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Bucha Investigation Contradicts Itself, Confirms AFU’s Atrocities

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Bucha Investigation Contradicts Itself, Confirms AFU's Atrocities

A small metal dart, called fléchette, found embedded in the body of man killed in Bucha.

Forensic doctors discover fléchettes – rarely used in modern warfare – in bodies found in mass graves in Bucha, “The Guardian” reported.

Dozens of civilians who allegedly died during presence of the Russian army at the Ukrainian city of Bucha were killed by tiny metal arrows from shells of a type fired by artillery, forensic doctors claimed. Despite the anti-Russian point of view presented in the research, the results show that these were the AFU who shelled civilians in Bucha.

Pathologists and coroners who are carrying out postmortems on bodies found in mass graves in the region north of Kyiv, where Russian forces have been accused of atrocities, said they had found small metal darts, called fléchettes, embedded in people’s heads and chests.

“We found several really thin, nail-like objects in the bodies of men and women and so did others of my colleagues in the region,” Vladyslav Pirovskyi, a Ukrainian forensic doctor, told “The Guardian”. “It is very hard to find those in the body, they are too thin. The majority of these bodies come from the Bucha-Irpin region.”

Bucha Investigation Contradicts Itself, Confirms AFU's Atrocities

Experts from the forensic department of France’s national gendarmerie and Ukrainian doctors carrying bodies of civilians killed in Bucha.

Independent weapons experts who reviewed pictures of the metal arrows found in the bodies confirmed that they were fléchettes, an anti-personnel weapon widely used during the first world war.

These small metal darts are contained in tank or field gun shells. Each shell can contain up to 8,000 fléchettes. Once fired, shells burst when a timed fuse detonates and explodes above the ground.

Fléchettes, typically between 3cm and 4cm in length, release from the shell and disperse in a conical arch about 300m wide and 100m long. On impact with a victim’s body, the dart can lose rigidity, bending into a hook, while the arrow’s rear, made of four fins, often breaks away causing a second wound.

Although human rights groups have long sought a ban on fléchette shells, the munitions are not prohibited under international law. However, the use of imprecise lethal weapons in densely populated civilian areas is a violation of humanitarian law.

“According to a number of witnesses in Bucha, fléchette rounds were fired by artillery a few days before Russian forces withdrew from the area at the end of March”, – “The Guardian” reported.

According to Neil Gibson, a weapons expert at the UK-based Fenix Insight group, who has reviewed the photos of the fléchettes found in Bucha, the metal darts came from a 122mm ZSh1 artillery round. It fits the D-30 howitzers, which is in service with both Russia and Ukraine.

“Another uncommon and rarely seen projectile,” said Gibson on Twitter. “This time it’s the equivalent of the US ‘Beehive’ series of Anti-personnel (APERS) projectiles … It operates like a true shrapnel projectile, but is filled with fléchettes and a wax binder.”

The same fléchettes were used by the AFU in 2014 in the LPR:

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Fléchettes have been used as ballistic weapons since the first world war. Dropped by the then-novel airplanes to attack infantry, the lethal metal darts were able to pierce helmets. They were not widely used during the second world war, but re-emerged in the Vietnam war, when the US employed a version of fléchette loads, packed into plastic cups.

“Fléchettes are an anti-personnel weapon designed to penetrate dense vegetation and to strike a large number of enemy soldiers,” according to Amnesty International. “They should never be used in built-up civilian areas.”

A team of 18 experts from the forensic department of France’s national gendarmerie, alongside a team of forensic investigators from Kyiv, have started documenting the situation after the withdrawal of Russian troops from Bucha.

“We are seeing a lot mutilated (disfigured) bodies,” said Pirovsky. “A lot of them had their hands tied behind their backs and shots in the back of their heads. There were also cases with automatic gunfire, like six to eight holes on the back of victims. And we have several cases of cluster bombs’ elements embedded in the bodies of the victims.”

Evidence collected by experts during a visit to Bucha, Hostomel and Borodianka, and reviewed by independent weapons experts, showed that cluster munitions and powerful unguided bombs were used in the region. They killed a large number of civilians and destroyed at least eight buildings. These types of weapons are banned by the majority of countries worldwide.

