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Battle For Kharkov Region: Has NATO Gained Advantage?

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The offensive operation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and NATO in the Kharkov region was planned by the US military command. About 200 units of heavy military vehicles and up to 9 thousand soldiers were involved in the offensive. Reportedly, every third soldier operating under the Ukrainian chevron was a citizen of a NATO member state. These forces were 4-5 times superior to the units of the DPR, LPR and Russia defending their positions in the region.

The main goal of the Ukrainian offensive was a flank attack, encirclement and subsequent destruction of the Russian grouping in the area of Balakleya, Kupyansk and Izyum.

The Russian command predicted the attack by large forces of Ukraine and NATO in this direction. It was aware that it would be extremely difficult to contain the enemy’s offensive with the forces that it had. It was also almost impossible to transfer timely sufficient reinforcement without weakening other areas on other front lines.

Assessing the risks, the Russian military decided to leave weakly fortified positions and withdraw troops to new lines and straighten communication lines.

Before the start of the Ukrainian offensive, civilians who agreed to move to the territory of the Russian Federation were evacuated from the threatened settlements.

From September 6 to 11, Russian units were withdrawing in an organized manner under the cover of specially organized units. Using mobile defense tactics, the Russian military destroyed the plan of Kiev and NATO to encircle the Russian grouping.

At the same time, there were obvious mistakes made by the Russian military. The area in front of the forward positions was not mined. Units on the front line de facto had no more than 30 percent of the listed military personnel. The soldiers were not properly provided with anti-tank weapons. There were also failures of the front-line intelligence. As a result, the artillery cover of the withdrawal was ineffective in the first days of the Ukrainian offensive.

Now on September 12, Russian troops have been withdrawn to new positions along the eastern bank of the Oskol River with minimal losses. Meanwhile, both sides confirm that the Ukrainian and NATO units suffered significant losses in manpower.

Almost the entire territory of the Kharkov region came under the control of Kiev with minimal damage to the cities’ infrastructure. Immediately after taking control of the settlements, the Ukrainian military began repressions against the pro-Russian population, violating the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. The first cases of the executions were already reported.

Large Russian reserves are being transferred to the battlefields. The strategically important settlement of Krasny Liman has not yet been taken by the Ukrainian military. The fighting continues.

Last night, missile strikes hit the largest electricity facilities in eastern Ukraine. The collapse of the power system affected networks in the Kharkiv, Sumy, Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Odessa, Donetsk and Kiev regions. Until now, the power supply has not yet been fully restored.

The armed conflict in eastern Ukraine has finally turned into a state of war between Russia and NATO with unpredictable results for all parties in the conflict.

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Rob

“organized” Yeah, that is why they left wehicles and ammo behind.

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Anglia

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Slava Russia

You mean those Ukrainian tanks that had no Z’s painted on them?

MoskvaCrew

they were russian vehicles, even southfront reported it, if there were z’s all over them you would just say they were painted on by the ukrainians anyway, your a russian shill

Slava Russia

Russia has been preparing the withdrawal for months. There’s no reason for them to leave anything behind unless it broke down during the withdrawal.

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Last edited 11 days ago by Anglia
AM Hants

Also, if they removed everything, but a few minor toys, then NATO/Ukraine would have lost out on the surprise.

Buford T. Justice

Watched Channel 2 Moscow , very well known political talk show , they were saying that it was a chaotic retreat ( in Inzyum , at least ) , the militias were defenseless , running for their lives.

A lot of people attempting to put lip stick on the pig , trying to make it look pretty . Pretty it was not .

Clyde

And you are…? Anyhow, no reason to believe that the vehicles depicted are Russian.

NATO is laughing at you

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america = gay

you are a Zio-shit/illiterate moron @crazycunt troll from canada

Ramses

Yes I went to the scrapyard yesterday and painted Z on the cars there and took selfies to show off on Facebook how cool I am and impress people what a gangsta and how many cars I have!

This is the end of the world as we know it

Not all Russian tanks got a on it

AM Hants

If they had taken everything with them, it would have ruined the surprise for those NATO Forces, now wouldn’t it?

By the way, have you read the Rio Times Article, (that many others are reporting), with regards the Ukraine BOT Farms? What I found interesting is the fact they found far more Pro-Ukraine BOTS than Russian.

‘…By Regina Mihindukulasuriya

Between 60 and 80 percent of Twitter handles posting on the Russia-Ukraine war may be bot accounts, research by scholars from the University of Adelaide, Australia, has found.

The researchers also found more “pro-Ukraine” accounts than “pro-Russia” accounts.

Twitter bots do all the work (Photo internet reproduction) The paper titled “#IStandWithPutin versus #IStandWithUkraine: The interaction of bots and humans in the discussion of the Russia/Ukraine war” was released on Aug. 20.

