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Double Standards Haunt US And Europe In NATO Dispute With Turkey

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Double Standards Haunt US And Europe In NATO Dispute With Turkey

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Written by James M. Dorsey

US and European acquiescence in Turkey’s long-standing refusal to honour Kurdish ethnic, cultural, and political rights has come home to roost with Turkish opposition to Finnish and Swedish NATO membership.

The opposition has sparked debates about Turkey’s controversial place in the North Atlantic defense alliance.

Turkey’s detractors point to its problematic military intervention in Syria, relations with Russia, refusal to sanction Moscow, and alleged fuelling of tension in the eastern Mediterranean, calling the country’s NATO membership into question.

Its defenders note that Turkey, NATO’s second-largest standing military, is key to maintaining the alliance’s southern flank. Also, Turkey’s geography, population size, economy, military power, and cultural links to a Turkic world make it a critical link between Europe and Asia. In addition, Turkish drones have been vital in Ukraine’s war with Russia, while Turkey has been a mediator in the conflict, albeit with limited success.

Kurdish rights hardly figure in the debates, and if they do, only as a prop for taking Turkey to task for its slide into authoritarianism.

An ethnic group spread across southeastern Turkey, northern Iraq, northern Syria, and western Iran, Kurds are seen at best as assets in the fight against the Islamic State and at worst a threat to Turkish security and territorial integrity. Turkey’s estimated 16 million Kurds account for up to 20 per cent of the country’s population.

Turkey, or Turkiye as it wants to be known going forward, has used the security argument to make its agreement to Swedish and Finnish NATO membership dependent on the two Nordic countries effectively accepting its definition of terrorism as including any national expression of Kurdish identity.

Turkey has demanded that Sweden and Finland extradite 33 people, some of whom are Swedish or Finnish nationals, because of their alleged support for the Kurdish Workers Party (PKK) or exiled preacher Fethullah Gulen, whom President Recep Tayyip Erdogan holds responsible for a failed military coup in 2016.

Turkey accuses the two Nordic countries of allowing the PKK to organize on their territory. Alongside the United States and the European Union, Turkey has designated the PKK as a terrorist organisation. The PKK has waged a decades-long insurgency against Turkey in which tens of thousands have been killed.

Turkey also wants Sweden and Finland to support its military operation against the People’s Protection Units (YPG), a US-backed Syrian Kurdish group that played a crucial role in defeating the Islamic State. Turkey asserts that the YPG is an extension of the PKK.

Mr. Erdogan recently announced that Turkey would launch a new military operation to extend the Turkish armed forces’ areas of control in Syria to a 30-kilometer swath of land along the two countries shared border. The offensive would target the YPG in the towns of Tel Rifaat and Manbij and possibly Kobani, Ain Issa, and Tell Tamer.

Past US and European failure to stand up for Kurdish rights, as part of Turkey’s need to meet the criteria for NATO membership that include “fair treatment of minority populations,” has complicated the fight against the Islamic State, stymied Kurdish aspirations beyond Turkey’s borders and enabled repression of Kurdish rights in Turkey.

More immediately, the failure to hold Turkey accountable for its repression of Kurdish ethnic and political rights within the framework of the Turkish state has enabled Ankara to establish Turkish policies as a condition for NATO membership even if they violate NATO membership criteria.

Those policies include defining the peaceful expression of Kurdish identity as terrorism and the rolling back of Kurdish language and cultural rights since the collapse in 2015 of peace talks with the PKK. Turkey lifted the ban on Kurdish languages and the word Kurd in 1991. Until then, Kurds were referred to as ‘mountain Turks.’

The governor of the southeastern Turkish province of Diyarbakir, widely seen as a hub of Kurdish cultural and political activity, forced this writer under treat of death to leave the region for using the word Kurd rather than mountain Turk in interviews in the 1980s.

Kurdish language programs in universities have dwindled in recent years amid administrative hurdles, while Kurdish parents complain of pressure not to enroll their children in elective Kurdish courses.

Most Kurdish-language services and activities created by local administrations were terminated by government-appointed trustees who replaced dozens of Kurdish mayors ousted by Ankara for alleged links to the PKK. Many of the ousted mayors and other leading Kurdish politicians remain behind bars.

The failure to take Turkey to task early on takes on added significance at a time when NATO casts the war in Ukraine as a battle of values and of democracy versus autocracy that will shape the contours of a 21st-century world order.

For his part, US President Joe Biden has sought to regain the moral high ground in the wake of the Trump presidency that broke with American liberalism by declaring “America is back” in the struggle for democratic and human rights.

Mr. Biden and Europe’s problem is that their credibility rides on cleaning up at home and ensuring that they are seen as sincere rather than hypocritical.