Bucha Investigation Contradicts Itself, Confirms AFU's Atrocities

Bucha after demining by Ukrainian troops

Talking about artillery shelling, this rules out any version that interprets the events in Bucha as “premeditated genocide of peaceful Ukrainians”. A lot of evidences, such as the “scattered” position of the corpses, confirmed the contradiction.

As soon as the Russian Ministry of Defence claimed the decision to withdraw from the Kiev and Chernihiv regions, the AFU heavily shelled Russian positions in the towns in the Kiev region with artillery. The investigation confirmed that civilians were killed as a result of artillery shelling. The flechettes could be used both by the Russian and Ukrainian artillery. Russian forces deployed in Bucha could not shell on their own positions. Thus, the civilians were killed during the clashes by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

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Leland

Troops of Russia and LPR defeated the enemy in Rubizhne, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have heavy losses, – Kadyrov

The Akhmat special forces, together with the reconnaissance units of the 2nd Army Corps of the LPR, attacked the last positions of the Ukrainians in the city, inflicting huge losses on them. The last group of Nazis abandoned their fortified positions and hastily left the line of operations. Now units of the Army of Russia and the LPR are clearing the basement and residential premises of the buildings of the city of Rubizhnoye, finishing off the remnants of Bandera.

Clyde

https://www.linkpicture.com/q/FRMbFzjX0AAddkI.jpeg

Clyde

Ukrotard crying and crying! Spoof Clyde username because Clyde make fun of failed Ukrainian CIA project.

Hey

No matter how many man die on UA side, more will come. They have 10 million guys for the meat grinding, Russia has only 200k. Wars are won via strategy.

Patrick

You’re an idiot. Russia has 1 million active soldiers in the armed forces with 2 million reserve forces. A total of 48 million citizens are at the legal age and fitness to fight for the Russian military if needed.

Martin Rapavý

Yeah, that is what I call a proper calculation… for meat grinding. What a wonderful genocidal strategy, indeed… I must have been the winning result of a contest for depopulating Ukraine.

Hey

If anyone is interested at RF plans and what stage 2 means, here is an illustration: https://www.linkpicture.com/q/9_469.jpg As we can see, thanks to Putin and him blocking generals to advance using modern warfare and carpet bombing, Russia is still stuck on the start of the phase.

Peter The Ungrateful

Idiots claiming to know the plans m(

Carpet bombing is a war crime, imbecile. Good thing there are actual human(e) beings in charge of operations and not the likes of you.

Hey

Well, at least putting your solders in an endless trench war from which none will come sane(if alive), and destroying already damaged economy and therefore hurting your civilian population, while being pushed back by inferior army is not a war crime. Still something to pat yourself in the back for supporting putin.

Peter The Ungrateful

What reports are you reading? Of course they are not interested in trench wars, which is why the artillery softens them up before they advance, hence the “slow pace” of said advance. But keep looking through your Putin-hater lens. Newsflash: Putin is not the one making the plans, his generals are and they know what they are doing.

Hey

RF and pro Russian reports. I’m not sure what do you mean by not interested in trench wars, since on all fronts both armies are in the trench war(both side are in trenches, using artillery on eachother, the slowest and most primitive way of combat, but the one which destroy solder mentally the quickest). Putin is the main commander as a president, and he overridden many plans already, one even publicly when Shoigu said to attack azovstal but Putin denied. Not a single plan or strategy can be applied without Putin’s signature, read about Russian law.

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Peter The Ungrateful

Where do you get this notion of trench war? 1914 called, they want their tactics back.

You read too much into Putin’s orders. Look at the footage of him giving the order to not storm Azovstal. It is quite obvious that it was somewhat a rehearsed appearance. He must be seen to give that order. But I bet you his general staff had advised him that it is no use and would be a costly exercise. In the end he made a foregone decision for the press.

Or look at it this way, the military advisors asked him to switch tactics: “look, this is bogging us down, binds to much man power, it will be bloody and cost a lot of good men their lives, just starve them out, they have nowhere to go, it is the wise decision, it will even free up a lot of personnel for the rest of the Donbass operation.” And he basically just said: “You’re right. Make it so.”

Let me stress again that Putin is not Adolf “Generalissimo” Hitler that interfered with the actual generals and micromanaged the war effort in WW II – look how that went down. Putin is not a military man and knows it. So he is wise enough to delegate the analysis and planning to the generals, who get payed to do this.

