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Azerbaijan’s Forces Entered Aghdam, Aliyev Says “Normality” With Armenia Possible With “Healthy Forces” In Power

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Azerbaijan's Forces Entered Aghdam, Aliyev Says "Normality" With Armenia Possible With "Healthy Forces" In Power

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On November 20th, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said that he is ready for normal relations with Armenia if “healthy forces” come to power there.

He also stated that “the Karabakh is over.”

Meanwhile, to reinforce Aliyev’s claims, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan dismissed defense Minister David Tonoyan and he appealed to the President with a proposal to sign a decree on the dismissal of the Minister.

On November 19, the newly appointed Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Armenia Ara Ayvazyan had a phone conversation with the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Sergey Lavrov.

Lavrov congratulated Minister Ayvazyan on assuming the post of Foreign Minister. In this context, the mutual readiness to continue developing the Armenian-Russian allied relations in all spheres, including regional security issues, was emphasized.

The interlocutors touched upon the details of the practical implementation of the November 10 trilateral statement and the activities of the Russian peacekeeping mission in Artsakh.

The ministers also discussed the situation in Artsakh and the region. Reference was made to the efforts aimed at the settlement of the humanitarian situation in Artsakh, as well as to the meeting with the OSCE Minsk Group Co-Chairs held in Moscow yesterday.

1,235 refugees returned to Artsakh from Armenia during the day. Since November 14, about 4,000 people who were previously forced to leave their homes have returned to Stepanakert.

In Azerbaijan, WarGonzo reported that Azerbaijan’s president Ilham Aliyev signed the peace deal, which allowed Russian peacekeepers in Nagorno-Karabakh, without consulting with his “big brother” Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Azerbaijan's Forces Entered Aghdam, Aliyev Says "Normality" With Armenia Possible With "Healthy Forces" In Power

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According to unnamed diplomatic sources, Aliyev asked Putin for twenty minutes to coordinate with Erdogan a well-known document on the deployment of Russian peacekeepers to Nagorno-Karabakh. The Russian President did not provide such an opportunity to Aliyev.

“Naturally, this circumstance caused serious tension in relations between Baku and Ankara, since Erdogan’s plans did not include giving the region under the control of the Russian Peacekeeping Forces.

In the Turkish scenario written for this war, the calculation was that in addition to the Russian contingent, Turkish troops should have been directly on the line of demarcation between the Artsakh Defense Army and the Azerbaijani Armed Forces. The current agreement does not provide for this.

The emergency entry of Turkish troops into the territory of Azerbaijan-recently approved by the Turkish Parliament-is a consequence of this internal conflict. Erdogan is urgently trying to make up for the geopolitical points given by Aliyev to Moscow.

Aliyev promised to fulfill these requirements. Erdogan again-opposes this. He has his own plans for extremists.”

Azerbaijan's Forces Entered Aghdam, Aliyev Says "Normality" With Armenia Possible With "Healthy Forces" In Power

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The issue of the presence of militants from Pro-Turkish terrorist groups in the region remains open. According to diplomatic sources of the WarGonzo project, Moscow and Tehran demanded the immediate withdrawal of radical elements from Transcaucasia.

On the ground in Karabakh, the situation is stable, another 18 Il-76 aircraft and two An-124 “Ruslan” aircraft of the military transport aviation of the Aerospace Forces of Russia with equipment and personnel were sent to Armenia to take part in the peacekeeping deployment.

During the day, 33 pieces of equipment were delivered to Armenia by Russian Aerospace Forces aircraft – armored vehicles “Tigr”, “Lynx”, cross-country trucks, repair and evacuation vehicles, equipment and material support equipment.

Meanwhile, according to the trilateral Statement signed by the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan, the prime minister of the Republic of Armenia, and the President of the Russian Federation, units of the Azerbaijan Army entered the Aghdam region on November 20th.

There are quite a few videos showing that:

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Mr T

Turkish flag on AZ Turk tank… lol :)
Russia super power:)

Zionism = EVIL

Russia is not very popular in the Caucasus, the Bolshevik brutal history of mass murder and deportations is still very fresh in the Muslim and other minority areas. The Muslims resented the Slavization of their culture and even names, and now history is coming full circle.

Frank

Maybe, but Turkey is a terrorist sponsor and Russia will not stand for it.

occupybacon

Haha Turkey is one of main Russia business partners.

paolinks

No. Turkeys is one of the main Russia’s partners. It is not only about business anymore.