That’s a tall order amid assertions of structural racism on both sides of the Atlantic; controversy over gun ownership in the United States; preferential arrangements for Ukrainian refugees as opposed to non-Europeans and non-whites fleeing war, persecution, and destruction; and foreign policies that treat violations of human and political rights differently depending on who commits them.

The obvious place to start is at home. Kurds could be another starting point, with Finnish and Swedish NATO membership on the front burner. Meeting Turkish demands regarding perpetrators of political violence is one thing; acquiescing in the criminalization of legitimate Kurdish political and cultural expression is another.

That may be a tough bargain to drive home in Ankara. However, it would offer a compromise formula that could serve everyone’s interest and help Turkey solve a problem that promises to be one of the Middle East’s multiple exploding powder kegs.

Dr. James M. Dorsey is an award-winning journalist and scholar, a Senior Fellow at the National University of Singapore’s Middle East Institute and Adjunct Senior Fellow at Nanyang Technological University’s S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies, and the author of the syndicated column and blog, The Turbulent World of Middle East Soccer.

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Matt

No “double standards” with Russia?…

Tell that to the first Russian Aerospace pilots shot down in the beginning stages of the war in Syria and the countless thousands that have died wearing Russian uniforms since 2015… As well as the Turkish arms and mercs in Ukraine that certainly aren’t fighting on the side of Russia!?…

Then as the reward for killing Russians in Syria… Putin gifts them with SA-400s???…

The contradictions DO abound!…

P.$.

Ambassador to Turkey Andrei Karlov RIP!…

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jens holm

Thats right. There is no only right and wrong but a network of indepencency as well.

Its very visible for Ukraine, Balerus and Ukraine. We are dependent but also has to tell our oppinions about things too.

Here russia now has a NO WAY. GET OUT.

We are very determinant about this one.

Edgar Zetar

Jens Holm, please take your medication and your happy pills. Please, buddy, you will be happy.

jens holm

Thats no comment.

Yuri

you mentally ill illiterate moron—stop slurping CIA sperm

Jack

Jens Holms is a negro. You beholden to double standards. You don’t know what that means. There is no logic to your behaviour, you make illogical insults and endlessly regurgitate Bolshevik nonsense pumped into your empty head.

https://odysee.com/@martinezperspective:2/alt-light-putintards:3?lc=360a80464ec9feb9002c2d3a7fe67d7073a905cc663f4f2bf74d1f298541ded8

Jack

You want Europe to decline into a third world mongrel shit hole not unlike your own.

Jack

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1365746097117921288.html

Edgar Zetar

Turks (aka Otoman Empire or Anciente Constantinopla) is in a very odd geopolitic zone. You have Russia in the north, also in the south Syria Israel ( Russia / USA), west (Greece EU Germany EU / USA) and the east Iran Iraq (Persia) . If I was Turkey I probably would do the same as Erdogan but would use more diplomacy and soft power to try to adjust better Turkey into the zone. Turkey fears Russia and its not without reasson. Turkey is safe inside NATO but their domestic population and mafia’s stills fear Russia thats why they killed the ambassador). Turkey is trying to haves more gains from NATO, and would not permit Sweden or Finland (nordics countries) join NATO without taking advantage from, they haves threats from every direction… Mediterranean sea is the only safe neighboor they had. So, expect Turkey would play his weak Poker Hand the Best they can in order to exist as a tiny Empire in the XXI Century of Big Powers Competition.

Yuri

stupid Oregon hillbilly nazi cannot comprehend double standards—you morons are farcical

Yuri

halfwit nazi cannot comprehend standards

Matt

Tell that to the Russian Ambassador to Tukey Andrei Karlov’s family and the Russian servicemen who have given their lives to their Country in Syria and now Ukraine!…

Be careful who you call a traitor!… I see that SouthFront removed my initial comment which is telling

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Sol Invıctus

That shit-eater russian troll altering his nick continously removed your comment.He finally achieved his goal 😀.Pathetic,desperate looser all day long reading peoples post,answering everyone(all of his posts worthless shit btw) is only thing he does.His way of life.Sad,he can rest in piss with his whore mother now.

Anonymous

If double standards ever haunted their puppet masters they would all be long ago criminally insane. Let’s see should we start with the “most bloodthirsty form of government the world has ever seen” according to Ben Franklin, who was there in Paris witnessing it first hand? Or should we go bqck to the beginning? The Spanish Inquisition?

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jens holm

The world is not as simplified as the article.

We and USA many times has told Turks hard to make internal changes. This is not only for Kurds or some smaller parts of them but for all.

The article dont mention Kurds in Syria was second choise as tool against Assads.

It also dont mention that USA try to keep borders intact as stabilty for the world(becaue of the WW2 and the many new no more colonies).

Its also forgotten that many Nato members as well as many others see Turks making themself to enemies or non friends.