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N.N.

Rehearsed or not, it also allows him to show mercy to civilians, which might help his image.

Peter The Ungrateful

Maybe, but at the time there was no talk about civilians in Azovstal IIRC. That came later. I don’t think he has an image problem at the moment, at least not in Russia. And this “photo op” was aimed at the Russian audience. Russians, I am sure, don’t believe the stories of “genocidal indiscriminate targeting of civilians” – such reporting is forbidden by law, for it is knowingly spreading false information aimed at discrediting the Russian military.

Putin bitches tears taste like heaven

Lmao and you know all that how by holding Putin s coco in your Mouth 24/7. Let me tell you something just because you swallow his midget cum does not mean you know what his thinking. Now the russian generals have come forward with phase two objectives that go from transnitstria to kharkiv, and yes Putin just reverse an order from shoigu for everyone to see, what he s thinking os irrelevant thís is what he wanted to be show, those are facts. And i still remember the boys treatment he Gave to that FSB Minion sergey

Froggy

I was hoping he will comment on the use of Agent Orange in Vietnam….Bloody idiot!

jorge

Well, Louhansk and Kherson are almost all in the pocket, Zaporijia is in 70/80%, Donetsk in 50/60% and Kharkiv in 30%, not bad for two months, and not killing everybody à la yankee. By the way, what shall be the phase III?

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Hey

Not bad for two months if literal US ground forces with M1A2sep3 tanks and personnel were defending the place, and not conscripts with AK47s. Also, Donetsk in 50/60% was already like that on March 1st, Kharkiv in 30% was already like that on March 5th, I’m talking about no advances for the last two months.

jorge

Go see better about Donetsk, and the bones and nerfs of the ukrainian regime army are banderites, other nazis, occidental military personnel and mercenaries, more, 400.000 men have been, since 2014, in the front east fighting Donetsk and Luhansk.

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Ricardo2000

Things would be different, if they wren’t so much the same. Ukrainian defence is based in Switzerland and designed to protect and enlarge Swiss bank accounts. Russian army offence is based on reality, the rescue of harmless civilians, and the defence of their lives and cities.

The world will be a better and safer place when the White West surrenders to Russia. Putin has heard all the promises, watched the treaties signed, and quickly ignored. He knows of the racist genocides committed and planned. It won’t be the vacuous excuses of White Western academics that define this war. It will be blunt demands and brutal facts on the ground that outline Ukraine’s public defeat. This war will end with Russian tanks shaking the ground at western borders.

MaidanISIS

What “investigation”? by those Ukro-degenerates who killed them, plus their British mentors?

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Peter The Ungrateful

French mentors, but yes, ask Dexter to investigate his victims’ demise.

Rodriguez

https://i.ibb.co/B4xhd5P/7tyzoxce5yk81.jpg

Time for plan B

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Death to the ukraine

(((The soros times)))

Dean

Cope harder same faggot. Why no more of your dumbass emojis: 🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷^^^^^***

Clown of Kiev

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Ragnar

Looks like Zelensky

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It is Zelensky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv_WWzjrUrI&ab_channel=TikTokART

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jens holm

He is verry sexy. We need more Ukras like him in Denmark.

Ricardo2000

That’s great news as millions more are coming. They won’t ever be allowed back. Not even with a tourist visa.

Ed Slayer

iTS ” ELENSKY “.

Hey

Hahah, I wanted to post that image but couldn’t find it. Good job!

jimbim

Nazi propaganda.

Freelance Intelligence Analyst

Lol… fun pic, but reality is the other way around and you know it.

Vlad butcha orc

Yeah, really? Ahahaha!

Russian advances are slower than a snail. 🐌🤭

Peter The Ungrateful

Slowly, slowly catchy monkey.

Michel LeBlanc

Where are the ukro advances?

Thats right there are none. Now shut the fuck up orc!

Hey

Umm, Ukrainians sucesfully drove Russians back from Sumy and Kiev. Compare maps between Mar 1 and April 5th, and you can see. Russian solders retreated due to losses, the whole “it was according to the plan” bullshit is propaganda by RF.

