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Azerbaijani Drones Continue To Inflict Heavy Losses On Armenian Forces In Nagorno-Karabakh (Videos)

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Azerbaijani combat drones continue to inflict heavy losses on Armenian forces in the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh.

On October 17, the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan shared several videos of dozens of recent strikes on Armenian troops.

The videos show at least 50 strikes on gatherings and supply trucks of Armenian forces, as well as the targeting of:

  • 11 BM-21 multiple rocket launchers;
  • 7 T-72 battle tanks;
  • 2 MT-LB armored vehicles;
  • 1 BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicle;
  • 1 9K33 Osa air-defense system.

The Azerbaijani MoD also shared footage of intense shelling with artillery and rocket launchers on Armenian positions in Nagorno-Karabakh.

Furthermore, the Azerbaijani media released a video showing a loitering munition strike at an Armenian BM-30 Smerch heavy multiple rocket launcher. An Israeli-made IAI Harop loitering munition was likely used.

Azerbaijani Drones Continue To Inflict Heavy Losses On Armenian Forces In Nagorno-Karabakh (Videos)

Despite sustaining heavy losses, Armenian forces are showing fierce resistance. On October 17, Azerbaijani troops failed to make any noticeable gains in Nagorno-Karabakh. Baku also accepted a new ceasefire that’s set to begin at 12:00 PM local time.

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catalin zt

I’ve seen some muslim single neuron,goat lovers, worshipping mohammed alias THE PAEDOPHILE from Hell, firing some artillery….

farbat

whats the islamophobia about it has nothing to do with muslims and yet you are behaving like a disgusting hatemongerer

The Objective

Muslims don’t worship any human like you Christians do.
We worship the God who created your human god (Jesus) and his mother (Mary). Christians certainly deserve hell for this stubbornness not to objectively study Muhammad’s message before concluding whether he’s false or true.
When Christians (believers in trinity) go to hell, they shouldn’t blame anyone but themselves. The Qur’an is there for you to study and verify – that’s what any sane lover of God would do. But you dismiss it upfront without even knowing its content. And you think you are without guilt because you were born in a Christian family. You have no reason not to study and be sure you are on the right track. Does God not deserve even 10 years of your life studying the Quran to verify? Yet it won’t take any serious learner more than 3 years to understand the Quran. And God gives you many years to live. You claim to love him, but you don’t wanna spend even a year to verify anyone claiming to have message from the same God you claim to love. You surely deserve hell if you die in such a state.

Not Indian Paul

If you desired truth, you wouldn’t believe the things you do.

The Objective

I read the bible before concluding it’s full of flaws.
Have you read the Quran or Hadiths?

Not Indian Paul

You don’t need to read the bible, you need to repent, and acknowledge you are born into sin. Believe that Jesus, God’s beloved Son, died on your behalf, that you may have a new life. Get baptised in water and get baptised in the Holy Spirit. Then you will understand the mystery Of God.

The Objective

And where did you get that information about Jesus? Is it not through the bible. So we can just discard the bible? why then was it written in the first place.
This is a Christian delusion the Holy Qur’an condemns in many places. God wants you to reason and detect the truth by studying whatever message his messengers bring. Jesus made this clear when he said “an evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign”. He was rebuking those seeking a miracle before they believe.
A true Muslim doesn’t believe blindly. We cross-examine. And looking at the innumerable scientific errors in the bible, we know certainly those errors are not from God. That means the Bible has been tampered with. If so, how can we trust that the rest of what it says is from God? especially those we cannot prove scientifically?
It is because of the many errors in the bible that Illuminati started in Europe. These biblical errors also led to the separation of Church and state. The same biblical errors is the reason there are so many bibles and Christians to not have a unified version that all believe in. If you are catholic, I’ll ask if you’d agree to use the Jehova Witnesses bibble, or a protestant bible, orthodox bible, and so on.
We Muslims use reason, that’s why you have been unable to penetrate our believes like you did others.

Not Indian Paul

When a man receives God’s Holy Spirit, he knows God. God is not of the carnal mind. You will not be able to find Him because you think you already have. Like I said, if you really wanted to know the truth, you would find Him.

The Objective

So in essence, the bible if useless in getting to find God? Where from do Christians learn about Jesus? The holy spirit just teaches them without the bible? then why are you guys printing millions of bibles?
One last question: What do you know about Muhammad and message he brought?

Not Indian Paul

Your not understanding my point. Before I was. Christian I nearly went to a Mosque in search of God, but I found Jesus, so I never bothered.

The Objective

So you haven’t read the bible? Just found Christ like that?

