“Crimea was always Russian!” France’s Marine Le Pen schools CNN

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“Crimea was always Russian!” France’s Marine Le Pen schools CNN

A screenshot from BBC’s video

By Sergey Gladysh; Originally appeared at The Duran

In an interview with CNN’s Christiane Amanpour, France’s National Front party leader and presidential front-runner, Marine Le Pen, said that Crimea was always Russian.

Here is how the conversation went:

Amanpour: Does it not bother you that a big country broke international law and invaded and annexed a small country?

Le Pen: There was a coup d’etat in Ukraine…(interrupted)

Amanpour: That’s what you think?

Le Pen: It’s not just what I think, it’s the reality. There was a coup d’etat. There was an agreement among different nations and the next day this agreement was broken and some people took power…(interrupted)

Amanpour: After the invasion and the annexation…Yes!

Le Pen: There was no invasion of Crimea…(interrupted)

Amanpour: But they [Russia] annexed Crimea! It was part of Ukraine! And the French were part of the deal that guaranteed the independence of Ukraine in 1994.

Le Pen: Crimea was Russian. It has always been Russian…(interrupted)

Amanpour: So it’s fine for you, though? You’re okay with it?

Le Pen: The people [of Crimea] feel Russian. The people decided by a great majority that they wanted to belong to Russia. So we can’t be democratic when it suits us and then reject democracy when you don’t like it…(interrupted)

Amanpour: So you support lifting the sanctions? I’m trying to ask you that. Or should they be conditional to the implementation of the ceasefire agreement known as the Minsk accord?

Le Pen: The sanctions are completely stupid. They have not solved any problems. they haven’t improved the situation at all. All they have done is create major economic problems for the EU. They’re meaningless. Maybe we need to step down? Would we have better peace in the world if we could step back? The President of the United Staes, the President of Russia could end the Cold War, no one else.

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  • Simon Abruzzo

    she’s great, i hope she becomes a president

    • VGA

      In France the presidential elections happen in rounds. So in the final round everyone will stand against Le Pen. With that system it is very hard for someone who is against globalism and the death of Europe as we know it to get in power.

  • Blaubeere

    Disgusting journalist. If I was Le Pen I would stop the interview after being interrupted so often.

    • John Whitehot

      it’s the cnn. would be surprising if they have a single journo who’s not an arrogant lackey or a deluded fool.

    • NeoLeo

      Amanpour made her name back in ’90s in Balkans where she was famous for her sick and disgusting propaganda.

  • chris chuba

    Best part of the exchange IMO, this often gets overlooked when people talk about Ukraine, the fact that Yanukovych agreed to early elections and made other concessions …

    Le Pen: There was a coup d’etat in Ukraine…(interrupted)

    Amanpour: That’s what you think?

    Le Pen: It’s not just what I think, it’s the reality. There was a coup d’etat. There was an agreement among different nations and the next day this agreement was broken and some people took power…(interrupted)

    • John Whitehot

      true. Another thing that’s been completely overlooked (although it was on BBC pages for a while) is that armed protesters opened fire on riot police at the start of Maidan, so to cause lethal response towards the protesters. Of course those gunmen were from western ukraine (Source, again BBC.co.uk)

      • Arthur Smith

        You forgot to mention, that riot police (Berkut) was unarmed and had orders to ignore “provocations”.

  • Alex M

    Putin is evil, but also a brilliant strategist. His plan his to fund far-right nationalists, fascists, populists (and in some cases far-left populists) to take over governments in the West from the inside. He also uses WikiLeaks as hackers to influence these elections. Then once he has enough puppet governments in power (Le Pen in France, Trump in US) he’ll break up the EU and NATO, replacing the liberal democratic world order with a fascist world order. He’ll use the Eurasian Union to control Central Asia and the Caucuses while supporting puppet authoritarian strongmen in Turkey, Libya and Syria so he has control over the flow of refugees into Europe. Upset Russia, refugees flood into your country. Iran is a minor partner, like how Italy was to Nazi Germany. Iran gets a Shi’ite cresecent stretching from Iraq, through Syria to Lebanon and down in Yemen.

    • Charan John

      Wow so actually the EU and US is working with Russia doing all kinds of crazy shit to itself. So that the people will in fact elect in facists to enslave them and allign themselves to the Kremlin?
      I guess that’s why they set Libya on fire because they wanted a puppet that Russia could control as a flood gate in order to destroy themself ???