Peter The Ungrateful

m( Those were feints to bind Ukrainian resources. While everybody looked at Kiev Russia created facts in the Donbass. They could even sell the retreat as token of goodwill during the negotiations in Turkey. But Ukraine couldn’t have that and started shelling Bucha & Co. on the very same evening: “Look, we drove them out!!1!”

But keep drinking their Kool Aid, I guess.

Putin bitches tears taste like heaven

God you sure are dumb, ” good Will” having his men and thanks slaughtered lmao. Ukra army is waiting for them In donbas for two weeks already they got there way Faster with interior línes and now weapons from the west are flowing. Phase One pinning was a yuuuge success indeed 😂😂😂

Clyde

Holy cognitive dissonance, Batman! All the Russian demands have been met through the actions of the Russian military forces. Donbas relieved. Armed forces of the failed Ukrainian CIA project reduced to a disorganized rabble, moving from one bunker to the next. Banderpite racist kook project in Donbas eliminated. There really aren’t anymore Russian demands that are left unfulfilled. Hilarious.

Ed Slayer

No ITS Elensky making all the demands, More weapons, More Money, a No fly zone, more cocaine lol ,more false flags because they are “WINNING” LOL.

Muhammad your Prophet

Southfront copying the exact same news about the genocide committed by the Putin cockroaches where the plates used to cover the graves inadvertently reavealed how many civilians the Putin cockroaches murdered. There’s already plenty of evidence of mass murder committed by Russia. All Putin has left right now is moronic orwellian spins like this one. Accusing others of the same atrocities he’s committing. It’s the moronic Putin playbook. https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3467005-propagandists-inadvertently-confirm-scale-of-russian-atrocities-in-mariupol.html

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Muhammad the Pedophile

Kyteman

If you look at the photos of Manhush that you alluded to in the link you posted, you will see a church and a cemetery not exactly a hidden burial site at all then. Eva Bartlett and another journalist Roman Kosarev actually went to this site of ‘mass’ burials and found individual graves with markers, names and numbers, logged and identified. All were buried in individual graves in wooden coffins including Ukrainian soldiers with due respect. The two men responsible for the burials were interviewed and were shocked by the western media lies about this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeEnCcn1S3I&t=218s

Whiskey1Bravo

Muhammad Who? You mean the guy who work down at the local pizza shop ad serves pizza and beer or the other one who a liar, child molester and a dishonest evil businessman who would cut his own mother throat to make a Denarius? WWG1WGA

KE5

Why is the greatest atrocity not mentioned ? The arms supplied by NATO may be the greatest atrocity of this war.

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Vlad butcha orc

The worst atrocity, as has been made clear with the Nuremberg trials, is to start a war. Russia thus committed the worst atrocity of all, as a diplomatic solution to the Russian interests was already on the table.

However, at that time no one knew what a muppet show the Russian Forces would perform.

Everything Russia wanted to achieve is already off the table now. And the current targets won’t be achieved either, that’s already obvious too.

Clyde

Let’s see what’s “off the table”: Donbas will never be under Ukrainian authority again. Territories to the east of Donbas will never be under Ukrainian authority again. Crimea will never be under Ukrainian authority again. The failed Ukrainian CIA project will never be a member of NATO. The implementation of the kooky Bandeprite Nazi psy-op in Donbas has failed entirely. The capacity of the failed Ukrainian CIA project to conduct offensive military operations has been eliminated.

Good lord, Ukrotard, the Russians got everything they wanted! Wowsers!

Hey

“Donbas will never be under Ukrainian authority again.” How? Putin’s trench war is doing more and more damage to solders, the longer it lasts the more likely it is that RF will be pushed back. Russian military made no advances for the last week, as reported by the RF itself. If RF fails and gets pushed back from east, they are done in Ukraine, probably they would lose Crime too unless they start using nukes on Kyiv.

Peter The Ungrateful

Keep drinking that Kool Aid.

Hey

Wow, getting harder to cope with putins incompetency each day huh?

Peter The Ungrateful

Keep blaming Putin for something he is not even involved with. The generals are the ones getting payed for the planning and conduct of operations. That they don’t go about this SMO the way you would like to see only proves that you have no idea of what you are talking about.