Not Indian Paul

Well, sort of. What I’m saying is, you can’t become a Christian intellectually. There’s no point reading it if think by making sense of it you’ll then be a Christian. Personally, when Jesus said, ‘blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness, for they shall be filled’. Knowing that I was a wretched man, this was something that convicted me of my sin. It was something I truly desired, to be right with God. Also, I was convicted by the words of John the Baptist. He compelled me to want to get baptised. It didn’t understand it, but I knew it was something that I had to do. It wasn’t until I was born again and I had the Spirit of God dwelling within me (the Holy Spirit) , was I then able to read and understand it. Although a lot of it is easy to understand, only those who are God’s can relate to a lot of it’s teachings. So yes, I was drawn to God through the bible and I use it to share the Gospel, but meeting God, is a spiritual experience, not an intellectual one. For example, I walked into a church straight off the street not knowing anyone, by faith I walked in there, wanting to know if God was real, I was baptised, I received the Holy Spirit whom God had promised to give to all that believe, and in that moment, I was changed forever, my sin was forgiven, my addictions and chains fell off me, my anger and frustration was gone, and my broken heart was healed and I knew God was real. I’d found everything is was looking for, which I thought was not possible. I didn’t learn it, it was a gift.

The Objective

“For example, I walked into a church straight off the street not knowing anyone, by faith I walked in there, wanting to know if God was real”
I did that too, but I didn’t stop there. I also walked straight to the mosque and studied the Qur’an to hear what it has to say about God and Jesus.
If you are sincere to yourself, then you’ll also walk straight to Islam and learn with an open heart to understand even without first becoming Muslim. Study the Quran and Hadith. Understand the message of Prophet Muhammad. Then and only then can you conclude for sure if He was really sent by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

When two people (Christianity and Islam) conflict, you’ll want to hear from both before drawing a conclusion. Especially on a matter as crucial as salvation.

You only know Christianity. How can you then reach an objective conclusion? If you really love God, you’ll accept his message regardless of whom God sent, whether Arab, Black, Asian, Jew, etc. And you can ONLY know for sure after you fully understand the message of that person. If he’s a false prophet, it’s easy to find out. God surely will expose the person’s falsehood to you at some point if your intention is pure. The bible encourages people to be wise and use reason. That’s the only way you can detect a false Prophet.

If you love God, you always want to hear whatever message someone claims to bring from God. You’ll want to verify. If it’s true, you’ll believe and live by it. If it’s false, you distance yourself from it and warn others.

So what do you know about the Holy Quran or Prophet Muhammad? Just give me an honest answer. You can also ask me questions about the Bible, Christ, and his Mother.

Not Indian Paul

Don’t know what happened to my reply. It’s gone. Too discouraged to repeat myself.

Porc Halal

After so much turdish-azeri shitty propaganda you might think that they have distroyed armenian army 1000 times now, and still there is no proof of azery army presence in N-k!…so weird…

aces

real map is here…comment image
some examples of footages from town centers in nk…hadrut and jabrayıl…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HopYY5BHZPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-lN3JF9JKE

SevenMoons

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Vox Populi

Another footnote in history with profound geo-strategic implications on the region and Russo-Persian alliance.

“Therefore, as of today, the Islamic Republic of Iran may procure any
necessary arms and equipment from any source without any legal
restrictions and solely based on its defensive needs, and may also
export defensive armaments based on its own policies,” the UN statement
read.

Putin Apologist

“As of today, all restrictions on the transfer of arms, related activities and financial services to and from The Islamic Republic of Iran, and all prohibitions regarding the entry or transit through territories of the United Nations Member States previously imposed on a number of Iranian citizens and military officials, are all automatically terminated.” — Iran’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement on midnight local time, October 18

Vox Populi

This is humiliating defeat for the US and Israeli lobby and shows how much the world has changed. I don’t believe Iran will rush into an arms purchasing spree, but will strengthen its ties with Russia and China and export its battle tested weaponry to allies in the region. Venezuela, Syria and Lebanon have already shown interest.

Putin Apologist

I agree, the Zionist occupied regime in Washington seriously overplayed it hand when it unilaterally exited the JCOPA.

Vox Populi

The US is a declining power in great financial, domestic and global military strife and its European vassals are like the Arab world, divided and impotent. The very fact that Turkey is operating so blatantly shows NATO is disarray and EU as totally impotent. We are witnessing a new Eurasian Renaissance and the key powers are just realigning their priorities. Israel is more of a nuisance than a real power, it basically is the tail that wags the US bully dog.

Putin Apologist

I agree, with much of what you say but I’m not sure Erdogan is acting totally outside the wishes of Washington. Washington wants to surround Russia and Iran with NATO vassals and the Armenians, and the Syrians, are in the way.

