billion from the United States and $ 1, 5 billion from Great Britain, according to Dawes Plan. In today’s prices the sum is huge, it is equal to $1 trillion of US dollars. Hjalmar Schacht played an active role in the implementation of Dawes Plan. In 1929 he summed up the results, saying that in 5 years Germany got more foreign loans that the United States in the 40 years preceding WWI. As a result, in 1929 Germany became the world’s second largest industrial nation leaving Great Britain behind.

            In the 1930s the process of feeding Germany with investments and credits continued. The Young Plan was a program for settling German reparations debts after World War I written in 1929 and formally adopted in 1930. It was presented by the committee headed (1929–30) by American industrialist Owen D. Young, creator and ex-first chairman of Radio Corporation of America (RCA), who, at the time, concurrently served at board of trustees of Rockefeller Foundation, and also had been one of representatives involved in previous war reparations restructuring arrangement – Dawes Plan of 1924. According to the plan, the Bank of International Settlements (BIS) was created in 1930 to make Germany pay reparations to victors. In reality the money flows went in quite a different direction – from the United States and Great Britain to Germany. The majority of strategically important German companies belonged to American capital or were partly under its control. Some of them belonged to British investors. German oil refinery and coal liquefaction sectors of economy belonged to Standard Oil (the Rockefellers). FarbenindustrieAG chemical industry major wasmoved under the control of the Morgan Group. 40% of telephone network and 30% of Focke Wulf shares belonged to American ITT. Radio and AEG, Siemens, Osram electrical industry majors moved under the control of American General Electric. ITT and General Electric were part of the Morgan’s empire. At least 100% of the Volkswagen shares belonged to American Ford. By the time Hitler came to power the US financial capital practically controlled all strategically important sectors of German industry: oil refining, synthetic fuel production, chemistry, car building, aviation, electrical engineering, radio industry, and a large part of machine-building (totally 278 companies). The leading German banks – Deutsche Bank, Dresdner Bank, Donat Bank and some others – were under US control.

            ***

            On January 30, 1933 Hitler was named the Chancellor of Germany. Before that his candidacy had been thoroughly studied by American bankers. HjalmarSchacht went to the United States in the autumn of 1930 to discuss the nomination with American colleagues. The Hitler’s appointment was finally approved at a secret meeting of financiers in the United States. He spent the whole 1932 trying to convince the German bankers that Hitler was the right person for the position. He achieved the goal. In mid-November 1932 17 German largest bankers and industrialists sent a letter to President Hindenburg expressing their demand to make Hitler the Chancellor of Germany. The last working meeting of German financiers before the election was held on January 4, 1933 in Kölnat the home of banker Kurt von Schröder. After that the National Socialist Party came to power. As a result, the financial and economic ties of Germany with Anglo-Saxons elevated to a higher level.

            Hitler immediately made an announcement that he refused to pay postwar reparations. It put into doubt the ability of England and France to pay off WWI debts to the United States. Washington did not object to the Hitler’s announcement. In May 1933 Hjalmar Schacht paid another visit to the United States. There he met with President Franklin Roosevelt and big bankers to reach a $1 billion credit deal.In June the same year Hjalmar Schacht visited London to hold talks with Montagu Norman. It all went down smoothly. The British agreed to grant a $2 billion loan. The British offered no objections related to the Germany’s decision to suspend debt payments.

            Some historians say the American and British bankers were pliant because by 1932 the Soviet Union had fulfilled the 5-year economic development plan to make it achieve new heights as an industrial power. A few thousand enterprises were built, especially in the sector of heavy industry. The dependence of USSR on import of engineering production has greatly dwindled. The chances to strangle the Soviet Union economically were practically reduced to zero. They decided to rely on war and launched the runaway militarization of Germany.

            It was easy for Germany to get American credits. By and large, Hitler came to power in his country at the same time as Franklin Roosevelt took office in the United States. The very same bankers who supported Hitler in 1931 supported Roosevelt at the presidential election. The newly elect President could not but endorse large credits to Germany. By the way, many noticed that there was a big similarity between the Roosevelt’s “New Deal Policy” and the economic policy of the German Third Reich. No wonder. The very same people worked out and consulted the both governments at the time. They mainly represented US financial circles.