The researchers studied 5.2 million posts on Twitter — tweets, retweets, quotes, and replies to tweets — shared between Feb. 23 and Mar. 8 this year to understand how bot activity may influence online discussions around the Russia-Ukraine conflict and how bots may influence human emotions.

The studies posts contained hashtags like “StandWithPutin”, “(I)StandWithRussia”, “(I)SupportRussia”, “(I)StandWithUkraine”, “(I)StandWithZelensky” and “(I)SupportUkraine”.

Bot accounts were identified using Indiana University’s Botometer — a software that helps identify a bot account.

“We can say that between 60 percent and 80 percent of accounts tweeting the hashtags we studied during the first two weeks of the war were bots, as determined using the Botometer,” Joshua Watt said to an Indian newspaper….

jens holm

If people live in ukraine they feel the war. In Russia many still see it as some far distanc skirmich. Russians are kept better then sheep.

jens holm

You confirm it. Right now Putin is knitting socks from 3 sheep.

Natalie Biden was 13

Keep bombing their largest electricity facilities. Let the nazis use candle. The Winter is coming. Cope.

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Clyde

Nothing for them to use to construct candles.

NATO is laughing at you

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Jim

yeah right, too little too late. plus Putin is a Christian and he would see that as immoral.

CanadaObserver

Is he really? Last baptism session I saw he didn’t dunk all the way under. XD

Crazycanuck

Little russian bitches ran homey to mommy and just dropped everything lol. and stay out of Ukraine azzwipes.

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Clyde

How many thousand Ukrotards turned into taco meat in the last three weeks?

Slava Russia

But it was all worth it for a photo-op in some indefensible farmland in Izyum, I’m sure that will boost the morale of blue haired trannies on Reddit.

Vanya

It sure took long enough for the numpty Russians to capture it. They were fighting over the Raisins for months and they gave it all up in two days. That should tell you all you need to know about Russia vs Ukraine.

Slava Russia

Russian military isn’t even in the war, Ukraine is losing to the Donbass and Lugansk militias and a handful of Chechens. Just goes to show the ignorance of NATO propagandists, that they’re not even aware of this most basic fact.

Moreover with Zelensky’s approach of throwing thousands of men into a meat grinder, yes everything is going to take long for the Russian side.

But Zelensky’s approach can only last for a few months until he runs out of men and material.

It’s already the case that Ukraine is using foreign mercenaries rather than Ukrainian servicemen. THAT should tell you all you need to know about the state of their military.

helen

Come on man, don’t say things like “Russian military isn’t even in the war”, because the officers and a bunch of others are Russian military and they didn’t do their job well – they didn’t even mine the territory in front of their forward trenches, for God’s sake! They could have slowed down the enemy and caused significant losses by shelling the soldiers who’d do the demining…. perhaps even enough losses that the enemy wouldn’t have been able to proceed with the attack, or would have been repelled.

Zelensky is NEVER going to run out of men and material, that’s only wishful thinking. He has soldiers from 40 countries to use, and the USA hasn’t even sent the big guns yet. Germany refused to send tanks. The moment he starts losing (for example, if the Allied Forces advance significantly, or Odessa is threatened), they’re going to send him the big guns and help him execute another “sink Moskva” or “destroy Crimean airfield” operation, believe me! (or even have their own men execute it on his behalf, wearing fake Ukrainian IDs)

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jens holm

Denmark might donate some Lego by Unicef.

Jim

exactly. way too many christian retards still believing the nonsense of people like the Saker and co.

jens holm

You have no idea about whats going on there.

All military units with numbers and often names are registrated with names and visible on several Youtubes every day.

They are as updated as possible. They of course move troops around. We often dont knpw their seize and strengh.

Ukras of course has tryed to hide where they attack from and how many units.

Many give live local pictures and videos from mobile phones and androids every day. Here we often can ID what we ssee or are told by local voices.

And by the way its the same here in Denmark. Our up to 30.000 refugees do contact family and friends home in Ukraine. Most of that of course is family talk and how be safe, get food a.s.o.

BUT we are told about the many destructions and from far away from the frontlines too.

Jim

must be nice to be on some hard drugs.

Afterthought

Why are you bragging about this? In war you do what it takes to win.

Christopher

On a historical tangent note, towards the end of its empire, the Roman legions had a large percentage of foreign non Romans in their ranks.

Buford T. Justice

The winning side doesn’t usually retreat en mass.

You’re right , Putin is refusing to use his own forces, is refusing to do what must be done . Incoming weaponry from the west openly travelling across the country , all the way to the front , unscathed , infrastructure , critical to Kiev and the Ukraine military , untouched . WTF ? Kiev should be too dangerous for Pelosi and those other assholes to visit .