USA is the main supporter in keeping Turkey in Nato. Its also forgotten that we care about Ourself and pay for not getting million of muslim refugees in.

USA has the same dilemma with socalled mexicans. They can use some more of them every year but not millions.

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Edgar Zetar

My eyes cry everytime I read Jens Holm comments. Please learn how to work the differents layer of strategies and you should learn why USA invited Turkey to join NATO in the first time. Turkey is a big player in the Mediterranean Sea, also haves a big economy and owns the number two military in NATO. The Kurds are an issue to Turkey establishment of an Empire, because they have land that should own Turkey. Turkey haves a WRONG approach, because instead fight the kurds or every other tribe they encounter they should try to negotiate to them and make them to join the Turkey Cause so they will expand better and without the issues they have now in Syria and Iraq, soon will have issues with Iran if they expand east and reach his proxy Azerbaijan. Guess turks are very xenophobus

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Donnchadh

Its more a case of Erdogan,s “vision ” of Hitlerian proportions to make Turkey the “glorious ” empire he thinks it once was.

jens holm

Basemment Ottoman

Attila

Why not?

ATLGA

Turks are very hospitable to certain guests, your neighbors will invite you over for every meal until you feel like you can’t walk. They’ll offer the Turkish coffee no matter how many crude facial expressions you make as you take the first sip. But once you’ve gained their trust and you’ve been tear-gassed leaving the stadium together, you’ve passed out with their flag superimposed with Ataturk as a blanket, and you’ve met every last one of their family members they speak openly with you as a foreigner. And then you will witness more vile statements and accusations levied against Arabs than you could ever imagine. I will not label all Turks as abiding by this genocidal and xenophobic mentality but it is an outspoken portion of the population.

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jens holm

Most of yours is crap. I have been reading, writing and commenting things there for decades.

Porc halal ft DJ Bobo

Turks can’t get along with kurds because turks are too indoctrinated with islam, while kurds are more secular and even anti-islamic, in the case of the PKK and other kurdish organizations…

Porc halal ft DJ Bobo

Ps … Islam is just one of the many satanic sects that exist on planet earth

Chris Gr

This is not correct. Kurds are very Islamistic. Most of them don’t like PKK.

Wizzy

Why do you bother with Jens?

Yuri

despicable halfwit nazi moron liar—your stupidity grows with each comment jens

Yuri

Turkey refuses NATO admission to terrorist vassals, Sweden Finland—so much for NATO unity decaying failing angloshere/nato isolated from the civilized world

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thoughtful

A wanderng nomadic people who did not have a nation to themselves but who instead pastured their animals, wandering from country to country, the Kurds were kindly given Syrian citizenship but instead of integrating, becoming part of Syria and contributing to the nation, they instead want to steal Syrian lands for themselves, lands with oil wealth. Is it any wonder that citizens of nations which adopted the Kurds are against these people who are ingrates, who steal, who do not integrate and contribute to the nations where they were given citizenship? Why should Kurds steal other nations resource rich parts for themselves, carve out parts of other peoples’ nations for their own use and rule over those who were kind to them? The US sets these people against those with whom they live, promising them prosperity higher than others living in the same nations. Russia, it was Syrian girl who explained to me about the Kurds. Nothing has challenged what she told me. Do not stand up for these people but throw them back onto the US who made all of the promises to them, the US made Kurds promises that they would own the richest parts of the nations where they were welcomed. Note that the US promised the Kurds parts of Iraq and Syria, the US promised the Kurds resource rich lands which neither of them had any right to own. Kurds, once given citizenship of a nation are like the birds called cuckoos who shove the other chicks or eggs out of the nest. Please Russia, there are reasons that the US uses Kurds to further their evil agendas and there are reasons that nations which host the Kurds have bad blood between them and these people. Russia please STOP defending these Kurds. Make the US leave and take these proxies of theirs with them. Stand closer to Turkey and stop challenging them re their Kurd problem. The Kurds do not merit your sympathy to the extent to which you give it to them.

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jens holm

Syria was moved north. By that it suddenly had a Turkmenish and a Kurdiash population.

The Kurds has lived there for at least 4000 years. The Turkmen was import as protection against arabs by the Ottomans.

Syria until that was Jordan, the Westbank and more to it. It also had no coastline.

Kurds and Turkmen was never asked to be with someone like You. Parts of their borders to Turkey was made by a new railroadline as well(Kobane).

jens holm

Syrians themself has had no state themself since 158 when the Mongols too the Bagdad Khalifat. For centuries they were ottomans. befor that they were Bazantines and before that they were romans.

The only real states there were the Christian crusader states such as Antiocia.

Next it makes no ssense to make any kind of state in those mountains and the dry land, where kurds lived and live. Its seperated valley didvided by nature. By that they have had strong tribeunits.