Vox Populi

I also believe that Erdogan has support from the US, otherwise a tiny aid dependent entity like Israel would not be supplying unlimited drones to Azerbaijan. Turkey, despite all the claims here is totally dependent on US weapons, 100% of its aircraft are of US manufacture F-16. So operating without US and NATO backing is out of the question. Turkey and Israel are also arming Ukraine, which is the new launch pad against Russia and eventually Azerbaijan will be against Iran.

Putin Apologist

Exactly, and ask yourself why did Washington abandon the Kurds? Trump, Netanyahu and Erdogan are working together, and their targets are Russia and Iran

Vox Populi

That is an astute and logical deduction. But wars have unexpected results and I believe that US policies and agendas mostly fail. They propped up the Shah and Saudis as regional allies previously and we saw the results. The lost wars in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan are nothing to write home about.

Putin Apologist

The Russians, the Persians and the Chinese, sure, I don’t give the Zionists’ plans a snowball’s chance in Hell either…. but it could bring on a global war.

John Brown

If Azer attacks Iran they will case to exist. I don’t believe they are that dumb.
I also believe that Erdogan has support from the US,
Then why is the USSA making financial war against Turkey

The Turkish economy near total collapse.
Turkey can switch to Russian jets very easily. No one wants to buy from USSA any more as the can put sanctions against you the next day.
Israel would not be supplying unlimited drones to Azerbaijan.
Israel is ruled by greed and evil and they want cash

Vox Populi

You are both right of course. The Zionist regime is a global nuisance for over 70 years now and fishes for trouble and inflame conflicts which have nothing to do with the illegal occupation of Palestine. The Zionists are involved in Indian occupied Kashmir, arming India in its suicidal and needless confrontation with China over un demarcated Himalayan peaks, they are involved in arming Taiwan in the South China seas tensions, now engaged in Yemen etc, etc.

Israel was created by the dying imperialist powers post WW2 as an Anglo imperialist outpost in the heart of the Arab and wider Muslim world. Most Europeans were not a party to this endless nuisance. In its heyday as a global power the US coerced most of NATO vassals into a defacto alliance with the Zionist entity and that devious policy has now shifted to Asia and Eurasia with Ukraine and now Azerbaijan as epi-centers. The Zionists are also involved in “normalization” with Sunni puppet regimes from UAE, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia for mostly financial benefit and mass rip off of the petro-Arabs to fund their occupation of Palestine. So far Turkey is pretty much the point of this policy and its actions in Syria, Libya and Azerbaijan have full US and NATO blessings.

Ashok Varma

India has checks and balances and Zionist policies are only supported by a fringe BJP and the idiot Modi. He is on his way out. Modi like Erdogan is a direct result of CIA meddling in other countries internal affairs.

Veja beral

I think russia is more close to pakistan than india now a days.

The Objective

You are delusional to think the US and Europe are impotent, even though they are losing some of their power.
Despite America’s decline, it still packs enough punch to turn Iran into another Syria or Somalia.

The Objective

Do not be fast in waving the victory flag yet. Let the dust settle over the US election and we see what happens.

John Brown

There is no US they are the slaves of the racist supremacist global Jewish satanic slave empire dictatorship.

The Objective

In writing, the arms embargo is lifted. But in effect, it’s still there. The only difference is that it has increased the risk of a US war on Iran – something Iran desperately tries to avoid.

Ashok Varma

US nightmare comes true: Iranian arms embargo lifted, they are free to import weapons and sell military equipment.

The Objective

Yeah, it makes little or no difference because Europe has an arms embargo on Iran. Both Europe and America will sanction any country conducting arms business with Iran. China and Russia will not commit economic suicide to please the Mullahs. Even if there is any arms deal with Russia and China, it’ll be extremely limited. And if Iran attempts to ship weapons openly to Militias around the world, then be sure of a US war that brings the Mullahs to their knees even if it harms U.S military facilities in the region.
Iran is betting on the fact that America won’t risk its assets in the Middle East to destroy the Mullahs. I think this thinking is deeply flawed

Ahson

Iran ships tons of weapons to its proxies as is, covertly. What the fuck kind of difference shipping them openly would make?….lol. What a moot point you raised here?

The Objective

A large Iranian weapons shipment was seized by America last year. If Iran ships covertly, then it outmaneuvers the Americans. But if America were to know of any Iranian arms shipment, it’ll seize it just like it did last year.

Iran may decide to ship these arms openly in the future. The U.S will still attempt and interdiction. And that will spark a war if Iran tries to retaliate in kind. That’s why the controversial lifting of this arms embargo may bring the Mullahs closer to a war they are trying desperately to dodge.

Ahson

With the exception of a few, most of those ‘seized’ shipments were staged fakes. Iran has rejected those seizure claims as fakes. However, you are right on one count that Iran tries avoiding an open war, because it is winning with its proxy war. No kidding.