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ClownLivesMatter

Hey Disagree completely, there’s no conceivable scenario in which Russia gets “pushed back” as you put it, this war has officially been been going on for over 2 over months now and since it began, Ukraine has had very few (If Any) successful counter attacks. As long as the Russians can develop appropriate countermeasures it might be better for them to draw this out a bit. Russian equipment is significantly cheaper for similar spec sheets so even where they do have to trade it’s not an economic loss for the Russians especially against all these shiny modern missiles NATO is dumping into Ukraine, NATO is similarly paying an economic price in many fields that Russia can be self sufficient in if they aren’t already.

I would prefer, if this is drawn out, for it to be done away from the cities but this is an ideal opportunity to drain the west of their economic, military and human resources while simultaneously gaining real world wartime experience, first hand feedback on military equipment and a better idea of how much the Russian military needs to spend (both in financial and material terms) to maintain a war which will better inform the military budget going forwards, I would not be surprised if there is a fairly significant shift towards expanding and maintaining ammunition stocks and related logistics in the near future.

Sorry but I’m highly skeptical of this bullshit proposition that you have presented here, thank you kindly.

Hey

Thank you for you answer with some arguments and not just ad hominem attacks. It would help to look into this from the start, and assess Russian losses overall(recorded and confirmed). Russia lost at least 3000 vehicles, of which 500 tanks in just 2 months thanks to very bad strategic use of the same, crossing wide areas with no recon, using main roads on the start, etc. For example, Russia lost around 14k solders in the first chechen war, which lasted for over 2 years. In Ukraine, Russia lost up to 15k of solder in two months. This amount of losses this quickly are not recorded in military history since WW2. Second, Russia is not using any modern warfare tactics. Due to clear failure of armor and tanks, Russians are stuck in trenches, and trench wars are worst for the solder sanity and morale. There is almost no air support, and when Russia attempts air support we get dozens of videos of shot down Ka52 and Su34s due to bad usage of the same(they fly low as if they are hiding from long range SAM’s, while Ukraine is mostly relying on MANPADs that can only hit low flying targets). Russia is not using strategic bombers on positions of enemy trenches, but only artillery which is not precise and fails to do the job efficiently. As time passes, Russian economy will sink further, and Russian solders will lose sanity, while Ukraine can always send new conscripts to the meat grinded. This results in Russian solders ultimately losing their positions and being killed/retret. In shot, that is how Russia could lose east, actually this is the same way Russia lost the offensive on Kyiv and Sumy. And no, Russian army actually tried to take these cities on ground, it wasn’t a decoy or something like that, which is proved by the number of solders deployed(and killed) in these areas. Basically, Russia will lose because its using 19th century tactics while being decapitated economically from most developed nations.