            The Roosevelt’s New Deal soon started to stumble on the way. In 1937 America plunged into the quagmire of economic crisis. In 1939 the US economy operated at 33% of its industrial capacity (it was 19% in the heat of the 1929-1933 crisis).

            Rexford G. Tugwell, an economist who became part of Franklin Roosevelt’s first “Brain, a group of Columbia University academics who helped develop policy recommendations leading up to Roosevelt’s New Deal,wrote that in 1939 the government failed to reach any success.There was an open seatill the day Hitler invaded Poland.Only the mighty wind of war could dissipate the fog. Any other measures Roosevelt could take were doomed to failure. [1] Only the world war could save the US capitalism. In 1939 the money owners used all leverage at their disposal to put pressure of Hitler and make him unleash a big war in the east.

            http://www.voltairenet.org/article187508.html

          • AlexanderAmproz

            http://www.voltairenet.org/article187508.html

            The Bank of International Settlements (BIS) played an important role during the Second World War. It was created as an outpost of American interests in Europe and a link between Anglo-American and German businesses, a kind of offshore zone for cosmopolitan capital providing a shelter from political processes, wars, sanctions and other things. The Bank was created as a public commercial entity, it’s immunity from government interference and such things as taxes collection was guaranteed by international agreement signed in the Hague in 1930.

            The bankers of Federal Reserve Bank of New York, who were close to the Morgans, Montagu Norman, the Governor of the Bank of England, German financiers: Hjalmar Schacht (President of the Reichsbank and Minister of Economics in the Hitler’s government), Walther Funk (who later replaced Hjalmar Schacht as President of the Reichsbank) and EmilPuhl – all of them played an important role in the efforts to establish the Bank. The central banks of Great Britain, France, Italy, Germany, Belgium and some private banks were among the founders. The Federal Bank of New York did its best to establish the BIS, but it was not listed as a founder. The US was represented by the private First National Bank of New York, J.P. Morgan and Company, the First National Bank of Chicago – all parts of the Morgan’s empire. Japan was also represented by private banks. In 1931-1932 19 European central banks joined the Bank of International Settlements. Gates W. McGarrah, a banker of Rockefeller’s clan, was the first BIS chairman of the board. He was replaced by Leon Fraser, who represented the clan of Morgans. US citizen Thomas H. McKittrick was President of the Bankduring the war years.

            A lot has already been written about the BIS activities serving the interests of Third Reich. The Bank was involved in deals with different countries, including those Germany was at war with. Ever since Pearl Harbor the Bank of International Settlements has been a correspondent bank for the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It was under Nazi control during the war years, no matter American Thomas Huntington McKittrick was the Bank’s President. Soldiers were dying on the battlefields while the leadership of BIS held meetings in Basel with the bankers of Germany, Japan, Italy, Belgium, Great Britain and the United States. There, in the Swiss offshore zone, it was all peaceful, the representatives of belligerents quietly worked in the atmosphere of mutual understanding.

            Switzerland became the place where gold seized by Germany in different corners of Europe was transported to for storage. In the March of 1938, when Hitler captured Vienna, part of Austrian gold was transferred to BIS vaults. The same thing happened with the gold of Czech National Bank (48 million USD). As the war started, the flows of gold poured into the Bank of International Settlements. Germany got it from concentration camps and as a result of plundering the wealth of occupied countries (including whatever belonged to civilians: jewels, gold crowns, cigarette cases, utensils…). It was called the Nazi Gold. The metal was processed into ingots to be stored in the Bank of International Settlements, Switzerland, or outside Europe. Charles Higham in his Trading With The Enemy: An Expose of The Nazi-American Money Plot 1933-1949 wrote that during the war Nazi transferred $378 million into the accounts of Bank of International Settlements.

            A few words about the Czech gold. The details surfaced when after the Bank of England’s archives were declassified in 2012. [2] In the March of 1939 Germany captured Prague. Nazi demanded $48 million of national gold reserves. They were told that the sum had already been transferred to the Bank of International Settlements. Later it became known that the gold was transferred from Basel to the vaults of Bank of England. Upon the command from Berlin the gold was transferred to the ReichsbankBIS account. Then the Bank of England was involved in transactions done upon the orders of Reichsbank given to the Bank of International settlements. The commands were retransmitted to London. There was collusion between German Reichsbank, the Bank of International Settlements and the Bank of England. In 1939 a scandal broke out in Great Britain because the Bank of England executed the transactions with Czech gold upon the commands coming from Berlin and Basel, not the Czech government. For instance, in the June of 1939, three months before the war between Great Britain and Germany started, the Bank of England helped Germans to get into their accounts the amount of gold equal to 440 thousand pounds sterling and transfer some gold to New York (Germany was sure that in case of German intervention into Poland the United States would not declare war).