The Objective

I’ve learned not to ever believe anything Iran denies. No government lies like the Iranian government. They have mastered the art of denial to such a level it’s almost impossible not to believe them.
Iran is not winning this proxy war. I want you to remember what I’m telling you right now. The next four years is highly like to see a near region-wide war against Iran’s proxies. They’ll be attacked in Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria. The only exception might be Yemeni Houthis.
In Lebanon, a Civil war is likely. In Syria, Israel will intensify bombing campaigns. In Iraq, the US will directly crush the PMU. In Afghanistan, the Taliban will have America’s support to crush the Fatemiyoun. Taliban doesn’t even need America’s support. The U.S should just leave, and see what Taliban will do to the Fatemiyoun.
Iran was wining when the world let it create militias. Now these militias are under an existential threat.
My biggest prayer is for Trump to win the election. Then you’ll see all these things I’m telling you play out like a movie.

Ahson

dude, I think you seriously need to get off the meth. You are just jiving around here. Iran’s got everything nice and squared away. The US or Israel got zero resources to try to alter the status quo. You will need to provide hundreds of billions and hundreds of thousands of jihadi to dislodge Iran from half a dozen countries. You understand? Who’s goin provide the Al-Qaeda jihadi and funding? your daddy sawdi? or is it goin be the busted ass turkish oglu toglu mongol? which one now? You already tried that over the last decade and failed? Quit jiving man……be realistic!

The Objective

“or is it goin be the busted ass turkish oglu toglu mongol? which one now?”
The answer to the above question is: the same people who assassinated the great general openly.

“You will need to provide hundreds of billions and hundreds of thousands of jihadi to dislodge Iran from half a dozen countries”
Not necessarily. The same half dozen countries have people who oppose these militias. So a civil way will be easy to stir up. I don’t advocate for such a solution though.

We’ll know after the U.S election.

Ahson

you try stirring shit up, Iran will respond……make no mistake. So far you’ve miserably failed to do much. Iran’s in a very strong position now. Nothing short of a direct US occupation in the SyRaq will alter the situation. And it ain’t happening. Elections won’t change the US ME policy…….grow up.

The Objective

You deserve to read this, and take note of what Zarif says. Zarif is seeing a war coming and Russia, China, Iran, are doing all they can to avert this war. I want you to know this is Iran’s fault for creating militias all over the Middle East. This was a major policy error for an Iran that seeks to avoid war. The militias make war inevitable. Iran cannot disown them, neither can it prevent the U.S from trying to destroy these militias.
https://news.yahoo.com/russia-calls-collective-security-gulf-024704101.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIDTv68elheilsf1rNxuHJS5ApHHvcn9Cv1XieE73_DXjT-LGD0EU2VBXIeiUtmVgFD1Cd1dGnmXNHtZvfh-wjUKLvDrQGUg6Rhn9uUE3fD9RU0ALHMAyRR-iJpUbw8j4eXKVT9JY-zCqiZTckXRcztJAafJaHzQ4ZDPANMPeJFK

“Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said the U.S. deployment of nearly 50,000 troops in the Persian Gulf in 29 military installations, with more than 300 combat aircraft, and its hundreds of billions of dollars of arms sales “have enhanced neither the security of the external powers, nor of the region.”

Putin Apologist

That is wishful thinking. The Empire, as we all know, is in sharp decline. Though it can still tell the Europeans better much what to do it has no leverage with the Russians or the Chinese. And, as the Russians are themselves already under sanctions and the Chinese economy being so intertwined with that of the West that any serious attack on its economy would seriously damage the economies of both Europe and America.

That leaves the regime in Washington with only the military option but given the economic problems and political divisions within the country and the country’s disastrous outcomes in both Iraq and Afghanistan it seems highly unlikely that any president would entertain such a foolish military misadventure. Add to this deterrence the fact that Washington’s military complex is preoccupied with the emergence of China and the reemergence Russia as global competitors and thus cannot afford to get itself bogged down in another loosing war for the Jews in the Middle East. No, Washington post-Cold War military misadventures are a thing of the past.

As for what Iran is going to buy, Iran has its own arms industry but I suspect it with buy from both Russia and China to overcome any deficiencies, like combat aircraft?

The Objective

” it has no leverage with the Russians or the Chinese”
Do you know how many hundred billions China makes from the USA? Are you telling me China will risk all this for Iran?
Your talk about America’s preoccupation with the China doesn’t imply that Iran is off the hook.
If Iran insists on maintaining its proxies in the middle east, there will definitely be a war. Because America will seek to destroy these militias by whatever means necessary regardless of who wins the election. The U.S isn’t likely to attack Iran directly without any major provocation, like crossing a nuclear redline. But should American troops be killed in sufficient numbers by Iran’s militias, a direct attack on Iran becomes almost inevitable.
The best Russia and China can do for Iran is sell it some weapons and provide diplomatic cover. Russia and China do not agree with the ideology of the Mullahs.