Erny72

The source of your claimed losses would be instructive, as I suspect you’re listending to the Ukrainian Minsitry of Truth via your perferred flavour of fake-news. The objectives of the feint against Kiev has been detailed well enough and often enough by now that to continue to insist that this was the main objective looks more like an exercise in convincing oneself than a persuasive argument. In case the memo never made it past the ministry of truth filters, the point of the feint and it’s rapid advance around and into Kiev was to apply political pressure, if there was an independent government in Kiev, they may have felt pressured to negotiate sensibly (e.g. finally uphold their side of the deal agreed in Minsk in 2015). Once that objective failed (becasue the clwns in Kiev are just puppets of Victoria NUlund and her group of megalomaniacs), the Kiev salient was maintained for a while to split the Ukrop’s defenses and to sow confusion as to where the important axes of advance actually were directed. In these objectives, the Russian army succeeded spectacularly as they were able to pinch off the Donbass cauldron, where the Ukrop’s army group Vostok was waiting at its start lines for an operation to invade and ethnically clense Donbass planned for early March and they were also able to roll up the south coast as far as the mouth of the Dnieper with token resistance, thus securing a permanent land bridge to Crimea. Air power has been doing its thing (this is evident by the videos shared across Telegram and the interviewed Ukrop POWs who declare that its Russian airpower that’s responsible for the most stubborn of the skid marks their underpants are now stained with), but the VVS doesn’t make flash video like A-10s flying over goat herders while going ‘brrrrt’ so perhaps it isn’t as theatrical as we’ve grown used to when ‘Murica is bombing the shit out of third world countries for the cameras? The proven attrition hasn’t been anything like as spectacular as you’re implying, indeed, take the example fo the Ka-52 dashcam taken on the morning of the assault on Gostomel airfield, he was finally brought down (controlled landing in a field) after having no less than 18 MANPADS fired at him. And there are still daily videos of Ka-52 and Mi-28 doing their handiwork, so tactical airpower does not appear to be lacking. As far as using strategic bombers on static defences in-lieu of artillery, I submit the only airfarce who ever wasted strategic airpower on such tactical targets was the USAF trying to cut the Ho Chi Mihn trail or bomb Al Quaeda out of Afghan caves, neither of which worked out terribly well. The Russian airforce is using its strategic airpower as it should (launching stand-off ALCMs from Tu-95 bears for example). The only time they’ve used ‘heavies’ as a show of force is dropping FAB-300 bombs on Azovstal (and a big bomb requires a big kite, like a Tu-22M) but chewing up airframe fatigue life bombing trenches, sangers and pillboxes is not worthwhile trade, not when one has artillery and thermobaric MLRS on hand in quantity. As far as economic wars of attrition, well Russia is winning that one handily too, which makes me wonder if the USA and UK wasn’t targetting Germany all along all along with these demented sanctions, and perhaps also themselves (one can’t ‘build back better’ with out first wrecking one’s economy). Basically Russia won’t lose, the only question now is how far west will the border move; my thinking is all of Novorussia will become part of the Russian Federation, but conceivably everything up to the borders of Zhitomir and Vinnitsia is possible. While in the west Poland is obviously looking to annex at least Lvov, but possibly all of Galicia (which could be a problem since all this ‘lethal aid’ is mostly sitting around Lvov where a resistance might gainfully use it. One would also be surprised if Hungary and Romania don’t reclaim lost territories or liberate speakers of their languages from the ubermenschen of Banderastan. It all really depends on just how desperate the west gets as the US republic implodes and the EUssr collapses, in the most petulent case, the whole lot might just end up smoldering (if ‘we’ can’t have it, no one can).

Clyde

There is no capacity in the armed forces of the failed Ukrainian state to push back anywhere. The question is how much more territory will be lost by Ukrotardistan before the peace settlement. The Ukrotards have not conducted a single brigade-level counter-attack, anywhere, ever. It’s all over but the Ukrotard crying.

BanderiteLivesDon'tMatter

Oh I’m sure they could find an old lady or two to beat up somewhere.

Erny72

I had this futile disussion with another zombie on another ‘news’ site a couple of weeks ago, in one ear, out the other. I’m not sure where you get these WW1 trench warfare or Russia is being beaten ideas from, but Donbass didn’t become Verdun over easter. It is fair to note that the Ukrops have spent the last eight years building monolithic static defences along the line of contact to hide inside of in case they were attacked by Donbass coal miners (that is when they weren’t busy shelling kids in cities). Naturally one doesn’t simply walk over defences in depth like that in some kind of suicidal Banzai advance, hence ADD may be triggered by apparent lack of progress. But by hiding inside static defences, the Ukrops have surrendered the initiative and made easy sitting targets of themselves. The reason the line isn’t moving forward in gamer friendly pace is because 60-100 thousand Ukrops are in the process of being blown to bits by Russian artillery and their replacement equipment is being blasted by air power. The notion that Russian soldiers would be getting shell shock in huge numbers assumes the Ukrops have any artillery left to respond with, never mind rounds to fire in quantity, but if you’d being paying attention you’d notice most of that is either gone or captured, hence these pathetic theatrical gestures from western ‘leaders’ to send eight retired howitzers from here, or ten from there, plus enough shelf expired ammunition for a four day fire mission. Assuming any of it got through, which it isn’t as people living in say, Lvov have been finding out when awoken by the bang of yet another arms shipment going up in smoke. That the Russian strategy of grinding up the Ukrops in the Donbass cauldron is working is evident in the quality of POWs being captured recently, groeing numbers of young or old conscripts with a week’s training (according to the interviews being shared online). Don’t worry, once the best of the Ukrops army and it’s hastily assembled replacements are ground up, the Russian advance will be fast enough even for attention defecit disorder sufferers to notice. And even then it probably won’t bother with Kiev, at least not until the useful parts of 404 are rolled up and the local populations get the chance to have referenda on remaing part of Banderastan in receivership or breaking away to greener pastures. Although according to Google trends the ‘I support the current thing’ crowd has already lost interest in Banderastan and started moving on to fretting about how expensive their champagne is now or whether Disney includes enough freaks in its messaging. But one must ask, why this obsession with instant sunshine and Kiev? No one other than the sock-puppets in Kiev, Brussels and Wasington, the presstitutes in the British Bullshit Creators and Clown News Network or the automatons who still swallow their daily ration of deep-state aprpoved bullshit give a toss about either nukes or Kiev – could it be projection? Perchance, such a diabolical false flag might seriously be the last desperate roll of the dice once it becomes obvious to even the most dedicated of non-thinkers that the smart-arsed Ukronazis and their regime change cheer squad bit off more than they could chew? In the meantime, the next show that should trigger more impotent rage among western woke whackers is what’s started brewing up in Transnistria; it would seem they don’t want to be left behind when Novorussia returns to its roots this year.