Zhirinovsky’s plan is going ahead full steam.

occupybacon

I’m not familiar with your internal politicians just know about the guy that pushed a youngster towards a female journalist screaming rape her, can you detail a bit about this plan? I hope is not with rapes :)

Ryan Glantz

Agreed, of all nations, Turkey is perhaps more corrupt than USA, and that’s really saying something!

Harry Smith

This world is not black and white, but endless shades of grey. Nobody is 100% good or 100% bad.

Al Gathafi Did Nothing Wrong™

“Bolshevik brutal history of mass murder” same goes for “Ottomans brutal history of mass murder of Armenians and Slavs”.

Zionism = EVIL

Not so sure about Armenian genocide as like the Jew liars they exaggerate the killings after WW1 and Ottoman collapse era. Turkey and Slavs have been rivals for almost a thousand years for control of Dardanelles and Eurasia, and since Peter’s Russian revival the Turks have been on the backfoot and lost a lot of territory. The Turks have probably killed more Arabs than Slavs, the Ottomans and even Mustafa Kemal was very anti Arab and racist. Turkey is now occupying parts of two old Arab states, Iraq and Syria, so its role is actually worse than Zionists in causing divisive policies and fanning Salafist terrorism.

I try to be objective, BTW, Kaddafi was a good man, only mistake he trusted the devious westernCUNTS in the end and paid the price. Should have remained a secular pan Arab- revolutionary.

occupybacon

Not only Bolseviks, the majority of North Kaukas was muslim before Tsarist expansion. Russia did ethnic cleansing before communism, against equally both muslims and christians.

paolinks

The bolsheviks did a genocide against russians too! There is a reason why “conspiracy theorists” talk about “the jew revolution” and “the jews ruled USSR”.

occupybacon

Speaking about the jews, they jyst gave the orders, the young soldiers who pulled the teiggers or assisted passively, were Russians. That’s why communism revilutions won only in backwoards countries like Russia and China, cause they are subhumans that blindly follow orders and kill their own relatives if a boss say so.

Mark M. Nobelman

Editor is still butthurt over Turkish deployment to Karabakh. It was always written on the walls. I just don’t know how someone whos into geo-politics couldn’t see that simple outcome. Azerbaijan and Turkey have defense treaty and all land regained by Azerbaijan is Azerbaijani territory. Turkey has access to all Azerbaijani territories with Aliyev invitation

Random Dude

All pro-Russians are looking for a Russian victory under every stone. Azerbaijan won the war, victory to Russia, Ethiopia crushed the rebels victory to Russia, stalemate in Libya victory to Russia. All these pro-Russian patriotic stance will turn back as a frustration.
The best would have been to have a moderately neutral expectation. But well, everyone has their own choice.

Zionism = EVIL

The Froggies are even more butthurt, you should read the little Jew midget Macron’s comments just a few minutes ago:

France calls for limiting Turkey’s role in Karabakh conflict and pushes for an arms embargo and economic sanctions.

Mark M. Nobelman

lol he didn’t say that. He said Russia and Turkey are pushing out the western powers from the region which is true. He admitted being pushed out and to be honest dude has no dog-fight and whatever he says means little.

Here is the article
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-armenia-azerbaijan-france/fearing-turkish-role-france-wants-international-supervision-in-nagorno-karabakh-idUKKBN27Z3AY

BlueHeadLizard

True does not look like either Armenia or Azerbaijan are joining NATO soon. But still a massive US “embassy” (base?) in Yerevan and Pachinyan is still in power, so West not fully dislodged yet.

occupybacon

As economic chrisis looms above EU you’ll hear more of that from Macron.

John Brown

As economic chrisis looms above the USSA, the JEU and JATO.

occupybacon

And JuPiter is in UrAnus.

Mark M. Nobelman

Honestly I have chatted with few Russians and they are geninuely realistic and decent ppl but the once making the weird analogies and out of the loop are mainly Indian peasants and some lowly Iranians. Who are from 3rd world countries and spamming the comment sections childish stuff

Frank

Frankly, a third world cretin like yourself should learn English first, it is Nobleman which you sure ain’t. Pretending to be a white trash troll and disparaging Indians and Iranians. But very transparent, since you have not mastered either trolling or English.

Mark M. Nobelman

Lol. I never claimed english to be my first language but my name is not Noble.. It is Nobel.

I welcome grown up comments but not comments from some lowly indian peasants and do you know how I spot indians? Due to their positivity? They would post delusional stuff and lies contrary to reality. Like events that has not even happened and it is something that doesn’t happen outside of the peasant indian circle 3rd worldish backyard

Frank

Sorry chum, not Indian or from Asia by a long shot, but just spotted your poor syntax which most third worlders make. Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.