Clyde

What does the presence of tens of thousands of Russians on the territory of the failed Ukrainian CIA project, after eight years of NATO training, advising and supply tell you? How about the tens of thousands of dead Ukrainians, the millions of refugees, and the billions of debt accrued by the poorest country in Europe? Any messages in there?

Ramses

I have a message ❤️🇺🇦. We love Ukraine so much. Ukraine will be rebuilt and improved.

Hans Holm

I have a message for you: what a lame, dumb faggot you are 🤢

Clyde

I have a message for you. Nobody who loves the Ukraine would have supported their neoliberal puppet Kiev Klown Kabal. Nobody who loves the Ukraine would have supported the ethnic cleansing ATO and accompanying Banderpite kook indoctrination program in Donbas. Nobody who loves the Ukraine would support the US using the Ukrainian people as a device to prevent the integration of Russia into an economic system with Europe that is not dominated by the Americans. You are a lying cunt.

jens holm

Sure. You are Nobody. If You wish we will donate You the leftovers of the DDR wall, so You and we can feel safe.

Ypu write nonsence. Very much as You as minimum has used a history book to make cigarettes or cigars.

zzz

Yr history books are all fake as Hitler’s diary. So is a good use

Bubbaorwell

Well if you dug a hole in Ukraine and crapped in it, it would improve the country.

jens holm

Thats true. USSR made it.

jens holm

Sure. Soon the will be in kremlin asking for more Putin statues.

As usual no Russians die and they never loose any equipment. Thats very impressing.

Ukras seemes to have ecloned some Potemkin and the nato help is by Kafka.

jens holm

Yes, it was devastating for Ukras too loose it. From there You can put many russian troops in by train and a good roadmap.

Slava Russia is no bot. He just show his but. Some shawing below might make him see more.

jens holm

Izium itself is a real town having 45.000 inhabitants. It also has very good defence lines with very flat terrain and water around it. .

It has very good road and railway tracs from Belgorod down to Lyman. None make a military HQ a place like that for Your reasons.

Next time You have to look at google instead of the highly censured Spandex.

Slava Russia

Yes, they ran home to Donbass, which is part of Russia now.

Vanya

That will be lost next, you can see that the Russian don’t have anything left and are unwilling to use strategic weapons.

Slava Russia

“Russian don’t have anything left”

A comical statement straight from CNN. The Russian military hasn’t even been deployed yet. Ukraine is losing to the Donbass and Lugansk militias and a handful of Chechens.

Meanwhile Zelensky is relying on foreign mercenaries because the Ukrainian military is already dead.

This is the ignorance of those who only follow Western mainstream media disinfo.

Ramses

Dumbass had 2000 tanks that has been destroyed, where did they come from? Ukraine? Nato? Russia? Or dumbass built them themselves?

Your Mouth Yankee toilet

Dog who raped your mother was a dumbass. All 2000 of them.

jens holm

Haha. I gave You a plus. It gave You 2 minus – so +

jens holm

Russia cant deploy anthing.They only have old untrained reservists with ancient or none weapons. They not even has food for them.

zzz

But they food for Jens. Dog food

oscar

ME TEMO QUE ESO SUCEDERA SI LA OTAN SE ENVALETONA Y MANDA MAS MILITARES Y NO ES MOCO DE PAVO QUE HAYA 30 A 50 MIL MILITARES DE LA OTAN EN UCRANIA EN LA RETAGUARDIA Y DIOS SABRA CUANTOS DE ESOS SON COMBATIENTES Y CUALES PERSONAL TECNICO Y ESO SIN CONTAR LOS QUE ESTAN EN POLONIA ETC EN ALERTA..LA PAZ PREVALECERA SOLO SI LA OTAN PIERDE ESTA GUERRA ,,NO SE VE OTRA OPCION !!

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jens holm

We will never do that. Its a waste of good citicens and them in Catalonia too.

It will be by jets, missiles, drones and electronic warfare.

Miki Miric

Jebem ti familiju,Rusija je imperija,čiju će snagu osjetiti smrdljivi Ukrajinci,SLAVA RUSIJI

Retarded American

Dobro jutro Miki, sta si se napokon probudio od onog “Nevalja vam ovo Rusi, niste trebali to da radite…”. Nego sta nego imperija, vojna imperija barem 10god. ispred moronskih amera. Slava Rusiji!

Miki Miric

Nikada nisam bio protiv Rusije,ali postoje neke stvari koje jednostavno ne smiju da se dešavaju jednoj sili kakva je Rusija,ne smije se gubiti ugled na jeftin način.

jens holm

10 deads bear in the graveyard is better then one at the roof.

zzz

But you have 10 living bears in the backyard

jens holm

So funny. You might try again and leave East. We will name You EasternBunnies. Dont offend the Mongols.