Peter The Ungrateful

Well, I guess the start of the war is on Ukraine, too. They started shelling their own citizens some eight years ago. Russia subsequently recognized the LPR and DPR and signed an agreement of mutual protection on Feb 21. Since the Ukrainian forces were on the land of DPR and LPR and had intensified the shelling mid February, they did not wait too long with the counteroffensive.

UN Charter article 51, textbook case.

Michel LeBlanc

Oh fuck off with the agression.

What the hell was the heavy artillery firing cluster munitions at donetsk city for the last 8 years. THATS ALSO AGRESSION ASSHOLE!!!

Ukraine and Nato had 8 years to negotiate, instead they choose to genocide russian speakers.

Time to pay. You made your choice, now its our turn.

Sundance

fléchette shells – if the cause of these civilian deaths in Bucha, where are the thousands of these shells in the streets, the ones that did not penetrate the bodies of the deceased? Why were the dead found with tied hands? Did they escape captivity with tied hands, only to be killed by shelliing wandering the streets? The killed were shot and massacred as reprisals by the Ukrianian SBU.

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Rasputin

The articles purpose is to distract and confuse. Sew doubt about the facts etc. Some bodies in the mass grave at Bucha had flechettes in them. Many didn’t. But the chose to focus on this as it shows some friendly fire fatalities and then try to say they were all killed by friendly fire. It purposefully avoided talking about the bodies in the streets.

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Shlomo Shekelbergsteingoldsilvergreen

tl;dr: its a false flag oy vey, how anti semetic of you SF! im calling my local rabbi and complaining!

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Khazar Agent

Dear Shlomo,

Khazars are not Semites, so Anti-Semitism is nowhere here seen

Clyde

Who could have imagined the total devastation of the Ukraine when the imbeciles were bouncing up and down on the Maidan pleading for a CIA coup?

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Miguel

Notice the headline of the article and the word games they use….

Dozens of Bucha civilians were killed by metal darts from Russian artillery https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/24/dozens-bucha-civilians-killed-flechettes-metal-darts-russian-artillery

If you parse through the article carefully you will see that it also says the following: “According to a number of witnesses in Bucha, fléchette rounds were fired by Russian artillery a few days before forces withdrew from the area at the end of March.”

So the headline says it was the Russians. An “expert” says that thee flechettes are found in certain Russian artillery without acknowledging that the Ukrainians also have these munitions. And finally, they acknowledge that these rounds were most likely fired at the town while the Russians still occupied it.

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NATO Empire of Lies

So according to the Guardian, Russians fired artillery on their own positions… because it makes sense in NATO insane mental asylum, especially Britain.

Peter The Ungrateful

It is even more nuanced. It says “Russian artillery”, which is correct since almost all Ukrainian equipment is Russian made. What it fails to say is from where the shells were launched. And they don’t even see the contradiction that for their accusations to be true the Russians must have shelled themselves.

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FreeToThink

https://twitter.com/AKurkov/status/1518510085563113473?t=nYpmSihw68izRJG8KV85bA&s=19 Russians do what they know best.

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Yuri

nazi cia moron tedious

Clyde

Guess what? It doesn’t matter one iota now. It’s already all over. It’s now a question of how much more territory is lost by the failed Ukrainian CIA project and how many unfortunate Ukrainian personnel get turned into taco meat before the peace agreement is signed.