            The illegal transactions with Czech gold were implemented with tacit approval of the government of Great Britain which was aware of what was going on. Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, Chancellor of the Exchequer Sir John Simon and other top officials did their best to hide the truth, including outright lies (the gold was returned to the lawful owner or had never been transferred to Reichsbank). The recently declassified materials of Bank of England reveal the truth and show that the government officials lied to cover up themselves and the activities of the Bank of England and the Bank of International Settlements. It was easy to coordinate the joint criminal activities because Montagu Norman, the head of Bank of England, served as the chairman of the board of Bank of International Settlements. He never made secret of his sympathy for fascists.

            The Bretton Woods Conference, formally known as the United Nations Monetary and Financial Conference, was the gathering of 730 delegates from all 44 allied nations at the Mount Washington Hotel situated in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, the United States, to regulate the international monetary and financial order after the conclusion of World War II. The conference was held from 1 to 22 July 1944. All of a sudden the issue of the Bank of International Settlements hit the agenda. It was reported that the bank collaborated with fascist Germany. Leaving many details aside, I’d only mention that with great difficulty (some US delegates opposed the motion) the delegates reached an agreement to close the BIS. The decision of international conference has never been enacted. All the discreditable information related to the BIS wartime activities was classified. Today it helps to falsify the history of the Second World War.

            Finally, a few words about Hjalmar Schacht (1877-1970) who served as President of the Reichsbank and Minister of Economics in the fascist Germany’s government. He was a key figure controlling the economic machine of Third Reich, an extraordinary and plenipotentiaryambassador representing Anglo-American capital in Germany. In 1945 Schacht was tried at Nuremberg to be acquitted on October 1, 1946. He got away with murder. The same way it happened to Hitler. For some unexplained reasons he was not in the 1945 leading wartime criminals list. More to it, Schacht returned to his profession like if nothing happened and founded Schacht GmbH in Düsseldorf. This detail may go unnoticed, though it serves as another testimony to the fact that Anglo-American “money owners” and their plenipotentiary representatives in Germany prepared and, to some extent, influenced the outcome of the Second World War. The “money owners” want to rewrite the history of the war and change its results.

            Valentin Katasonov

            Source

            Strategic Culture Foundation (Russia)

            [1] P.Tugwell, The Democratic Roosevelt, A Biography of Franklin D. Roosevelt, New York, 1957, p 477.

            [2] http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/arch

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          • Nod

            he did not say that dimwit….You babble bullshit, cant prove it, then call people names for calling you out.

        • Jens Holm

          Its easy to make long lists about lies by Mr Put Inn.

          We saw the protest, when Russia would celebrate for the Victory a Fatherland winning WW2.

          Millions and millions in the new liberated countries protested it. Russia was not father for them, but an occupant.

          That ´goes for Ukraine whatever bad and strange, they are. If some Ukrainian few troops added with some americans should arrack Russia, they should close down that ineffctivity.

          Some might even think, that all their mobile forces are in Syria :)

          A private oppinion is, they should vote about the belonging for those never Ukrainiens infecting it by Khrusthoff. But then they should have something else. The same goes for Crimera.

          Crimera is only Russian today because it was taken by many years of occupation of land. The musolims there was defeated and all deported at least twice – much worse then tjetjenia. Some few Tatars live there in small enclaves for the folklore and tourisme.

          Kind of semilar to Armenians in Turkey. Here Turks also seemes to learn, that Armenia never was a country but a Roman from Rome as well as Greekes dint run anything. Italiens did it

          But true about doors in other ways too. If You open a door to Your neighbor its garbage fall into Your world. It can be very expensive to handle, and You even can be blamed for it.

          But strange fx muslims prefare Western Europe as Christians and sekulars for Muslims and Russia. I think they should learn and go home.

          Our own garbage pop up, by semi-gration like that in wast numbers.