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jens holm

Russia certainly need honor. It has none.

Xsayarsa

Just wait until they come to you in Manitoba or Alberta, fucking bandera bitch.

Clyde

That asshole is not in Canada.

Xsayarsa

Thanks, good to know.

Crazycanuck

Clyde has never told the truth , I am Canadian and live in Toronto right near the humber river.

Clyde

Hey fuck-tard, you remind me of the very first Ukrotard keyboard warrior I encountered on Rabble in 2014. “I am live in Moose Jaw by the tunnels”. You “people” are pathetic.

Miki Miric

Taj seronja je na mojoj debeloj kiti,dok mi njegova mama liže jaja

RUSSIA WILL PREVAIL. TEAM PUTIN #1 FAN!

For fuck sake then please fucking drown!

Yamil Perez

You are a pile of shit from Toronto sewers. or more likely from Romanian sewers. But definitely stinky piece of shit.

Medved

Humber stinks, runs through slum city, absorbing its toxic waste, explains the brain damage.

Bubbaorwell

And only two more drinks on your Starbucks card till you get a free soy latte

Caos89

Ukraine doesn’t exist anymore. A major part is under the control of America and the other is liberated by the russian coalition.

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Ramses

Cry baby, you are either American or Russian. Nowhere else have they fostered such amount of scared snowflakes hiding behind large borders.

Clubofinfo

The NATO strategy is calibrated to avoid nuclear war, so Russia should nuke European capitals such as Berlin. As soon as NATO is forced to choose nuclear retaliation or surrendering Eastern Europe, it will choose the latter; it clearly is signalling that it won’t risk its own annihilation to destroy Russia, so it can be expected to back off once it sees this nightmare beginning to come true and that all its calculations about Russian tolerance failed.

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Slava Russia

No nukes, all Putin has to do is send the regular Russian army and the whole of Ukraine will fall in 2 months. Why he hasn’t done this yet is beyond me.

Vanya

What army? There is no other army. It is all bullshit.

Crazycanuck

Russian trolls just dont believe the truth , they are brain dead like regular russian dumphuccs.

Slava Russia

You wouldn’t know truth if it was stuck to the feet of the police horses which Turdeau uses to trample your dumb ass.

Clyde

This “Crazy Canuck” thing is not a Canadian. They’re Ukrainian.

Miki Miric

I to smrdljivi

TheCorvetteGuy

He’s an idiot in any case

Medved

Maybe nuke Canada to scare Europe. And if Crazycanuck stops posting then he really is a Canuck.

jens holm

I can only speak for Denmark. We have danes which are from other countries or their parents or grandparents were.

They do feel for their old country but feel better living here. Many do their vacation in their ancister land and love it.

Banderitelivesdontmatter

he can be both, gaylord hitlers ukrainian shitwipes emigrated to western Canada to avoid being hung for war crimes under Canada’s version of operation paperclip. this is why their minister freeland is called a nazi, she is the granddaughter of a full fledged Ukrop Nazi UPA asswipe. sooo many of these useless nazi ukrops in Canada its no surprise to me for a butt bandit to show up here.

AM Hants

Russian Trolls, when Adelaide University did a survey into BOT Farms and found they were inundated with Pro-Ukraine trolls. Are you one of the 80% projectors?

Slava Russia

The Russian military hasn’t even been deployed yet. Ukraine is losing to the Donbass and Lugansk militias and a handful of Chechens.

You don’t even know this, this is how comically ignorant CNN has kept you.

jens holm

Russia has deplyed almost anything they have.

They do have buches of oldreservists having no training for years. If the have wapons they are old. Those reservists most likely cant handle high tech.

Thye have no food and supply for them. Their is no transportation. In tanks they migh have 20 Armatas, which are second class fakes worse then Our old but upgraded leopards in Estonia.

Russia still has some missiles. Soon the Kaspian Navy has none.

Most of the Russian military force seemes to be one beig flee market expropriated form local museum by archeology.

Banderpig

You mean your ukronazi “truth”? LOL!!

Xsayarsa

Chabad – Lubavitch controls him.

Ramses

Maybe Manchuria will disappear?

Hunter Biden your Pimp

Manchuria is in China you retarded LGBT monkey. It was liberated by Soviets in 1945. from Japanese occupation and returned to China. Germany is still occupied tho, yankee slaves forever.

jens holm

Russia has no regular army.

Vlad from Romania

No need to nuke cities in Europe, soon they will ask for Russians to accept them in the great Federation and save them from freezing under NATO and UE rule… 😁 Russians have great food, UE will have nothing, not even roaches to eat 🤕

Ramses

True, great food.