FreeToThink

“Russian Ministry of Defence claimed the decision to withdraw from the Kiev and Chernihiv regions, the AFU heavily shelled Russian positions in the towns in the Kiev region with artillery.”

So… how is it possible that bodies were found from mass graves and not on the street?

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Peter The Ungrateful

I think it would be good if SF used more links to previous reporting in their articles, like this one for example: https://southfront.org/russian-troops-moving-out-from-kiev-chernihiv-videos/

It provides strong indices that the shells with fléchettes came from the Kiev direction.

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Yuri

sick immoral nazis again exposed

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National Conservative Website

Did you know that the Ukrainian Minister of Defense was telling Bucha residents not to evacuate?

https://rb.gy/f8xr6f

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TomSawyer

Haha, hilarious russian propaganda. Keep the good work SF, continue to entertain us with those crapy stories 😆😆😆 ^^

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Ricardo2000

William Casey (CIA Director 1981-1987): “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

Voltaire: “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”

The only thing White western media cloaca have learned is to lie to themselves and feel proud about it. These ‘people’ are still willing to believe whatever some Nazi politician states after all the US – NAYOYO lies told since WWII. The Guardian will never admit its complicity in war crimes, its support for Banderite Nazis, or change its arrogantly stupid opinions, as Solnit still thinks Azov provides lessons in moral courage.

H. L. Mencken (1880 – 1956): “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”… or the arrogant gullibility of so-called ‘media’.

The US now, and always, makes allies of the most corrupt, violent collaborators. Recently, US trained military yahoos have committed 8 coups in West Africa. Of course, military coups are cheaper than honestly negotiating Oil & Gas rights with responsible, democratically elected, popularly supported leadership. ‘Los Zetas’, Mexico’s worst narco gang were trained and armed by US ‘special forces’. Honduras, where democracy was recently restored after a US-OAS coup installed a president and family now facing decades in US prisons for drug trafficking. El Salvador, where ex-President Cristiani is facing murder charges for the executions of 6 Catholic priests, housekeeper, and her young daughter that advocated for negotiations and peace. NAYOYO welcomes military coups and death squads everywhere so long as it favours corporate greed and human rights violations terrify popular dissent. Only the most savage, racist, drug-dealing monsters are embraced as worthy NAYOYO allies because they have NO LOCAL support, and know their lives and future depend on following CIA instructions.

Max Born (November 1960, Bulletin Of The Atomic Scientist): “Should the human race not be extinguished by nuclear war it will degenerate into a flock of stupid, dumb creatures under the tyranny of dictators who rule them with the help of [ignorant media liars] and electric computers. This is not a prophecy but a nightmare.”

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BanderiteLivesDon'tMatter

Everybody loves Cannister

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Rasputin

fléchettes may explain the street full of bodies with little blood on the ground. But the article reiterates “no citizen of Bucha was harmed by the Russian Army” This if patently false, and doesn’t address the dozens of summarily executions, rapes, and thefts. these are corroborated with witness accounts, and the dead bodies hands tied, bullets to the heads etc.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/04/21/ukraine-russian-forces-trail-death-bucha#

an excerpt “Within minutes, Volodymyr and Iryna said, they found Oleh’s body on the sidewalk outside the fence. “I saw that he was lying with his face down, and blood was pumping out of his left ear,” Iryna said. “The right side of his face was missing, and brain tissue and blood were coming out of his wound.” She said a group of soldiers was standing no more than five meters away, “watching the event as if they thought it was theater.””

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Radek

The investigation confirmed that civilians were killed as a result of artillery shelling – Which investigation? When did it take place? Result of shelling from which party? Your conclusions are based on what?

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JMN

Instead of continue to massacre ukrainians and russians for the fun of the Empire and its Albion dog plus the bag full of european lemmings, President Putin should cut off gas to the teutons. The war stops the next day when the new Caporal in command of Germany finds his BMW, VW, audi and mercedes in danger of being produced and sold. Remember also that energy companies in western europe have also their oligarchs and shareholders that don’t give shit about ukrainian until their wallet is in danger. after that the war stops also and Zelensky can return to be a bad comic. For the bag of lemmings the only one important is the Teutons, the rest are a bunch of exited boy scouts. Can someone relay this to President Putin?

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