Putin Apologist

What I’m “telling” you; it is not the 1980s or the 1990s, today, China economy is so intertwined or interwoven, if you prefer, with the West’s that Washington can only go so far with its economic warfare against China without destroying its own economy.

Trump talks a good game but in the end there is little the man can do to China or Russia and by extension Iran.

The Objective

Yes, I understood your point the first time. And what I’m saying is that China is not about to sacrifice $500+ billion yearly to please the Mullahs.

Putin Apologist

No, I don’t think you understand. The Americans have, foolishly, over the course of the last thirty years deindustrialized, the Europeans did likewise. No nation can with a snap of a finger redeindustrialize . Such an undertaking could and would take decades. Meaning, like it or not the Americans and the Chinese are going to be doing business with each other for the foreseeable future.

For China it is not about “pleasing the Mullahs” it’s about sovereignty, and China, nor Russia, is going to surrender it to Washington.

Another way to see it; Washington and Beijing are locked in a geopolitical struggle for global influence, for global dominance, and in this case, Iran is the prize.

The Objective

So Iran is just a price after all. That means you admit Iran is expendable, coming back to my point.

Putin Apologist

“Russia and China do not agree with the ideology of the Mullahs.”

Okay, but there’s a couple of proverbs I’m sure you’ve heard.

1) the enemy of my enemy is my friend
2) business is business

The Objective

“Business is business” works in America’s favor as far as China is concerned.
“the enemy of my enemy is my friend” doesn’t mean I’m willing to commit economic or nuclear suicide.

The Objective

Propaganda!!!
This statement was made by IRAN not UN.
https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2020/10/18/2371357/iran-issues-statement-on-termination-of-arms-embargo

If Iran attempts to ship its weapons of terror to the militias infesting several countries, I’m sure it’ll spark a war with the US as they will interdict such shipments and Iran might feel obliged to retaliate.
America needs Trump as president. I hope the Americans realize this crucial moment is not for weak or risk averse politicians. As far as I can see, Trump is the only president that will knock sense into Iran.

Not Indian Paul

Lol, Trump ruined any hope the US had in the Middle East when ordered the assassination of that Iranian general. It was huge geopolitical mistake that backfired, proving that Trump is nothing but an egotistical fool. US hegemony is a thing of the past.

The Objective

To me, the killing of Soleimani only brought Iran’s destruction closer. Know why? Because from then on, Iran and the U.S are on a war footing and somewhere down the road, they’ll collide, and America will crush Iran.
Iran may try to assassinate Trump and succeed. Then the C.I.A finds out. Do you think assassinating an ex-US president won’t spark a war?
Secondly, Iran will demand more from Joe Biden in any future negotiations. But Biden will not give anything without Iran dismantling its network of proxies, alongside other nuclear concessions. Dismantling Iran’s militias will effectively neutralize Iran’s power in the middle east, making it to look like North Korea or even worse.
Well, Iran isn’t going to allow destruction of the militias it took so long to create. As a result, negotiations will stall. And war becomes more imminent as Iran advance its nuclear program. Or America will seek to destroy the militias in Iran and beyond with or without Iranian cooperation. If Iran tries to stop it or significantly offers overt support, American strikes on Iranian officials should be expected even with Biden in power.
Whatever happens, Iran will either choose between a war or the disarming of its militia and nuclear program.

Not Indian Paul

Well anything is possible, but I doubt it. The Iranians succeeded in bombing a US military base in Iraq. The US did nothing.

The Objective

The U.S did nothing because that was not reason enough. Again, that same night, more that 50 U.S fighter planes were flying around the Parsian gulf. Iran clearly chickened out, otherwise there would have been a war.

A war with Iran will be bloody and costly for America. But a certain group of American and Israeli leaders have decided this war, despite its possible cost in live and treasure, must be fought if America were to effectively deal with the Iranian challenge. Another group of leaders (Obama’s camp) prefer to contain Iran instead. The challenge for this war group is how to convince Americans that the sacrifice of bringing Iran to its knees is worth making. The American public are highly averse to casualties. As soon as U.S soldiers start to die, they’ll demand an immediate ceasefire and protest until the president fulfills that demand. The American politicians learnt this lesson from the Vietnam war.

Iran fully understands this American aversion to casualties. And they are exploiting it by not giving the U.S government enough reason to convince Americans. Iran did not kill Americans after Soleimani’s assassination because it knows doing so will anger Americans who’ll then demand Trump retaliate. And Trump will do so disproportionately to force Iran to counter-attack, killing even more Americans. And so the real war starts.

But Iran didn’t take Trump’s bait, otherwise the U.S and Iran would have gone to war in January of 2020.