Most EU countries have a variety of energy systems. But maybe not Romania trusting russia to subsidize with energy. I think it is a bad habit to expect mother russia to give handouts to former Soviet provinces unless you aspire for reconnection.

jens holm

Killing people saves pension. Less men also make less children. Russian men might be stereogame.

Hard time. They already has no ears.

Ramses

If nato choose to not retaliate instantly it is to delay it just to be sure it wasn’t a mistake.

oscar

ESTO YA ES UNA GUERRA ABIERTA Y DIRECTA ENTRE RUSIA VS LA OTAN CON CANTIDADES ENORMES DE PERSONAL MILITAR DE LA OTAN INVOLUCRADO Y MATANDO RUSOS INCLUSO CIVILES YA NO SON INTERMEDIARIOS VIETNAMITAS COREANOS O ARABES ETC ESTA BARBARIDAD ES COSA QUE NUNCA SUCEDIO CUANDO ESTABA LA URSS SE CUIDABAN MUCHO DE ENFRENTARSE DIRECTAMENTE ….PERO AHORA LA OTAN ENLOQUECIO MUY FEO !!!

jens holm

Many see those big letyters as Yoiu are like that seize too.

Billy bean

Russian Front in Kherson west of Dnipro set to collapse. Negotiations underway to surrender to Ukrainian forces with all equipment intact.

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Slava Russia

Cool story Mr. Bean

Billy bean

Update: Both sides of the Dnipro are surrendering.

Ryan

What is your source? Please, no fakes

Natalie Biden was 13

his source? The crack dealer

jens holm

The american moonlanding will be on Putin. They will plant hair instead of flags.

Horons will give him nicer tits too. They are preparing Russia for Mother Russia statues.

Billy bean

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1569272612345319425

Torquemada

Mucho cuidado con twiter y la desinformacion

cliff

It’s war between NATO and Russia and theres not turning back from it …NATO is committed in using Ukrainians to defeat the Russian in Ukraine and the Ukrainians agreed to be NATO puppet,the Russian need to make a decision rather to committed they troop in the fight or have this thing draf on for years. .

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Vanya

Russia already gave up, they refuse to fight.

Vlad from Romania

With the effects all those sanctions have on them, Russians might laugh and just keep it going for years… UE countries should know Better and cut the crap.

Ramses

Not at all. Ukraine choose sovereign country, asked and got help from NATO. Did Moscow get help from the other puppet oblasts, why don’t you complain about that hypocrite!

Clyde

Ukraine choose Victoria Nuland and CIA make run boss country. Maidan snipers gurble guk. Derp, derp.

Ramses

The lesser evil perhaps.

Clyde

Perhaps not. Only a fucking simpleton would want their country integrated further into the US-dominated, and collapsing, post-WW2 system. The Ukraine, which was already a failed state by 2014, is now a neoliberal playground.

Ramses

So basically what you are saying is that democracy will not make it, the bank debts and stock market valuation aren’t covered by the value of the western spheres society and corporations products and services? Only raw material and protocol religious authoritarian societies are solid?

Clyde

There is no such thing as “democracy”. There is rule by plutocrats. If you don’t know that, you’re beyond help. The banks were completely broke in 2008, and were saved by Quantitative Easing. They went broke again in the summer of 2019, and were saved, again temporarily, by Covid policies enacted by the US Federal Reserve. The stock market valuation is entirely the product of the US Fed bailing out the banks. Germany is being dismantled in the pursuit of preventing independant European action in an effort to preserve the US unipolar system. This democracy “rubbish” is just that. The hallowed “democracies” of WW2 consisted of the British Empire, the French Empire, briefly the Polish military dictatorship, the Belgian Empire, the Dutch Empire and the US Empire. Time for you to grow up, li’l Ramses.

jens holm

We see none of that. We are not collapsed. Next time we hope You choose Harpo marx. He talks less.

helen

Why “the lesser evil’? Was it hard for Ukraine to stay neutral and whole? Probably it was too hard for Ukraine because of the immense pressure the USA was inflicting on it to get on the USA side. (Russia didn’t inflict such pressure – it accepted Ukraine to be in both economic unions, but EU said Ukraine couldn’t be in both)

The Donbass people would have never taken up arms if the Kiev coup hadn’t taken place. Ukraine would have had the best of both world and would have stayed whole (Crimea included).

Ramses

Best comment here so far. I personally detested having Hunter Biden in an Ukrainian oil company, never saw any qualifications for the good job position he got. On the other hand would Russia let forward people on good job positions because of personal friendship or political party affiliation, I think so.

Ukraine struggled with corruption that stems back to Soviet time, barter system due to the lack of communism inability to deliver. Today it is “tradition”.