          • Nod

            You are still a lying piece of dog shit….

            “Crimera is only Russian today because it was taken by many years of occupation of land. ”

            It is Russian, because they WANT to be Russian. An overwhelming choice made via referendum.

            You babble ignorance as knowledge dimwit.

            Shut up and learn from your betters.

            “The reasons may lie in the historical genesis of modern Ukraine, which is a nation called into being during World War I, not by a popular movement of its own people, but rather by the German military leadership, and then propped up in recent years by the United States and the European Union.”

            http://tarpley.net/metaphysical-doubts-concerning-the-existence-of-modern-ukraine-a-1918-creation-of-the-german-general-staff/

          • Jens Holm

            Next time You comment me and maybe others, You should read it first.

          • Nod

            wiki is source for propaganda driven mouthpieces. Perfect choice for you.

          • Jens Holm

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Tatars

            Seemes You are in the USSR history book only justifying almost anything as well as forgetting everything it wants.

            Germans never had the whole Ukraine in the last days of Ukraine as well as it was only for a while.

            If any form west should be blamed, it was the Poles. But YOU attacked them to get back Your polish colony, and YOU as the only ones lost WW1 3 times by that. THEN they were as greeady as You, and took too much.

          • Nod

            I never attacked anyone dimwit….I am not the west. I am not relevant.

            And wiki, is a joke.

          • Nod

            wow, that was a load of babbling bullshit….

          • Nod

            moron, your opinion based in ignorance, is not knowledge.

            “Crimera is only Russian today because it was taken by many years of occupation of land.”

            You are also a fucking liar. Crimea had a referendum and chose Russia over IMF debt, NAZI Ukraine, and NATO exploitation.

            As to land stealing, no one does it better than the Zionist scum, and the American scum.

            Keep babbling you dimwitted fuck.

          • Jens Holm

            My oppinon s are based on facts and own way for better solutions. Here its a facts, that Crimera is traded as any object. So if given back, the Kiwvs has to have somerhing else.

            They divided in % and Ukraine do have 45 mio. inhabitants. therefore they as others has had to have thir part.

            I only see the USSR oppinon in Your writing and You even use stealing. Actually Crimea and its muslim Tatars was taken hard by warfare from Tatars and they cant come back having their own relatives deported twice.

            I therefore here has proposed a neutral solution, that Tatars should be their own autonome and only leave small navy base rigts to others. Then none of Your morons would fullfill Your nasty greedyness.

            We in the rest of Europe is so tired listening to criminals fighting among crimkinal, for thats what its all about. And those bad people did exist when all was USSR.

            USA and We did not make that. We have our own problems too and never will go back to Russia riling our many small nations anymore. We have see the results before WW1 as well as after WW2. At least those countries now has no barbed fences, so they can leave and learn.

            I see no succes for that in Russia as well as Ukraine.

          • Nod

            you are still opinionating and babbling bullshit, while ignoring the facts.

        • Jens Holm

          WW2 dividin Poland as well as everything is the most well descriebed in the whole world.

          The door hs been opend for many years and extra since 1991, so anything about closing is totally irrelevent.

          To me You are from the ruins of the USSR communist version still not updated even Russian themselves has moved the grave of Stalin by good reasons.

          And Yes, Trojson is kind of correect about dismembering people for own reasons only.

          I can only see, You have not updatet, what has been well known for decades about Ukraine versus Sovjet and probatly other things around it.

          Its on internet in different and mainly very sober versions here at internet too made by very diffirent people.

    • Jens Holm

      Thats right. Vrey biased propaganda.

      Russian colonies are should not be allowed to even defend themselves against their Father/Mother land.

    • Nod

      “Is the author oblivious to the fact that he’s as guilty of creating any war ”

      Now this, is really stupid. Those preparing for war, are those surrounding Russia with missiles and tanks dimwit.

      Those doing globalism on the planet are doing the actual war. You babble the ridiculous, and only the ridiculous beLIEve it.

      • Smaug

        ….such as this fool right here.

  • Per/Norway
    • Bob Starsky

      u see russians. i see dirty bolsheviks proud of katyn massacre and demanding more

      • John Whitehot

        i see that all those who don’t forget the past, whatever their side, and don’t work for peace, are taken out of this planet and forgotten for good.