Chris Gr

This is not correct comment. Syria was just fractured. We need a new Aramean ideology to unite them.

jens holm

Finally there was no Kurdish problem until some morons from Bagdad, Tehran. Damaskus and Ankara demanded them to integrate with them.

We see the Turkish respect well. Konstantinopel was renamed like most of things in Turkey. Kurds were not even allowed to have their own names for anything.

The latters was changed too. The Ottoman arabificed was not allowed anymore. By that the few Kurds able to read and write was deranged away from Turks as well as arabs too.

I certainly hope all Turks can make changes after next election. The inflation might do it.

Porc halal ft DJ Bobo

That’s pretty much true. The “respect” to others came from coran (momo’s satanic book). There you’ll find how momo teaches his followers to “respect” the “infidels”.

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Chris Gr

But you should know that Kurds cooperated with the Turks and the Iranians on the genocide of Armenians and Assyrians.

Victoria NullEnd

The 40million Kurds must have an independent Kurdistan. The Walachs became an independent Romania, Kosovo and other small countries too. The problem is the Oil region in Syria is kurdish, and in Iran too.

Chris Gr

It is not exactly like that. You mean PKK/YPG not Kurds in general. There are many Kurdish groups in all 4 countries who support Erdogan and fight against PKK.

Citizenfitz

You can always tell when “they” are close by because they bring their double standards with them. And self contradictions. And their projection.

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thoughtful

Russia, Turkey hates the Kurds and they have REASON for it. Stop defending these Kurds who are the lackeys of the US. The Kurds always betray the otyher peoples of the nations which accepted this nomadic people and gave them citizenship. The US promises them that they will grab the resources and rule over those who allowed them in. The Christians in Iraq, living under Kurdish rule suffered under their rulership. Erdo really has a point about these Kurds, so stop allowing the Kurds to drive such a wedge between you and Turkey.

Yuri

moron anglos and Scandinavians cannot think dialectically—observed by many including Kierkegaard—“take paradox away from a thinker and you have a poor professor”….many of the moron oregun hillbillies cannot comprehend this. the impoverished language ensures their impoverished thinking….kurds have been duplicitous throughout history—they have no allies except for amerikant nazis

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Chris Gr

Both Soviet Union and Russia have supported Kurdish separatists. This is fact.

Suresh

YPG has not been “instrumental” in defeating ISIS, nor the US & Coalition. Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, Iraqi PMFs and Syrians have that glorious honour. What the Kurds have been instrumental in doing is providing the US/Israel a foothold in keeping the festering insurgency alive in Syria. And while I am not a fan of Türkiye, as long as they remain a thorn in the side of the Empire of Lies, the better!

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kotromanic

Treat them like the US treats al quaida just the other way around. Arm them as long as they attack the turks and bomb them when they dare to attack the syrian army. Dont forget bayraktar and other stuff the turks deliver to ukraine for them to kill russians.

kotromanic

Kurds and Turks murdered the christians in the ottoman empire as brothers. Then they got into an argument over who get’s the real estate off the murdered. They both deserve each other.

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Chris Gr

Yes

BDK

Turkey is pulling both Russia and the USA by their noses. The only country except for Germany that ever commited a genocide, over Armenians, and it doesn’t even have to apologize every year to their victims as Germans routinely do.

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Yuri

halfwit nazis cannot comprehend geopolitics—Turkey Russia now more aligned than turkey is w nato

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checkmate

LOL.The turkies should be respected if for no other reason than providing the Russians with practice targets with their Gayraktar drones. turkie shoot anyone?

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Pertti

I am a Finn and our sold out globalist politicians were put in their places by CIA, f. ex. the president now. Our prime minister looks like a swedish reality-tv royal. Non of this, or the 1994 EU membership was legal. In Finland, less babies are born now than in the notorious hunger years of the 1850’s. We have a criminal government. So, could they give in to Turkey? The lifting of the arms embargo they already talked about in public, but the extradition of Kurds is more difficult. It might happen, but in secrecy. The media athmosphere here..well, we dont have free media.

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Porc halal ft DJ Bobo

This is what is happening in Romania…the total takeover by the globalists…the media and the political class promote Romanianphobia and idolization of what is not Romanian. They systematically destroy with a sick pleasure everything related to Romanian culture, religion, history, language and (Christian-Orthodox) traditions.

thoughtful

The Kurds were a nomadic people and wandered through many nations. Syria allowed them citizenship as did Iraq and Turkey. These Kurds want to carve out the best portions of these nations for themselves, particularly those richest in natural resources such as oil. Americans want to help them to do it so as to get proxy ownership of said resources. I can understand why nobody would get along with the Kurds. The Russians defence of the Kurds against Turkey, that is much more difficult to get.

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