EU could not yet accept Ukraine because of corruption. I think it would be optimistic to think western companies would invest in Ukraine with the risk of internal corruption or russia there stealing and confiscating easily passing the border. So it would have been a choice of direction for .ukraine I think, not both worlds and risk of leaking company innovation. Which russian companies could have invested in Ukraine, money, innovation, know-how? I doubt the oligarchs had any interest in medical innovation or anything else than selling gas and steel.

If the East Ukraine russian leaning population doesn’t accept The Ukrainians democracy they should leave and move to Russia instead, not vote for Moscow puppet. There is plenty of room in russia.

Vladolf have been looking at Crimea for a long time, and history revisionism. So there was no chance he would have let Ukraine keep it. This time he will lose it the military way and not by being signed over.

jens holm

If Nato was there there would not be a single Russian foot dead or alive.

Russia only has met Ukras with some extra equipment here and there.

Christopher

Danes like the Jews are good liars.

kogda mi byli na voinye

slava candles…

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Vanya

Hard not to gain an advantage. Ukraine mobilizes and the West pours weapons in. In response Russia holds parades and trade shows and acts like nothing is going on.

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Ramses

Russia is ghey parading, man handing over bling bling to other man (medal), and then they complain a lot, playing victims today and 200 years back in history. Every aspect of their life they think EVERYBODY is against them.

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Hunter Biden your Pimp

Says Ramses The Rimjob cheap tranny whore from Romanian brothel serving Yankee sailors.

Vanya

The only Russian Federation leader who even talks like a war is going on and that they want to win is Kadyrov. The rest act nonchalant like they don’t have a care in the world. Losing like this could easily cause other Republics and Oblasts to secede. Why put up with economic sanctions just to be affiliated with some gopnik losers and their gas station.

Xsayarsa

Russians can be defeated only by their own and only for a limited period of time. They need a new Stalin,not a Kerensky´s reincarnation Putin.

Ramses

Gorbachev, but I doubt the russian people could follow his lead, to much self pity and victim hood .

Clyde

Yes, the Russians need somebody to hand the country over to a drunken criminal like Yeltsin, who can funnel the resources of a few hundred million people into American financial markets. Bring back Larry Summers and the Harvard boys! Let’s see the life-span of Russians drop even farther than they did in the nineties. You fucking muppet cunt.

hiero

Right words Vanya. Did anyone noticed Peskov’s hatred of Kadyrov? Yes, Peskov thinks if he talks “negotiation”, the good West will award him $$$. So Vlado is not “objecting” to meet Zelinskyj, if Turkish Sultan arranges for it?? How about Kadyrov for Pres. of Russian Federation. How about Pushilin phone North Koreans, thanking for “recognition” and inviting 100k N.K. soldiers, many of their generals no doubt are trembling to get “mano a mano” w. Academi “employees”. Well, so far it sounds as there is a rot somewhere? How come that some Charkovans contacted their relatives in Poland more than 2 weeks ago stating there is huge influx of Ukie soldiers and equipment coming to the area. How come that Russian allies and especially their milit. intelligence didn’t noticed that?? Planning “to leave the area”??? How about all those people who could not evacuate?? Well who’ll support Allies efforts here or there, if they can decide “to leave the area” later, many people in the South (Donetsk) seem to be getting angry, as they say we are bombed by Ukies now more than before Russian came in. Why Russian still could not organized total anihilation of Ukies equipment threatening 6 nuclear reactors? Perhaps Shojgu should organize immediate Martial Court off all Generals responsible, maybe they’ll find suitcases of $$ here and there – well, it doesn’t smell well – Kadyrov for Field Marhall!

Jean Paul France

Totally agree

Jean Paul France

Fake Jean Paul. Dirty thief.

Xsayarsa

Shojgu could hardly organize more than the V-day parade.

helen

With the exception of Shoigu organizing anything, seeing as he doesn’t even have military experience, I agree with what you wrote.

hiero

After checking few infos, sadly agree w. you and Xsayarsa. Unfortunately big “pig” heads (meaning good) like Zhukov are no more. Though remember Kadyrov cica 2yrs ago casually asked in Groznyj if someone would help RF in Syria-next day the stadium was full of chearing Chechens already w. full military gear

Ramses

Gorbachev seemed like he knew change was needed. The others seems stuck in their society and not leaders.

Clyde

The way you’ve got a hamster stuck up your ass, you dipshit? Let’s hear about the looting of Russia during the voucher/shares debacle. Tell us all you know about the relationship of the Harvard Endlowment to the collapse in Russian living standards in the nineties, you fucking twat.

Ramses

Russia was ran down by communism economy and in need of quick fix money from bank and stock market to rebuild quickly. Many sovok were too old to deal with the change, they can try claim victim hood while they in fact were the perpetrators creating the bad situation.