        • Bob Starsky

          how can i forget if my family land was illegally taken by force by russians and given to occupy by nazi banderas and we havent got any apology nor compensations!

          • John Whitehot

            let me be clear:

            you will forget.

            or else.

            you are not given a choice.

            go in peace and keep on with your lives.

      • Tudor Miron

        So who exactly did the shooting in katyn massacre?

        • Bob Starsky

          how hard is to check it was russia and russians?

          • Tudor Miron

            As far as I know they were killed by Germans but that’s not what you’d like to admit.

  • Veritas Vincit

    – “Current clashes are probably not in preparation of an all out Kiev offensive but a resumption of full scale war is nonetheless inevitable …. the Ukrainian economy has essentially collapsed and is for all practical purpose in a state of default….. Barring a miracle of some kind, Kiev will simply have to attack as a war or, better (from their point of view) a Russian “invasion” (which would be a liberation [of Russian speaking populations that have already asked to integrate with Russia but were for now refused], of course) is now the only and last option left to cover up the total collapse not only of the US Ukrainian policy but also of the entire “Independent Ukraine” [NATO integration] project.” (Situation in East Ukraine Is Explosive and Very Dangerous, The Saker, 06/06/2015)

    – “The U.S. and NATO are preparing Ukraine for a local war with Russia” (If a Russia-Ukraine War Breaks Out Over Sea of Azov It Will Make War in Syria Look Like a Tea Party, Lyle J. Goldstein, 25/10/2018)

    – “[The US] is desperate to pull Russia into a military intervention [the resultant war in Ukraine that would compromise/sabotage its political and economic ties with Europe while facilitating the ongoing military expansion of the NATO bloc]… So what are the Russian chances to not be provoked in this context? Pretty close to zero I think.” (The neo-Nazi junta in Kiev dramatically increases its efforts to provoke Russian into an intervention, June 16, 2014)

    ‘Black Sea deployments associated with enhancing close proximity first strike potential’
    – “The Black Sea is the perfect platform through which to project military power into the very heart of Russia,” the CIA-linked think tank STRATFOR wrote in, “The Black Sea: A Net Assessment.” From positions in the Black Sea, NATO can strike rapidly against the Russian capital city, and simultaneously cut off energy supplies to Russia’s military by seizing Russia’s oil production centers in Tatarstan and Bashkortostan, STRATFOR wrote…… “If a naval operation were to project power from the Black Sea toward the Don River corridor between Rostov-on-Don and Volgograd (better known by its former name, Stalingrad), Moscow would be cut off from the Russian Caucasus and the region’s immense energy resources,” STRATFOR noted.” (US Navy to continue Black Sea incursions, brushing aside Russian demands, By Thomas Gaist, WSWS, 18 June 2017)

    – “The NATO member-countries are arming themselves, with troops, heavy and armored vehicles being amassed in the Baltic countries, Poland and other countries under the guise of drills,” [Russian Deputy Defense Minister Colonel General Alexander Fomin] said….. These developments as well as the increased number and intensity of NATO drills near Russian borders and the recent Ukraine-provoked escalation in the Black Sea region could be considered as pre-war preparations and provocations on the eastern borders of NATO. According to some experts, the intensity and scale of this activity cannot be explained by ordinary “security efforts” of the military bloc to deter “Russian agression”. If one takes into account this factors, it could be concluded that the Washington establishment and its proxies within the EU bureaucracy and political elites of eastern European states are openly pushing in the direction of an open aggressive war against Russia.” (Is Big War In Europe Inevitable?, Southfront, 02/12/2018), etc……

    With consideration of the successive and globally expanding wars of aggression of the U.S.-NATO-allied bloc, preparations by the bloc for further wars against Iran, the DPRK (the U.S. position remains incompatible with a peaceful resolution with the replication of policies/actions preceding war against Iraq), China, Russia, etc., it should be clear to observers what is more broadly occurring.