      • Alex M

        Gaddafi was already a Russian-Chinese aligned dictator and pretty much a maniac. NATO went in to try establishing a western-aligned liberal democracy. Unfortunately they didn’t leave a sufficient troop presence to prevent the Muslim Brotherhood from staging a coup in 2014, reigniting the civil war (prior to that elections had yielded moderate democrats).
        Trump is working with Russia. The EU is currently trying to resist Putin’s plans. What do you think far-right nationalism is if not a euphemism for fascism? WikiLeaks is already hacking Emmanuel Macron. Funny how WikiLeaks only hacks centrist liberals and not far-right politicians like Trump or Le Pen.

        • Hunter1324

          Gaddafi was originally funded by the United States. During the Iran-Iraq War US backed up Iraq under Saddam’s rule with intel and infraestructure. Lybia is a failed state when it used to be one of the most powerfull economies in North Africa dictator not withstanding. Trump periodically threatens one of Russia’s closest geopolitical allies with an invasion.

          I’ll say that I generally disagree with the political stance of most users in the site and that I might not find the site impartial but it takes a special brand of delusion to not question the Western MSM and political decisions. Lest not forget that since the end of the Cold War the USA has been the catalyst of many more conflicts than any other country and the one to cause the biggest ammount of casualties among both the military and the civilian population of said countries.

          • Alex M

            The Shah (who while autocratic, was a pro-western secularist modernizing his country) had just been overthrown by a radical revolutionary Islamist movement which threatened to spread to the rest of the Shia region (Iraq, Bahrain, Gulf coast). This has actually transpired as Iranian-backed Shi’ite Islamists have taken over Iraq, control large part of Yemen, hold substantial power over Syria and virtually control Lebanon via Hezbollah.

            I’m not going to defend every (or even most) foreign policy decisions made by the US during the Cold War. However I’m not talking about the US here. I’m talking about how Iran and Russia are becoming imperialist powers. For all the failings of the US and EU, they’re atleast liberal-democracies who live up to their higher ideals of human rights, international law and altruism at least sometimes (see NATO actions in Gulf War, Bosnia, Kosovo, UN peacekeeping missions). The solution to the West’s failings certainly isn’t demagogic nationalism or far-right fascism.

          • Ronald

            Alex : The Shah was innstalled by the CIA in 1953 . He was a dictator , but he did one very good thing for Iran , he educated the whole country . It has a 70% literacy rate , higher than the USA. Unfortunately in 1977 the Iranian people found out that the Shah was CIA installed , and so the revolution of 79 . It was a bit messy , students took over the US embassy , and held Americans hostage for a year, until the Canadians smuggled them out. If you look at a map the Shia occupy Lebanon , Syria , Iraq and Iran . They are surrounded by Sunni’s , Turkey ,Jordan , Saudi , Qatar , Pakistan , Afghanistan etc , oh except Yemen , where the Saudi’s and Americans are slaughtering them. The Shia cresent is at present fighting for their lives against the American and Saudi backed Al Qaeda and ISIS jihadists . Your “radical revolutionary movement” was just some old Iranian clerics ranting on about their anger at the US for having the gaul to interfere in their government and oil .
            Russia and Syria have been ally’s for over 35 years , and nether Turkey , the US or the EU “coalition” have any legal or moral right to be in Syria.
            And if you look a little deeper , you will find that Gaddafi was loved by his people , free education , free medical etc . his problem was he was too good. He wanted to create a new gold currency , the big bank boys said NO. Hillary said OK , went in and took the gold 170 million tons !
            Read a bit more , its interesting , just don;t get stuck following some ideology.

          • esathegreat

            “they’re atleast liberal-democracies who live up to their higher ideals of human rights, international law and altruism”

            lol fool

          • Alex M

            All talk, no action. Slapping a few sanctions on Iran is just to appease his base. In reality Trump’s giving Putin exactly what he wants in the Middle East, Syria. To the extent Iran benefits from that is purely at Putin’s discretion and whether Putin decides to expel Iran from Syria or let them stay as junior partner in his regional sphere of influence. He’s also openly allying with people like Nigel Farage and other far-right nationalists hoping to break up the EU and NATO.
            Actions taken by the US in the 1960s aren’t really relevant anymore. Gadafi quickly became anti-western as well as aligned with Russia & China (sponsoring terrorist attacks abroad). The intervention could have worked if troops had remained to stabilize the situation as the 2012 and 2014 Libyan elections both resulted in moderates and secular democrats winning the elections. Besides, the initial uprising and civil war was a result of an indigenous revolution not outside intervention. Maybe Gadafi wouldn’t have fallen but there’d certainly still been an insurgency, civil war, chaos etc.