Clyde

You stupid cocksucker, the US bankers looted the country. It’s hardly a secret.

The dream

According to this article raf was protecting an area of 500 km2 with 1700-2000 troops (1/5 of the attacking force) We’re are the rest 193.000?

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TomB.

Thats the result when only 200k defend a 1200km long frontline, because the moscow morons dont send in the needed 500k.

Crazycanuck

Getting eaten by magots in some field , there will be more russian phuccin losers getting the same fate.

eat shit and die

your tumorous monkey brain was eaten by maggots while you rot in your stinky basement slowly dying in agony. that’s your fate.

Clyde

Huge blue-bottle flies are gorging themselves on Ukrotard taco meat around Kherson, and apparently all along the lines of advance in the Kharkov oblast, as well. It’s mardi-gras for the maggots in Ukrotardistan.

helen

They never had 200000, it was more like 120000.

Transgender vegan Sarah Ashton-Cirillo

High time to make a big crater out of the presidential office in Kiev.

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Tercio

Como ucraniano que soy siento un enorme dolor por los cientos de miles de soldados que llevamos perdidos y también por esos voluntarios que vienen a luchar como héroes y mueren como ratas.

Retarded American

So this is NATO! My dear Russian friends please nuke Washington and London!

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Billy bean

So the news that came in the last hour:

– Kherson troops negotiating surrender – Russians leaving Donetsk – Putin of to his palace near Sochi – Military command refusing new troops into Ukraine – Kherson troops now actually surrendered

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Transgender vegan Sarah Ashton-Cirillo

stop spamming the forum son of a suka

AM Hants

From an Ukraine site and no doubt, they also gave us the Ghost of Kiev. How many did Ukraine lose from the 6-10 December 2022? How many did NATO lose, well unofficially?

Crazycanuck

Right after Ukraine takes ALL its land back , Crimea included we are going to russia and we will denuke the shitthole once and for all.

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Xsayarsa

You claimed you live in Toronto somewhere close to the Humber River. But please do, march on Moscow and do not forget to send a postcard “from Russia with hate”! Idiot.

Clyde

This fucking retard is another failed Ukrotard keyboard warrior. Nowhere near Canada.

Tremor Perez Dead

That’s the mentally retarded degenerate troll with 1000 gay names who pollute this site for months, years… that shithead has no legs, brain, balls or spine, so he is sitting in his basement and shitting from his mouth all day long.

helen

Canada is full of Ukrainians, it’s very possible he’s in Canada actually!

Clyde

Canada is not full of Ukrainians. Canada is full of Canadians who believe that theyr’e Ukrainian because they believe a vast load of kooky identitarian rubbish fostered as a function of anti-communism by British and US intelligence. My ancestors came from Ireland, it doesn’t make me an Irishman. But this fuckpile is not in Canada.

AM Hants

Riddle me this, how long was Crimea part of Ukraine? Riddle me this, but, what did the 1994 Classified UK Prime Minister’s Papers, that were declassified, have to say about Ukraine and Crimea? Didn’t they say that unless Ukraine started valuing the people of Crimea and also investing in the infrastructure of Crimea, the people would demand to return to Russia. The Kherson Massacre, back in February 2014, was the primary reason for the people of Crimea holding the referendum, which took them back home. Over 80% of the electorate voted and over 93% wanted to go home to Russia.

How much did the pensioners receive, as soon as Crimea went back home to Russia? How much did they get from Ukraine? Not forgetting the infrastructure, when you look at how far it has come since 2014.

Pro-Ukraine BOT Farms, create 80% of Pro-Ukraine propaganda – according to Adelaide University, over in Australia.

Jean Paul France

Pathetic Russia, obsolete weapons without aim, it is horrible to see for 6 months. NATO meanwhile 10 shots 8 hits. This is how a war is lost, it is logical that the Russian and Republican soldiers flee. Putin only has two advantages, mobilization of reservists and tactical nuclear weapons, but he is a coward and wretch and does not dare to use them. I see things very badly if the Russian leadership does not change.

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Jean Paul France

Wtf NATO hit except your mother you stupid SoB who stole my name? Back in 1999. after 3 months of air campaign they destroyed like 5 Serbian tanks.

AM Hants

Remind me, how much of Lugansk and Donetsk now have their freedom back, thanks to Russia and the Forces of Donetsk? Remind me, how many were taken out between 6-10 September 2022, for those few ghost towns, that Ukraine is celebrating? 4,000 dead Ukrainians and 8,000 Ukrainians injured. Yeah, Russia losing – in your dreams.

Valk

This site is getting worse and worse. This article is the biggest sook job. Russia has no excuse and would get wiped by NATO. Russians would love it, joining Europe. Even Kadyrov wants to leave cause they fighting so poorly.