    • Veritas Vincit

      ‘Additional related reports including U.S.-NATO involvement in the sniper killings during the coup in Ukraine’

      -“The United States, for its part, were interested in forming a pro-Western government in Ukraine. They saw that Russia is on the rise, and were eager not to let it consolidate its position in the post-Soviet space. The success of the pro-Western forces in Ukraine would allow the U.S. to contain Russia. Russia calls the events that took place at the beginning of this year a coup d’etat organized by the United States. And it truly was the most blatant coup in history.” (Stratfor Chief’s “Most Blatant Coup in History” Interview Translated in Full, 20/01/2015)

      – “86 Euromaidan militants… came to Poland under the invitation of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs [in September 2013]…. they spent four weeks engaged in a regiment of destabilization training….. the EuroMaidan militants had prior Western-backed training [and] Poland was chosen as the location for their instruction. Through its direct involvement and support in training the radicals, Poland is quickly living up to its reputation as NATO’s most important frontline state.” (Poland’s Role in Destabilizing Ukraine: Polish Military Trained Neo-Nazi Militants for EuroMaidan Protests, Oriental Review, April 17, 2014).

      – “Oleg Tsarov, who was then the People’s Deputy of Ukraine, talks about US preparations for civil war in Ukraine, November 2013 in Kiev parliament… In his speech he said: “activists of the organization ‘Volya’ turned to me providing clear evidence that within our territory with support and direct participation of the US EMBASSY (in Kiev) the ‘Tech Camp’ project is realized under which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine. The project is currently overseen and under the responsibility of the US ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey R. Pyatt [a key regime change architect]… I have learned they succeeded to access the facilities of ‘Tech Camp’ disguised as a team of IT specialists…. AMERICAN instructors explained how social networks and Internet technologies can be used for targeted manipulation of public opinion as well as to activate protest potential to provoke violent unrest in the territory of Ukraine; radicalization of the population triggering infighting. American instructors presented examples of successful use of social networks used to organize protests in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya. Recent conference took place Nov 14-15, 2013, in the heart of Kiev in the Embassy of the United States of America” (US started Ukraine civil war,
      30/01/2015)

      – “The two Georgians, Alexander Revazishvili and Koba Nergadze have agreed to testify by video from Tbilisi, if permitted, as they feared for their lives if brought to Kiev….. “The eyewitnesses said they had seen with their own eyes a group of people who had received weapons and cartridges and who would deliver fire afterwards from the building of the Conservatoire. Nergadze also saw snipers at the roof of Hotel Ukraine. They know the individuals personally….. “In all, about fifty mercenaries arrived in Kiev then and they were involved in the events on the Maidan afterwards and fired at the protesters on February 20……. The mercenaries split into groups of ten men each and were dispatched to different spots where from they delivered fire.” “Each of them [the mercenaries] received $5,000 for the job done,” he said. “In other words, these people had been brought [to Kiev] with a well-specified task to create a conflict.”…… These witnesses stated to Gian Micalessin, even more explosively, that the American Army was directly involved in the murders.

      The clear objective of the Maidan massacre in Kiev on February 20, 2014 was to sow chaos and reap the fall of the democratically elected, pro-Russian Yanukovych government. People were slaughtered for no other reason than to destroy a government the NATO powers, especially the United States and Germany, wanted removed….. The western media and leaders quickly blamed the Yanukovych government for the killings during the Maidan demonstrations, but more evidence has become available indicating that the massacre in Kiev of police and civilians – which led to the escalation of protests, leading to the overthrow of the Yanukovych government – was the work of snipers working on orders of government opponents and their NATO controllers using the protests as a cover for a coup….. In the September 2015 issue of Oriental Review, Dr. Ivan Katchanovski, at the University of Ottawa, published a devastating paper on the Maidan killings setting out in extensive detail the conclusive evidence that it was a false flag operation and that members of the present Kiev regime, including Poroshenko himself were involved in the murders, not the government forces……

      ……..In the November 16 article in the Italian journal Il Giornale, and repeated on Italian TV Canale 5, journalist Gian Micalessin revealed that 3 Georgians, all trained army snipers, and with links to Mikheil Saakashvili and Georgian security forces were ordered to travel to Kiev from Tbilisi during the Maidan events…… they met with, among other people, an American soldier in uniform, a claimed “former” member of the US Army’s 101st Airborne Division, who gave them orders on what to do, which it turned out to be was to shoot into Maidan Square randomly targeting people, protestors and police alike, to create fear and confusion, to implicate the government forces as the shooters, to create the chaos necessary in order to undermine the government of President Yanukovych….. The name of the American soldier, or the alias he used, was Brian Christopher Boyenger. He showed up later as an adviser to the Ukrainian Georgian Legion. One of the snipers stated, “Once, I guess around February 15, Mamulashvili personally visited our tent. There was another guy with him wearing a uniform. Mamulashvili introduced him to us and told us he was an American military guy and will be our instructor.” Another stated, “This American was Brian Christopher Boyenger, a “former” soldier, a sniper, from the 101st Airborne Division.” “He was the one who gave us orders.”…….