    • ruca

      Is this sarcasm or blatant stupidity?

      • NeoLeo

        Schizophrenia most likely, Alex Mad is a raving lunatic.

    • John

      Say whatever you wish Alex, it okay …………….. except, you better not mess with Santa Claus!

  • Alex M

    Down with Russian-backed fascists. EmmanuelMacron2017! This site is a Russian-funded propaganda site (like RT, Sputnik etc).

    • ruca

      You are a fool Alex M(oron). Move out of your Mom’s apartment and go get your first job. Stop screwing the pooch.

      • Alex M

        Is that all you’ve got. Cheap ad-hominem attacks?

        • NeoLeo

          That’s what you deserve troll… all you’ve got is cheap, retarded, nazi BS.

          • Alex M

            Far-right nationalism (fascism) and Eurasianist revanchism is the stated ideology of Alexander Duglin, Putin’s ideological mentor. White-nationalism is also the ideology of Steve Bannon, Trump’s ideological mentor. I’m not making this up, conservatives and liberals alike have made this observation.

          • NeoLeo

            Yeah right, ‘conservatives’ – neocon bloodthirsty fascist psychopaths like J.McCain and ‘liberals’ like Soros, nothing but goebbelsian russophobic rubbish and insane conspiracy theories…

          • John Whitehot

            Ideological mentors? lololololololol. How old are you? 15?

        • John Whitehot

          lol, you started with an ad-hominem comment. It does not necessarily mean an attack against a single person.

          • Alex M

            I explained why I thought Putin was evil with actual examples ( his global strategy to break the liberal democratic world and expand his sphere of influence worldwide).

          • Bob

            The ‘liberal democratic world’ is doing just fine, aggressively expanding it’s sphere of influence in last decades into – Croatia/Bulgaria/Romania/Iraq and more recently into Libya/Montenegro/Brazil/Honduras, not forgetting current failing attempt to capture Syria. Take a look at a map of Europe and the NATO expansion toward Russia in last two decades – the large number of bases clustered around Russia. Lay off the kool-aid a little.

          • John Whitehot

            no, you did not. your comment is (Copy and paste):

            “Down with Russian-backed fascists. EmmanuelMacron2017! This site is a Russian-funded propaganda site (like RT, Sputnik etc).”

    • John

      Whatever.

    • Thom Kinoshta

      then surrender to islam

      • Alex M

        What part of Putin supporting Hezbollah and the Islamic Republic of Iran makes you think he’s against Islam?

    • EL ZORRO

      And you are NAZI-backed and funded by George Soros, spreading CONCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS/CIA propaganda.

    • Bob

      Don’t like it, then simply leave – no comment required.

  • Niyazov11

    What a liar. Crimea isn’t Russian neither the referendum was real. It was held without any independent observers and was held under the shadow of the gun of an invasion. Crimea didn’t come under Russian control until it was invaded and captured by the Russian Empire in late 18th century. Before that, it was part of the Crimean Tatar Khanate and many other empires and nomads and settlers before that including Scythians, Byzantine, Romans etc. The Crimean Tatars are a part of Ukraine though many have been living outside it since Stalin purged them. And controlling it for about one a half century doesn’t give Russia any right to seize it whenever it want. Crimea is Ukrainian and always was.

    • John Whitehot

      Crimea has never been ukrainian, and will never be. Incidentially, it will never return under the ukrainian flag too.

      • Niyazov11

        Yes it was, Crimean Tatars are a part of Ukraine and ruled it longer than any Russian state. Anyway it will return to Ukraine by either its own “actual” accord or Russia will give it up to avoid sanctions and avoid getting further boxed in by NATO.

        • NeoLeo

          “Crimean Tatars are a part of Ukraine” wtf that means, crimean tatars were under the rule of the ottoman empire, so called ‘Ukraine’ never existed… Tatars were bunch of foreign slavers terrorizing Christian population for centuries.