Mark M. Nobelman

Lmao. You got very personal there exposing yourself as an Indian sub-human low caste.

Let me tell you this nobody likes the Indians except as slaves in the European continent. In fact they just don’t like them period. This weirdly hurts the Indians but hey you gotta accept realities on the ground

Frank

Your hatred of Indians indicates your Pakistani origins. Now enough of attention seeking. Buy some learn English for Dummies books :)

Mark M. Nobelman

Stop forcing yourself and smell the perfume. Wake up to reality

thomas

pakistani shiittt

Harry Smith

Don’t forget Ukrops please.

Rhodium 10

Yesterday I read AZ people coments in YT where Russian troops were escorting AZ vehicles….almost all of them blame Russian forces to occupy AZ lands!…another day I read coments of Turkish about Russian deployment in Sirte and Ras Lanuf…which means the facto to control the main petrol export area….and you talk about fustration?…give me that kind of Fustration.

Zionism = EVIL

Azerbaijan has achieved nothing, Russia exploited the idiot Erdogan and let him achieve a Pyrrhic “victory”, the reality is that Russia has moved a very large number of its best troops in the Caucasus with the aim of long term occupation. Russia is very worried about Salafism in the region and will not allow Turks to get a hold of Azerbaijan. All this excitement betrays reality. Russia has achieved its two primary goals, kicking NATO influence out and have both Azerbaijan and Armenia as vassals. Turkey will have to make a choice which by itself is fraught with perils, either confront Russia via Salafist terrorists or accept Russian dominance. Militarily, Turkey is no match for Russia, which is the primary nuclear power in the world. I don’t think even Erdogan will be that stupid.

Rhodium 10

Many Armenians suspect that indeed pro western Pashinyan wanted a Total defeat in NK and the lost of all territory to later blame Russia and finally expel Russian troops and break the CSTO…NATO troops close to Iran and to link Georgia with Armenia beside Turkey under NATO control , the control of gas/petrol routes (TNP) and deploy an Antimissile shield would be the main purpose of the alliance which in exchange would be sent economic aid to Armenia and promises of be part of EU…. We have seen in Serbia how pro western governments( all of them apparently Russian friends) have sold to NATO the pseudocalifate of Kosovo and Montenegro! which means in the first case to give up a Serbian province and in the second case to lose the access to the Adriatic sea.

Fog of War

” Many Armenians suspect that indeed pro western Pashinyan wanted a Total defeat in NK and the lost of all territory to later blame Russia and finally expel Russian troops and break the CSTO. ”

If he warranted that why did he agree to the deal then ?

Rhodium 10

What deal man?…Russia was ready to intervene with or without approval of AZ and Armenia!…just minutes after the deal there were in Goris close to Lachin Russian Tanks, Apc, Trucks, BMP-21 deployed as well as close to Nakhshivan…Russia have taken Stepanakert, Martaterk and Martouni and lachin corridor under his protection.

Fog of War

Russia is only deployed in whats left of the Armenian held area. The deal was to stop the fighting and possibly hold negotiations over NK in the future. However, the fact remains the UN, including Russia, recognizes all of NK as Azeri land. If Russia tries anything ” funny ” in the area its deployed in it will get a diplomatic beating like it hasnt seen before. They are only supposed to be there as peace keepers. Now if Russia is preparing for something else, possible war ? , then thats a whole different story.

Rhodium 10

I have seen a video in an Armenian channel of lachin corridor…are full of Russian Tanks, Apc,rocket launchers, Trucks…NK areas wihout Az control will turn in a Russian Oblast with Ruble as a currency and Armenian people with Russian passport…it is the best way to keep Armenians living there and improve the economy.

Fog of War

Pure speculation, and it goes against Putin’s favorite ” international law “. Also it go against Armenian aspirations ,and Azerbaijan’s full legal rights. I would love to see Russia try to justify such an action on the world stage. It would be geopolitical suicide at this point. If Russia is putting heavy armed forces in there its probably for a totally different reason, and I doubt its a potential attack from Azerbaijan . Something else is afoot.

Random Dude

Your situation assessment is based on social media comments?:)))) CNN-is that you?:))

paolinks

Aliyev Says “Normality” With Armenia Possible With “Healthy Forces” In Power

ehm, this looks like a big russian victory to me…no!?!