Putin Apologist

Answer me this: How did Iranians know their missile strike on Al-Assad airbase would not kill any Americans? The answer; the Iranians couldn’t have known.

Iran has no desire for war with the regime in Washington but at the same time it is not going to be intimidated, not by Trump, and not by Netanyahu. Iran has and will continue to develop its ballistic missile and it will continue to support (arm and train) in allies in the region and do this over the objections of Trump and Netanyahu, including its oldest ally, Hezbollah. Iran will also continue to integrate its economy into that of Russia’s and China’s. Again, there is nothing Washington or Jerusalem can do to stop Iran short of war.

And, as you and I know, neither the Americans or the Jews have the stomach for such a war. Ask yourself, how do you successfully invade and then occupy a nation of 80 million? The answer is you can’t because the cost in blood and treasure would be so high it would bring down any government that was foolish enough to try. This, despite the all of the scheming of the Zionists, makes Iran untouchable.

Alekai Mordechai

Once US starts targeting Iranian civilian officials in next 3 years. It will definitely succeed in doing so. It will raise the ante to the point that Russia and China will get involved.

No one’s gonna be safe. Sure US can sustain itself going into that rabbit hole?

The Objective

you think Russia and China will risk nuclear suicide to protect the Mullahs? That’s the biggest laugh of the day. both Russia and China will not tolerate Iran’s influence within its borders. They are aware of Iran’s tendency to create a parallel army in country it’s opportune to. They defend Iran diplomatically for geopolitical and economic reasons, not because they agree with the Mullahs. And neither Russia nor China will get into a shooting war with America over Iran. You know how many hundred billions China make in the U.S a year? Iran doesn’t even come close to providing such a market.

The Objective

you think Russia and China will risk nuclear suicide to protect the Mullahs? That’s the biggest laugh of the day. both Russia and China will not tolerate Iran’s influence within its borders. They are aware of Iran’s tendency to create a parallel army in country it’s opportune to. They defend Iran diplomatically for geopolitical and economic reasons, not because they agree with the Mullahs. And neither Russia nor China will get into a shooting war with America over Iran. You know how many hundred billions China make in the U.S a year? Iran doesn’t even come close to providing such a market. The best both can do for Iran is protect it diplomatically and sell weapons to them. If they survive, fine, otherwise it’s business as usual.

Alekai Mordechai

Do you actually think China and Russia has anything to offer to Iran in weapons export?

Its Iran who will export its weapons. Along with mix of its proxies and weapons export assassination of civilian officials in Iran seems like a good idea. Will it be effective?? Nope

Iran may not be able to take out american officials in Middle east, but they will make sure most diplomats and others get to leave.

The Objective

When Iranian officials die, they don’t come back. When American diplomats leave, they can always come back – unless covid 19 gets in the way.

Assassinating Iranian military leaders may be effective because it puts immense pressure on the regime to take some retaliatory measures severe enough to anger the american public into supporting a war. If a series of assassinations were to continue without Iran overtly retaliating, the Mullahs will lose face forever and their continued rule in Iran threatened. If they retaliate, they risk a war that might also bring down the regime.
Iran is currently between a rock and a hard place. But I think if America continues to assassinate Iranian leaders, Tehran will be forced to respond.

Alekai Mordechai

Iran already retaliated against US bases and burning convoys.

Whatever retaliations americans have up in their sleeves isn’t as much!

If Iranian leaders gets assasinated it will only make Iranians more resolved to be behind their leaders. You don’t know much about Shia history. For 1400 years their top clerics were taken out by Arabs and Turks. Nothing new to them.

You’re talking about legal missteps. US already lost the Arms Embargo marathon. When people see US is taking out leaders it will take the US to Iraq war situation.

Last thing Americans would want China in Persian Gulf.

The Objective

Keep dreaming. The last time Salahuddeen crushed Shiites, it was hundreds of years before they recover. I do respect and even pray for the Azerbaijani Shia. But I hate Iranian Shiites cos they keep meddling in Sunni societies to promote Shiism. That’s why I’m praying to Allah for an American/Israeli war that’ll destroy the Iranian forces and the regime.

Alekai Mordechai

Okay …… then your objective would be to kill all 83 million population in Iran. Do you’ve an appetite for that?

The Objective

“Okay …… then your objective would be to kill all 83 million population in Iran. Do you’ve an appetite for that?”

No. I don’t even wish that for Iran. What I want is just for Iran to stop creating militias in other countries. These guys are often not very disciplined and they end up starting a civil war that kills thousands of innocent people. My concern if for the innocent men and women caught in this indirect war. Imagine how many will die if Israel decides to attack Hezbollah. Imagine how many will die if the Iraqi government tries to forcibly disband Kataib Hezbollah.