        • Ronald

          Not Russian , or Ukrainian myself , but even from a distant perspective , it is clear to see Crimea and probably the south and east areas will end up rejoining Russia . By your map , the white and yellow colored areas . I do like your idea of a referendum , but not only in Crimea , but across all of Ukraine . But that will never happen , as the NATO powers know they would loose half of it. I have read that in the western half , the yanks are buying up and shipping out the top soil on a massive scale , hope its just miss – information .

          • Niyazov11

            I agree with your assessment about the referendums. I favor a free and full referendum on all territories where there is at least a significant demand monitored by all observers including Russia, locals, UN, EU etc.

      • Alex M

        Crimea was part of the Ukraine until Russian tanks and troops entered in 2014. That’s what makes the Russian annexation illegal under international law. Crimea was illegally occupied by Russian troops when the referendum took place. This means any referendum is illegitimate. This is crucial, even if the indigenous Crimean Tatars did not exist and the majority wanted to secede, sovereign borders and territorial integrity are protected by international law. If we throw that principle away then Russia itself could be broken up into multiple warring separatist nations, all of which want independence (e.g Chechnya). Extreme exceptions can be made in cases of genocide (e.g Kosovo) but that was certainly not happening in Ukraine.

        • NeoLeo

          “indigenous Crimean Tatars” they are not indigenous, they were foreign/muslim invaders (and slavers!); there was no genocide in Kosovo, you are completely clueless; also, if borders are unchangeable then Ukraine or USA should not exist at all (or 90% of modern countries), but of course int. law exist only when America says so, otherwise there are ‘exceptions’… overall – you are not just an imbecile, you are an imbecile and a hypocrite. And a sick russophobe of course.

        • EL ZORRO

          Genocide is exactly what is happening in Donetsk, Luhansk with the massacres of their civilian population by the U.S VASSAL of Kiev.

        • Ronald

          When Gorbachev gave Crimea to the Ukraine, it was with a Russian naval and army base, all with long term leases . So the Russian troops were already present when the CIA/Soros coup happened . The western sponsored coup was the illegal action taken .
          An election in the Ukraine is never demanded , by fixed minds , only the claim that the election in Crimea was , invalid .
          Russian and Ukraine history goes back hundreds of years . Kiev was the capitol of Russia for over 300 years . The west is really interfering in Russian internal affairs .
          A real UN sponsored election , with Russian and German oversight would be a real solution . The reason its not allowed is because the Ukraine would vote to rejoin Russia . Certainly the Donetsk , Luhansk areas would . There is no need to take this situation into war . The democratic west , should allow a real democratic vote.

          ,

          • Branko Nisov

            Soviet President Nikita Khrushchev (Ukrainian)gave Crimea to Ukraine like a gift in 1954 otherwise after Russian -Turkey war 1783 Crimea was Russian territory and never be Ukrainian territory.

          • Ronald

            Thank you for your correction .

        • Bob

          The ‘genocide’ in Kosovo is questionable – look up Racak massacre – that was what triggered US/ NATO intervention, many non partisan observers have now concluded that KLA most likely faked the event with bodies from firefights.
          If you are going to reference Kosovo as worthy exception to International Law, then for several reasons, legal and historical, your broader point about Crimea becomes invalidated.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C4%8Dak_massacre

          http://www.globalresearch.ca/no-evidence-of-genocide-or-ethnic-cleansing-in-kosovo/625

          • NeoLeo

            It’s not questionable, there was absolutely NO genocide in Kosovo (against albanians), not even NATO tribunal in Hague ever claimed so… their narrative was ‘humanitarian catastrophe’/caused by Nato bombing btw/ but not genocide, Alex M is just full of shite. Racak ‘massacre’ was questionable (used as a casus belli for illegal NATO aggression), a few dead terrorists, nothing else.

            Actually the real genocide was committed against Serbs, AFTER NATO occupation, when Albanians (including those from Albania) almost completely eradicated entire Serbian population (except in N.Kosovo): there were some 40.000 Serbs in Pristina (capital of Kosovo) before NATO intervention – there are less than 400 now. Basically 99% of Serbian population was expelled or killed, Albanians destroyed Serbian/christain churches, centuries old, even graveyards…. the very definition of genocide, fully supported by NATO.