Random Dude

what do you think would be the reaction of Armenians to that statement coming from Aliyev?

paolinks

Aliyev’s statement was just another ( agreed with Russia ) push to force armenians to depose Pashinyan. One thing is clear since the start of the war…Pashinyan must go!!

Finally Putin has woken up and has started using Soros’ strategies.

Wannabee strongmen are always removed from power ( or from Earth! ) whenever they lose a major war.

Random Dude

So you claim all Armenians will rally behind Aliyev and do as he says?:))

paolinks

No. But they will think about what Aliyev is saying. They will compare it with the tragic reality and will say: “Heck, he is right. Pashinyan screwed us hard”.

Random Dude

So are you saying they hate Pashinyan more than they hate Aliyev?:))

Svincius Savickas

Russian troops in Nagorno Karabah. Russian military in Armenia – expanded. Russian presence in South Cauvasus – increased. Baku is a hostage now – if tries to do anything against Armenians – Nagorno-Karabah will be the next Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Ankara cannot do anything either. You may call it whatever you want. Frustration is not for Russia, but for the Russophobes. Turkey is nothing but a regional power with ambitions for a Great Power, but ambitions and reality are two different things. Once Russia puts on the Kurds, and with the ambitions of Turkey will be over. Russia does not play dirty like Ankara or Washington. Ankara supports terrorists in Syria, right? Openly! Russia could do the same with Nagorno-Karabah sending there its own troops, air force, etc, but Russia respects the international law. Fact is fact – Russia stopped the war, and Turkish expansion in Caucasus was also blocked.

Random Dude

:))). oki

Servet Köseoğlu

Well-done..lol..its south-front narrative russia and iran is ultimate-super-puper power of the world..Azerbaijan retaken its enormous parts of its land..but these twice defecated piece of offals are still denying…ignore, mock and contempt is bliss..))) and funniest part is when you talk about a subject which is not related with geography they are still commenting out of nothing Russia and iran is extremely powerful and Turkey is 3rd world country…ahahaha…star-bucks resistance- join the resistance..

Rhodium 10

Of course Iran is not a superpower but meanwhile have smashed 2 US bases, have shot down many US drones included the sofisticate Global Hawk, have shot down every Israeli made drone close to its NK-Iran border, have captured US Marines and British petrol wessels…and what about Russia?.. have taken control of 100% Crimea, 90% of Syria, 80% of Libya and now 3 main cities in NK..included the capital ( Stepanakert) adding Martakert and Martouni beside the Lachin corridor!..

Servet Köseoğlu

Is it argumentum ad nauseam day or something? I see no reason to repeat your point rather than making a rebuttal.

Zionism = EVIL

Pashinian fires the Armenian Defence Minister and blames him for the defeat LOL

On Friday, media sources revealed that the Armenian authorities are
in the process of appointing an advisor to the Armenian Prime Minister,
Nikol Pashinyan, as the Defense Ministe, David Tonoyan, is reportedly
preparing to stepdown after being blamed for the country’s defeat..

According to the Armenian publication Aravot, Tonoyan is stepping down and has notified the government.

Random Dude

Inventing stories and non existent victors will not change any reality on the ground. There were 2 countries in this war. One won another one lost. Pretty simple.

Ernest

Russia.

Random Dude

Zimbabwe

BlueHeadLizard

Yes. If Armenia had won, Russia peace keeping forces would be taking up different positions closer to Baku and we would be talking about peace keeping forces to protect O&G pipelines out of Baku and not keeping the Lachin corridor open.

Frank

Turkey has bankrupted its economy and Russia is now in total control of both Armenia and Azerbaijan. Turkey has been sidelined to an inferior onlooker with tacky flags, and that is about it.

BlueHeadLizard

Peace keeping at Russia expense while Azerbaijan, Turkey’s cultural + historic ally, completes takeover of 3/4s of Armenians occupied N-K. Azerbaijan road to Nachivan putting Armenia southern territory under threat in the future. Remaining Armenian N-K tiny and totally isolated so any Armenian’s left will abandon it anyway. The territory split in this region has a major shift for Christian to
Muslim so is Armenia’s and Russia’s defeat.

Sure Turkey is doing badly economically (who isn’t these days?), that is separate discussion. Analysing this conflict Azerbaijan and so also Turkey have a major victory.

Ernest

Russia is the only winner.

Frank

Russia is also the only superpower in the region with nuclear weapons, while Turkey is a third world cannon fodder client of US and NATO and its military can be crippled with Uncle Sam’s sanctions anytime.