This is the major reason I pray that Allah destroy the regime in Iran and kill all the mullahs pushing this policy. They are indirectly setting the stage for a bloodbath that’ll take millions of souls once it breaks out. Iran can deter America with its missiles without needing these militias. Iran need not deter Israel through Hezbollah. Much of Iran’s missiles can reach any point in Israel. So why create parallel armies unless you have other ulterior more deadly motives which you want to keep secret? I’m a Muslim, but honestly, I view Iran as a greater threat to Muslims that Israel. Because much of these Militias are in Muslim communities. and it is the lives of millions of Muslims at stake should a war break out.

Alekai Mordechai

May not risk nuclear war. But they will get a warm water base in Hormuz thats for sure.

China won’t be making much billions in US in next 5 years. Contingency plans says reduce dependence on US to the fullest. With trade war going on China’s appetite for US market is diminishing.

You know back in 2012, while discussing about global relations one Iranian told me its a matter of time for Arab countries to unveil their hidden friend. I didn’t take it seriously, but apparently what I am seeing, he seems to be right in this case.

US will stay in ME as long as israel’s security is established to the fullest. Unfortunately, all the countries now has to live by the sword for next 2 decades. Turks today are more dangerous than ever, Iran will soon see same fate as Pakistan vis-avis China.

In the end CHina will win and US has will have to be content with sticks.

The Objective

You are obviously a child or ill-informed. I do not want to continue this conversation.

Porc Halal

I bet the jews are ready to help iran recover the handicape, of course, for a very generous amount of shekels…;)

Free man

It’s a massacre.
Will the Armenian leadership take the only logical step and start real negotiations to end the conflict? Or will hundreds more Armenian soldiers be killed and billions of dollars worth of military equipment and other property destroyed before they do the right thing?

John Wallace

Wil the American leadership take the only logical step and start real negotiations too leave Afghanistan , Iraq and Syria and stop prodding Iran in an attempt to go to war.. Or will thousands more American soldiers and hundreds of thousands of civilians be killed and billions upon billions of dollars of military equipment and civilian infrastructure be destroyed because some neo cons want to show the world how big their cock is.

Putin Apologist

I’ll ask you the same question, what’s to negotiate?

The Americans don’t have to negotiate to leave they’re free to leave today if they so choose.

John Wallace

If you fail to understand what I wrote then I suggest read again. It is directed too the not so free man . Read what he wrote and then try again.

SevenMoons

Artskins can’t leave now. They will be shot dead if they leave N-K.

SevenMoons

Parshinyan will continue to speak loud. Or he will continue to beg for help from anyone or any country….

John Wallace

When I want to hear from you I will lift the lid on the toilet. Just keep upvoting your own bullshit .. Multiple morons. ..

Whacko

The only thing the American leadership can do and start real negotiations is to leave Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria and stop pushing Iran in the war. When there were no allies to support them because the Americans could not fight alone.

Putin Apologist

What’s to negotiate? The Armenians lived under the Ottoman yoke for 600 years, they’re not going back… better to die standing than to live on your knees.

Free man

They have no choice, they die en masse.
The only reasonable solution is to give back most of the occupied territories and in exchange for the areas where bulk of the Armenian population live, give other territories in southern Armenia.

Putin Apologist

These (Artsakh) are not “occupied territories”. These are ancient Armenian lands, lands that the Armenians were living on and dying on for thousands of years. Long before the Turkic tribes arrived to the area from central Asia, and long before Joseph Stalin gave them to Azerbaijan .

Sometimes you have to fight, and yes, die, to live in freedom.

God Bless these brave Armenian warriors, and may God grant them victory on the battlefield.

SevenMoons

This was once Mongol land. Can Mongolia claims it is their land???

Brave Armenian warriors. Do you see them trying to dodge the drone bombs like rats??

Ice Icegold

You are totally stupid

The Objective

It is you who is stupid. We see reality in the videos.

Not Indian Paul

What hope do they have against drones? What do you expect them to do?

Whacko

International law does not cover antiquity. Like the British, the Americans, some Europeans are not ancient peoples.

Putin Apologist

I don’t know about the British, or the Americans, but the Armenians are mentioned in the Old Testament of the Bible.

2 Kings 19:37

And it came to pass, as he was worshiping in the house of Nisroch his god, that Adrammelech and Sharezer his sons smote him with the sword: and they escaped into the land of Armenia. And Esarhaddon his son reigned in his stead.

Whacko

The Bible mentions the land of Armenia, it does not mean that they are an ancient nation, because the Bible always changes its contents according to the circumstances at that time.

The Objective

It is only you who believe in your bible. Doesn’t apply to people of other faith or atheists. Go make this argument in the church. As far as the world is concerned, you must prove your point with international law or at the war front.

SevenMoons

Artskins may not even have that options now. Most of the Artskins already left N-K. They are not coming back any time soon….