          • Bob

            Aware of that but being diplomatic to try and suggest to Alex M that the spoon fed NATO ‘narrative’ he has ingested for over a decade, may be just as wrong as all the others western governments have since claimed. Similar in nature to the repeated ‘narratives’ over Iraq – Libya – Ukraine – Syria, ie, claims of urgent military intervention required by unsubstantiated claims of either WMD’s, or government atrocities against civilians – that eventually always results in land grabs by NATO.
            It’s same repeated narrative, but because Kosovo was first and pre-Iraq, many in west fail to connect the pattern, and don’t apply the same skepticism to older ingrained Kosovo narrative as they apply post Iraq WMD disinformation narrative and those since.

        • Carl Coupet

          Are you stupid Alex, where did the Russian tanks come from? Were they flown there? How many shots were fired, was anyone killed or wounded? Even one (except you maybe, cause surely you were there holding the fort!)

          • Alex M

            Nobody was killed when Nazi Germany illegally annexed Austria. It’s still an illegal conquest that violated the sovereign, internationally-recognised borders of a European country.

    • PZIVJ1943

      Polls taken from 2008 showed the Crimean population was in favor of joining Russia. The numbers are even higher now, even among Tatars. Maybe they should hold another referendum, the peoples will does mater.

      • Niyazov11

        But even going by that poll ans any other survet after it, a support of 96% is highly ludicrous. The Tatars boycotted it as well. So I think the referendum should be held again, monitored by international and independent observes as well as all political parties. If there is a majority support, then Russia has no reason to bother. Once a fair and legal referendum, not under the shadow of a gun and takeover is held, then it can be legal.

        • NeoLeo

          You mean your ukrainain ‘elections’ were under the shadow of gun and bloody neonazi & terrorist putsch, so this current ukrainian government is completely illegal and illegitimate, including Porky.

          • Niyazov11

            The only shadow of a gun was the threat by pro-Russian separatists and anarchists in Donbass and Lugansk. And the Ukranian elections were attended by international and independent observes unlike the “referendum”. Deriding and deligitimization attempts of Ukranian governemnt won’t create a diversion from Crimea.

    • Bob

      People in glass houses – Ukraine’s other, west, north and south territorial borders are made up of areas that have significant Polish, Hungarian, Romanian and Belarus minorities, all from quite different language groups and histories, and all those Ukrainian common borders are potentially up for grabs under any shifts in political climates.

      • Niyazov11

        Not really. The “other borders” are made up of a high number of ethnic Ukrainians who speak Ukrainian. Even the east is made up of ethic Ukrainian speaking Russian. A language doesn’t make anyone ethnic Russian. Only Crimea has mostly ethnic Russians. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a4ef3b5fbb8bb1f01e5cd5d671ff1f6380f06832b99ba811137d74c684eca9d1.png But ethnicity is no justification for annexing when you want. A fair and free referendum monitored by independent observers should be held unlike the “last time”.

        • Bob

          ‘Mostly Ukrainian-speaking’. lol
          Seriously, they are bilingual in many border regions and use idiom most appropriate to relevant interactions. That doesn’t mean their ethnic affiliations aren’t toward other states though. The Polish minority and Polish government are most likely candidates in long term to seek opportunity for changes – largely due to Ukrainian’s 1940’s ethnic cleansing of large numbers of Poles in Volhynia and East Galicia under the Ukrainian Bandera-led fascist regime, that rankles Poles to this day.

          • Niyazov11

            So they are “bilingual speaking” now. Many people have a second language. Especially in post-soviet countries, Russian is still spoken as a second language although not all might speak it. Does that mean Russia has right over every country that was a part of USSR or Russian Empire and can do whatever it like? Most of the people speak Ukrainian as predominant language and are ethnic Ukranians. Miss Le Pen here however thinks it is okay to annex Crimea because they’re “ethnic Russians”. You are talking about some World War II ethnic cleansing by nationalist militias to justify acts of Russia. Did you know that in 1897 Crimean Tatars formed the majority in Crimea? What made Crimea majority Russian and Russian outnumber Tatars 2 times in a matter of 3 decades and Tatars not even being in Crimea by the 1950s? Mass-migration and forced deportation respectively. No Tatar was recorded in further consensus after the deportations and more than 30,000 died because of Soviet policies or were killed. So to whom does Crimea rightfully belong to?