BlueHeadLizard

So Russia (a superpower) victory over Turkey is not much then. But a historical and cultural ally loosing a massive chunk of territory in a short war is a defeat.

Rhodium 10

Look at map and see the the size of Russia and the Turkey..and then tell me!

Zionism = EVIL

100% of Turkish airforce is of Americunt manufacture as previous clients like Pakistan found it the hard way, just blocking the spares in one day can cripple the Turkish airforce. Same with the economy. People should never forget that Turkey is vulnerable state beset with domestic problems. Even bigger and more impotent losers are the EU arseholes who like the Frenchfaggots kept barking about supporting Armenia, but did fuckall, even in their own neighborhood. How lame is that ?.

Zionism = EVIL

Who’s the big winner in the Nagorno-Karabakh peace deal? Russia.
As smoke clears from the battlefields around Nagorno-Karabakh and the
ink is drying on the three-page peace deal aimed at halting the worst
fighting between Armenia and Azerbaijan in decades, one thing seems increasingly clear: The Kremlin has won.

ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ

” Who’s the big winner in the Nagorno-Karabakh peace deal? Russia.”

WRONG … who owns the pipeline that starts from Baku and ends at the Turkish port of Ceyhan ??? Russia is also lost … and in the future it will lose more. Why do they allow Erdogan-Aliyev to spread death, Turkish F-16s to bomb Armenian civilians and even shoot down fighters of Russian origin? Why does the West allow Erdogan to set another fire on the region? So let’s open the share register to see who the real owners of this pipeline are.

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Rhodium 10

Russian troops are now deployed just at 40km of that O&G pipelines beside have troops in South Ossetia also close to that pipelines!..do you know what it means?…in case of Turkish-Russia war that pipelines would be closed like Turkstream and Bluestream…if it is a NATO-Russia war…Yamal, Soyuz and Northstream would be closed too!…and then send petrol wessels and tell captains that Russian subs with long range antiship missile are waiting you…

ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ

ha ha ha none of this will happen …. Russia is a weak country even Rosneft does not belong to the Russian state, but to individuals …. the pipelines belong to others. After sacrificing Artsakh … now he will sacrifice Ukraine …

paolinks

Uhm so?? Turkey now has more oil!?! Russia serves both the EU and China. There is a big ( quantitatively speaking ) difference.

Turkey is in no way able to threatened Russia’s dominance in the gas and oil markets.

Frank

To be Frank, things have really worked out to Russian advantage. Putin weakened Armenia and now it is back in the fold.

BlueHeadLizard

Armenia should not have left the fold in the first place, the massive US “embassy” is still there, and Pashinyan still in power formally, no visible pro Russia challenger yet.

Harry Smith

You have to wait. Pashinyan makes one mistake after another. Anyway Armenians are those who have to change the govt. and not Russia.

John Brown

Yes but Russia has to help as the USSA and Soros help the traitors stay in power.

Harry Smith

“Everybody has always underrated the Russians. They keep their own secrets alike from foe and friends.” — Winston Churchill, HOUSE OF COMMONS, 23 APRIL 1942

mhtsaropinigitakis

Azerbaijan struck the deal with Russia without first asking Turkeys opinion on the matter…Putin did not allow him the 30 mis phonecall he wanted with Erdogan before the deal was struck…this is so funny

occupybacon

It was not needed because Putin asked Erdogan first.

Rhodium 10

jajajaj again you and your jokes…

occupybacon

Erdogan was on the other line with Putin.

mhtsaropinigitakis

lol he did not

occupybacon

But what if he did? :)

Lero

Russia is nothing more than the willing supervisor of a demise of yet another christian and orthodox people, this time for the benefit of Turks. In 1999 a Russian unit entered Kosovo to pacify the few remaining Serbs (they hoped for protection) just for Putin to hand them over to “friend George (Bush)” after NATO forces consolidated their position a few years latter. Five years earlier Russia decorated the fascist leader of Croats seemingly for the successful expulsion of the orthodox Serbs from their homes and villages. In all this cases the Russian orthodox church has been deafeningly silent too. Russia is a fake orthodox country from hell.

Harry Smith

Don’t say it’s true or lie, but just saying what I have read from a Telegram channel which is close to Russian counterintelligence. Armenian overseas oligarchs payed to Armenian diaspora in Russia about 30 millions of US dollars for making Russians opinion to join the NK war on side of Armenia. And only 4 millions of USD were spent on real actions and pro-Armenian trolls. The rest of money magically disappeared.

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