      …….No one can seriously doubt that his presence was known to the US ambassador in Kiev, Geoffrey Pyatt, who, according to then Vice President Joe Biden, was in hourly contact with Andriy Parubiy, the Ukrainian fascist who was in charge of “self defence units” made of heavily armed fascist thugs at Maidan. According to the Italian report, Parubiy was going in and out of the Hotel Ukraina from where many shots were fired and was aware of the presence of the American soldier so the American ambassador must have been aware and his government….. The western media has so far ignored the Italian interviews….. the reality is that the new evidence reported by the Italian press will change nothing in the narrative of the general western media which will conspire to suppress or better, ignore this evidence…… the evidence, now coming in a flood, about what the NATO forces did in Kiev on February 20, 2014 show us that they are capable of anything, and will stop at nothing. (Georgian Snipers: An American Directed Kiev’s Maidan False Flag Massacre, Christopher Black, 21/12/2017)

  • occupybacon

    “President Donald Trump’s refusal to have a separate meeting with President Putin at the G20 summit” Why do Putin wants to meet Trump and Merkel with any occasion, does hifiving them makes him look good at home? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5613126d5ec2b43227e6b862a06f686a9dcd7a0434151c74134400989e87aea9.gif

  • russ

    I wonder if the Ukrainian Intelligence Officers that were captured on the boats by Russia are somewhat bitter realizing their lives were being sacrificed to provoke War.

  • Anti_Globalista

    Divide and conquer. Stupid Slavs being used against smart Slavs to be canon fodder for foreign interests. I hope that stupid Slavs will smarten up, and understand that together with smart Slavs they can be the force to reckon with, that will bow to no one.

  • hvaiallverden

    Slavs, why do you think they have that name, because they are an bastard breed, stupid sheeps, from milleniums ago to the present, spineless coward creeps, sels their grandmother for an piece of bread, and have nothing left than tales from an distant past, the present, like the corrupt morons in Slovake should tell you everything you need, and what really pisses me of, is their unconditional assliking of the Khazars, not that I want or will have anything to do with this spineless creeps, since I am an orginial european not an bastard breed, withc also afects their minds, but the stupid people ability to paint them self into an corner is well known, and is sucking any swinging Jooho dick they can find, to me, they are nothing, and please, forget this bullshit about Slavs, because it was the Finnish vikings along with whats the present Russian vikings(volga) that crushed the Khazars, nobody else.
    And it looks like we have to do it again, and again Ukraina is the main battleground, becasue of the corrupt slavs, throw some glittering shit infront of them and they sel their soul in an hart beat.

    There are stil, remnants of the europeans in France, Merovingians to Corsica/Sicilia to the Bay of Biscaya, and I bet you have zero kowledge about what I talk about, do you uh….slavs.
    The Khazars, well, to me they are jews, and I dont care whatever narrative you drool into this about Jews, they are, and never have been anywhere near semitic, they are an bastard breed of slavs and Turko-mongols aka Khazars whom are stil alive and kicking, yeah, I bet you stil dont know what I talk about, do you, Hebrews are Arabic people, they are semitic, the rest is windlers and terrorists, period.

    Crimea, isnt their homeland, that homeland lies in the central parst of Caucasus, Crimea was their last “kingdom”.
    To day, 2018, they are watered out, but some stil have their caracteristics, like the Nose etc.

    And to the more curious ones, I recomend to read, The Dictonary of the Khazars, and splendid book if you know what an book is.
    But I never trust the slavs. thru history they are an corrupt people, deprivated from their own soul, and now this days, just an shaddow, just look how fast they bended their knees for their masters in ISISrael, they have all been there, huh, give me an break, stupid people.
    They are the ones that have to prove their wourth, nobody else and so far they have spectaculary failed, stupid people, and you will bleed for that, slavs.

    peace