          • NeoLeo

            Lets say your numbers are true and not from EuroMaidanHeilBandera.com (I’m lazy to check tbh) so what? Kiev was Russian centuries before your poor, innocent NON-Crimean Tatars came from Mongolia, slaughtering, raping, enslaving Christian population, that’s basically the only thing they did for centuries, their entire economy was based on raids, terror and slavery… and that’s how they became the majority in Crimea in the first place. So to whom does Crimea rightfully belong to? Not to them for sure. Scythians do not exits anymore… maybe Greeks? Hey return them Istanbul/Constantinople first! And many other cities in Turkey. No?

            And then the poor, little Tatars supported Hitler during his ‘crusade’ to exterminate all slavic people, but unfortunately for them – he lost. Oh poor little Tatars, and poor little Hitler! btw Ukrainians never gave a fk for Tatars but suddenly they love them sooooo much, they sing songs about them, and weep deeply over their sad fate… how touching. But the truth is: tatars don’t give a fk for Ukraine, a few of them were bought with saudi/qatar money and supported by Kiev, Washington and Istanbul, but most of them don’t really care – at least they have bigger pensions in Russia.

          • Bob

            You are evidently a Muslim, who has a tedious axe to grind with Russia. Largely because Russian intervention in Syria finally stopped a Sunni Islamist armed insurgency – always Muslim Brotherhood based – from any remote chance of victory. Incidentally, your comments would strongly suggest you have Islamist leanings yourself, given your obsessive anti Russian fixation over the turn of events.
            The point is, you don’t know much about the complex ethnic histories of central and eastern Europe – old regions like Galicia. Very much doubt you particularly care about Ukrainians and the varied European ethnic demographics that constitute the current Ukrainian state – you merely singled out Tartars because they are, well, surprise, surprise, Muslims.
            You are aligning yourself with the current Kiev regime because it opposes Russia. It’s that simple. You are operating on the old short term maxim, that – my enemies, enemy, is my ally.
            But in all your anti Russian zeal you failed to note that Ukraine is fundamentally Christian, Catholic and Orthodox, in region and state. A religion you previously disparaged on these very forum pages.
            You are evidently a Muslim, with apparent Islamist leanings, who is dismayed that the GCC’s Islamist proxy militants have failed in Syria. You blame Russia for these events, as they indeed reversed all of the Islamist’s gains from pre-2015, and you have developed a virulent strain of Russo-phobia as consequence.

          • Niyazov11

            So I am a Muslim who has an axe to grind with Russia just because I oppose its illegal annexation. You know you are evidently an excuse-maker who brings up another accusation. This is the kind of behavior you Putino-crazies indulge in. I singled out Tatars because of two simple reasons – Crimean Tatars have been in Crimea for more than 7 centuries, ruling it longer than any Russian state. Tatars were the majority before becoming a minority and not at all existing in Crimea per the Soviet census. The Tatars have been living in Crimea even before they were Muslims, I guess you didn’t know that as well.

            I have no fake “Russo-phobia” or any hate for “Christian/Catholic/Orthodox”. Of course I do respond equally when someone attacks me or my people. Even if we are to go back to ancient history, the first peoples who came in Crimea were Scythians, Cimmerians, both who were related to the Turkic people as well as the Greeks who colonised it. So what wrong am I talking about here? I even detailed the whole history about it. Instead of making up fake accusations, why don’t you accept the truth? A new referendum for Crimes should be held and there should be no shadow of any gun this time, no boycotts, voted by all peoples and monitored by international observes should be held. Not like the last time when a farce was held. If you are so sure that most people in Crimea support you, then why the lollygagging? A free and fair referendum, that’s what should happen. Until it does, Crimea belongs to Ukraine. I stand up for what is right. You are a very dishonest man.

          • Bob

            Crimea is gone, it’s Russian. Tartars are minority, around ten percent of population today.
            As aside, when you repeatedly screech ‘Christc**cksucker’ at others in Disqus forums, as you do, it’s a basic given you hate Christians.

          • Niyazov11

            First thing first – Crime still exists and annexation doesn’t mean it doesn’t anymore, neither is simple majority a reason. As for “christcocksucker” I only say that to those who pass insults and attacks against Muslims as I already said earlier. Why don’t you notice that? Or are you too busy conjuring up excuses?

          • Bob

            Excuses? All I see is you excusing your use of term ‘Christc**ksucker’ against Christians on Disqus – your use therein invalidates anything more you have to say, period – no excuses.