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AM Hants

Remind me, how many NATO Forces, on vacation in Eastern Ukraine, got taken out between 6-10 September 2022?

Remind me, but, how many hypersonic missiles, in active service does NATO actually have, between them all? Is it ZERO?

Remind me, but, doesn’t Russia have more nuclear warheads, in active service, than all of NATO put together?

Remind me, but, is there any NATO weapon or system, that can get through the Russian defence shields? Isn’t the answer NO.

Remind me, but, was it 80% of pro-Ukraine comments come from BOT Farms, as reported by research from the University of Adelaide, over in Australia. Not as though Australia can be classed as a pro-Russian nation, now is it?

Valk

How many hypersonic missiles does Russia really have ??? Allies Invaded Iraq in less than a month, stronger army, hostile enviro and thousands of miles from home. Russia hardly beat Chechenya, lost first war, genocide the 2nd.

US bombers wiped the same amount of Russians in Syria or more some years ago.

Yes your point is correct about nuclear. Russia spent all it’s money on modernising it’s missiles because they had to due to materials and lack of maintenance. US spent it’s money on modernising it’s tanks, soldiers, helis, and airforce. US missile and bomb tech far outweighs Russia for conventional. US found its Minuteman 3 are good enough to only need replacing past 2030.

US has deployed it’s Daisy cutters and Moabs on numerous occasions……where’s Russia’s fake Foab ? Wouldn’t that be useful in Ukraine ?

Banderitelivesdontmatter

Remind him also that the highly touted US missile defense system has a track record of shooting down three ICBM targeted on Upstroke, Zero for Downstroke out of 20 tests conducted on minutemen the 1970’s version of a nuke ICBM.(non deflection warheads IE. Dumb nukes) since the construction of the “Missile defense system” during Ronnies tenure as head jackass in the 80’s

Mike

“The area in front of the forward positions was not mined. Units on the front line de facto had no more than 30 percent of the listed military personnel…” If the command knew of the offensive, and everybody knew, these are not mistakes, this is treason. The other possibility is the story of the “trap”, but it is hard to believe, up to now.

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oscar

YA NO ES PARA NADA UNA “OPERACION ESPECIAL ” NO SE DEBE USAR MAS ESE EUFEMISMO !! ESTO ES UNA GUERRA ABIERTA ENTRE LA OTAN Y RUSIA QUE SEGURO VA A ESCALAR CADA VEZ MAS Y MAS QUIZAS HASTA EL ARMAGEDEON !!

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Rocky Trojson

“It was aware that it would be extremely difficult to contain the enemy’s offensive with the forces that it had. It was also almost impossible to transfer timely sufficient reinforcement without weakening other areas on other front lines.” You should not be saying Russia is doomed. Stay away from open windows.

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Ramses

You say zombie ghey army are fit for shooting civilians in their windows home, I believe you. Is there a medal in russia for shooting civilians in windows?

TomB.

Organised and Planned retreat? But leave behind dozents of Tanks, ifvs and Tons of ammo? Bullshit! If the morons in moscow urgently dont wake up and call in a few hundret thousand reservists, than this war could not be won, never!

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AM Hants

NATO, who were unofficially there, expected Russian Forces to be there, in order to try and encircle them. Now, why would they take their weapons and systems with them, when they wanted to entice the NATO members, on vacation in Eastern Europe, into yet another cauldron?

How many got taken out between 6-10 September? It would have ruined the surprise if they did not leave a few toys behind, would it not?

aes

russia should continue attacking nazi’s power network until it is completely destroyed, in order to prevent its coming back to life.

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based

only southfront can put such a positive spin on a such failure of RU Forces, everything on RU side is tactical, well planned, well executed, minimal losses etc… but on ukrainian side everything is bumbling, heavy losses, offensive stalls etc.

Get a grip and report it an unbiased way, but I presume you can’t since if you do not take a heavy Russian-bias, your monthly donations would dry up real quick

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Marcus Chapman

Unless you want to be a hypocrite, you need to condemn the persecution of pro Ukranian citizens in Crimea.

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Mrcristo

Got any examples?

TomB.

watching this,agony since 7 months, i see only this solution: Khadyrov and Medwedew take over Putin, half of the Rus generals command should be shot in open Public on the Red square, call in a good Part of the 2 Million reservists and the whole ukro job could be done till end of year with a victory Parade in Odessa.

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Medved

Maybe if Russia advanced more quickly then US/NATO would step things up like piracy on the high seas, put boots on the ground in Ukraine etc. And if the Ukrainians do well then the supply of arms, ammo and $$ would be reduced. The West wants this conflict to drag on for years with no one winning quickly. Maybe Russia bides its time because Ukraine, Europe, USA and UK are in self-destruct mode so why hurry?

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