          • Niyazov11

            What I said wasn’t an excuse, it was the truth unlike you who let’s be honest only is saying it for political purposes. Whatever you want to say or make up about is irrelevant, when someone tosses insults at Muslims, I’ll reply back. Be sure of that.

          • NeoLeo

            ‘So to whom does Crimea rightfully belong to?’ Certainly NOT to those muslim turko-mongolian invaders, who slaughtered, pillaged, enslaved local Christian population for centuries, their entire economy was based on raids, terror and slavery (that’s how they became ‘majority’ in the first place). They also supported Hitler in his ‘crusade’ to exterminate Slavic population, poor little innocent Tatars (and poor little innocent Hitler… and Bandera); now we have maidan-regime clowns crying for Tatars, singing songs and weeping deeply…. how touching. LOL! But the truth is: Ukrainians never liked them, and they never liked Ukraine, a few activists and fanatics bought with Saudi/Qatar money and supported by Istanbul, WashingtonDC and Kiev do not represent anyone but themselves…. most Tatars don’t care, at least they have bigger pensions in Russia.

            So again: to whom does Crimea rightfully belong to? Russia of course. Even Greeks have more historical claims then Ukraine or tatars. Speaking of Greeks, how about Istanbul, Smyrna, Trabzon? Northern Cyprus?? No? How about Kiev? Or New York? Huh?

          • Niyazov11

            Yeah certainly except the Tatars you’re blaming were there in Crimea long before they converted to Islam. Not to mention even the Russians indulged in slavery and sold their own Christian kinsmen whether Russian, German etc. As for supporting Hitler, more Tatars served in the Soviet Red Army than in the Nazi Army. But I bet that wasn’t told to you. But of course, that isn’t of interest to you, you want to justify Russia’s actions. Despite this, their leaders were killed even before World War II. As for Saudi/Qatar dirty money,the Tatars never had much of Salafism and there are only very small Salafist communities just as there are Shia communities of Tatars.

            So to whom does Crimea rightfully belong to? Those who have been living in Crimea for more than 7 centuries before Russians came and even before the Turkic-speakrrs converted to Islam. You want to talk about Russia, but did you know Russians themselves migrated to Russia? Besides as I already said, Crimea was ocvupied by many powers in history. As for Greeks, they “colonised” parts of Crimea and even Scythians and Cimmerians, a people related and livinh alongside the Turkic peoples at the same time. Now about Istanbu, Smyrna and Trabzon, did you know Greeks colonised Anatolia as well. But before that many ancient people like Hittites settled in Anatolia and Greeks only occupied Western Anatolia until the Roman Empire? Lying annexation supporter.

    • Ho Pw

      Crimea belong to Russia. It was handed over to Ukraine during the USSR period when Ukraine was part of Russia. Since the illegal US Neocon installed Ukraine govt want to separate from Russia and join EU, i think Russia have every right to take back Crimea. But Russia never use strong arm tactic to take back. She allow the people of Crimea to decide. Through free and fair election, the people of Crimea chose to be part of Russia. You can cry, beat your chest like Tarzen or knock your head onto the wall, Crimea is Russian territory. No CNN. BBC or any other western bullshit media is going to change it.

      • Niyazov11

        The only one Crimea belongs to is Ukraine. Russia didn’t conquer it till late 18th century. That’s a fact. Crimean Tatars have ruled it longer than any Russian state, for over 3 centuries. That is another fact. Crimean Tatars started coming back under Ukranian rule after being purged by the Soviets even though the Tatars formed the majority of population of Crimea before 20th century. The Tatars didn’t choose Russia to come back to. As for free and fair election, the Putin tyrant and his cronies who invade and go wherever they want and hold a “free and fair election” which the Russian media or their allies trumpet, the only election is one held under shadows of gun after an illegal annexation with many not voting and even boycotting. Not to mention these Russian invaders and their “rebels” also threatening the Ukranian 2014 elections. The Crimean Tatar Mejlis was banned as “anti-national” and “extremist” just for opposing the Russian annexation and calling for a boycott of referendum, despite never having encouraged or supported any extremist or violent organizations like Russia which supports the violent anti-Ukranian rebels and tyrant Sharia-law implementing Ramzan Kadyrov and Taliban while accusing others of supporting terrorists. And this is something neither the lying Russian state media or their allies will tell you, nor will ever try to accept the truth.

    • Ho Pw

      If you want to go back in history, perhaps we should start with the Red Indian’s land.

      • Niyazov11

        Too bad I am not an American even.

    • Ho Pw

      Yes, what a liar you are. There were many observers from the EU. From live video clips the world witness a democratic election taking place. The result was a near 100% decision to return Crimea to its motherland. So bye bye Ukraine. A wise decision made by the majority of the Crimea people. Just take a good look at Ukraine now. The country has turned into a beggar. No more Russia oil on credit. Russia is still waiting for the payment of the $3 billion oil purchase. Have to beg the EU for money. Ukraine is now a failed state. Period. Due to desperation, the people of Ukraine will one day seize power from the corrupted Neo-Nazis govt installed by the US.

      • Niyazov11

        I know about those “observers”. Those were Russian state reports. There’s no announcement or report of EU sending observers by itself, the supposed “observers” even were openly anti-American and pro-Russian scum parties, nor UN or OSCE or the Crimean Mejlis or Ukrainian government monitored it. The whole thing was a fraud and when even Russian journalists and citizens admit they voted without any restriction, it leaves little to doubt.

    • Ho Pw

      The observers are independent. Period. If you want to go that far back in history just to win the argument perhaps we should start with the USA. The American Indians never offer the “white men” their lands. It was exactly like what you have mentioned, “under the shadow of the gun of an invasion”. The indigenous people of the land now called America was invaded and occupied by the “white men”. Next is about Palestine. The name “Palestine” and “Palestina” occur four times in the Old Testament of the King James Bible(1611), (1)What have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Sidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? (Joel 3:4a = 4:4a Heb). (2)The people shall hear, and be afraid sorrow shall take hold of the inhabitants of Palestina (Exod 15:14). (3)Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina (Isa 14:29a). (4)Howl, O gate; cry, O city, thou whole Palestina, art dissolved (Isa 13:31a). But “Palestine” does not occur in the New Testament. According to Greek historian Herodotus(ca. 484-425) he says Palestine is “part of Syria” along the Mediterranean coast. The Roman Emperor Hadrian in A.D 135 called it “Provincia Syria Palestina”. There are people who argue that Syria was created out of the Ottoman Empire which is not true. Even land called Syria was mentioned during Jesus time or maybe even further back.

      • Niyazov11

        Independent my dirty behind. They’re all anti-West and not official in any sense. Probably just thugs hired by Putin in the name of “EU observers”. We know how independent they are. Crimea has been inhabiter by Crimeans, whether they be whites or Turks or else. The Tatars have lived there since they worshiped Turanism. Ukraine has been settled by various peoples long before the Nordic people even migrated to Russia and settled there. But even then, the whole referendum was a farce where people from outside of Crimea, Russian citizens and sympathisers voted. It was held under shadows of guns. It must be reheld!

  • gfsdyughjgd .

    Amanpour is always terrorist supporter.Shame on her for interrupting a very professional woman.

  • Antikapitalista

    The correct answer to the intitial question:

    “Does it not bother you that a big country broke international law and invaded and annexed a small country?”

    would be:

    “Yes, it bothers me that a big country broke international law and invaded a small country in violation of many United Nations Security Council resolutions (353, 354, 355, 357, 358, 360, 365, 367), yet there have been no sanctions enacted against the country.”

    Christiane Amanpour seems so stupid and self-conceited that such a reply would probably leave her perplexed (inasmuch as she is actually capable of thinking, and not just reeling off a script and mindlessly parroting the Western propaganda.)

    In case this did not cure Amanpour’s arrogance and did not stop pushing Amanpour’s agenda, Marine could have flooded Amanpour with facts and then pretended to have misunderstood her question—explaining that there was the Agreement on settlement of political crisis in Ukraine brokered by the Weimar Triangle on 21 February 2014, which mandated that the government would not introduce a state of emergency and that the government and the opposition were to refrain from the use of force; the government withdrew its security forces and the following day the violent Euromaidan mobbers attacked and stormed the government buildings. Following these developments, Russian president Vladimir Vladimirovič Putin tasked his security officials with rescuing Ukrainian president Viktor Fedorovyč Janukovyč. It was only several (4) days later that the Russian security forces were deployed in Crimea (outside Sevastopoľ).