Ice Icegold

You are having illusions

The Objective

You seem to be a guy at the scene. Are you Azeri?

Ice Icegold

You are already dead

SevenMoons

Then die. Enrich the poor soil….

hththny

and you troll, you born here i know ..comment image

Ice Icegold

Lol

John Wallace

I see they named the town after his great grandfather but nothing has improved since.

Антон С

“nothing has improved since”

Some people could call it the tradition.)

Ice Icegold

Why don’t you die…and leave us in peace?

Whacko

Although the Armenians lived under Ottoman rule for 600 years, some of them had Ottoman statesmen and Grand Vizier of the Ottoman Empire.

Putin Apologist

I recommend The Thirty-Year Genocide: Turkeys Destruction of Its Christian Minorities, 1894–1924 . The genocide of the Empire’s Christian population; Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks.

https://www.amazon.com/Thirty-Year-Genocide-Destruction-Christian-Minorities/dp/067491645X

Whacko

I don’t buy Armenian stories. They imitated the Holocaust genocide, as if they were like Ashkenazi Jews who were oppressed and suppressed by European colonies. Who wants to gain the sympathy of the world by owning Nagorno-Karabakh land.

Only fools want to believe it.

Антон С

But genocide of christian minorities in the end of Osmanian empire is historic fact. Same as “6 million victims” We can argue, 6 millions or 1 (as one german historian said in his book and got prison term for this), but it’s also the fact.

Антон С

That’s absolutely correct. Not only against armenians (as many people thinking), but against all christians in the region. 1/2 of 1,5 million murdered people were ethnic armenians. Russia officially recognized genocide of armenians long time ago, so nobody can say it was politically motivated.

Vox Populi

Too much emotion is being vented here by all sides. This conflict is not about the survival of Armenia, but the illegal post USSR occupation of Azerbaijani territory. The only solution is for Azerbaijan to withdraw and recognize international order. That is the primary reason even Russia and Iran have not sided with the Armenian aggression.

John Brown

Easy for you to say. Then go and die at the front yourself. They can go back to Armenia if they don’t want to stay.

Armenians soldiers outflanked and being slaughtered their
army looks to be on the verge of total collapse it’s becoming a route a
humiliation a massacre.
Armenians soldiers dropping their weapons and fleeing and
running in panic around Jabril.
Looks really bad like its game over Armenia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdqyG3CcoLM
Armenians getting their asses kicked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyfriipc61A
George Soros is laughing as the puppets he installed in the
coup in Armenia are following his orders to destroy Armenia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgflCE7zRpc

Putin Apologist

What do you me “go back to Armenia”? Artsakh is Armenia, has been for thousands of years.

Exhibit A: This fourth century Armenian Christian monastery located in Artsakh (the Nagorno-Karabakh region).

https://youtu.be/zvsgYELrTkg

John Brown

“Dyin’ ain’t much of a livin’, boy”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86Nk4Fo2I9k

Armenians soldiers outflanked and being slaughtered their
army looks to be on the verge of total collapse it’s becoming a route a humiliation a massacre.
Armenians soldiers dropping their weapons and fleeing and
running in panic around Jabril.
Watch them run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcLGfn7LSvU&feature=emb_logo
Looks really bad like its game over Armenia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdqyG3CcoLM
Armenians getting their asses kicked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyfriipc61A
George Soros is laughing as the puppets he installed in
the coup in Armenia are following his orders to destroy Armenia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgflCE7zRpc

Putin Apologist

What is with you and your constant linkings to movies and television? Try reading a book or two, you might learn a thing or two.

John Brown

Most people these days only respond to TV and videos and you are responding, so it works.

SevenMoons

Parshinyan will continue to beg his Russian master for ceasefire. But Azerbaijan and Turkey only allow Artskin one or two days to pull their Artskin dead bodies. Then war will continue..

Too bad for those dead Armenians….. To defend their motherland, which is a bunch of hills and low mountains…

Ice Icegold

Dead Turkish are more

Whacko

Nagorno Karabakh no longer belongs to Armenia / Artsakh as their homeland.

Ice Icegold

You are so heroic lol. Turkish chicken..

Florin Boar

that’s about it for Russian air defense systems … they are only good on the internet, in reality useless.

Putin Apologist

The “Russian air defense systems” at Khmeimim Air Base in Syria are working just fine.

SevenMoons

It was not really tested with 100 drones at the same time….

Putin Apologist

That’s true, but then, who has “100 drones”… and the balls to attack the Russians?

Fog of War

Israhell .

SevenMoons

Turkey can. This is why Russia has left Turkey alone in Idlib.

Russia never wants to confront Turkey in Syria….

Putin Apologist

If he could he would, but Erdogan knows better than to engage in a conflict with Russia. So too do the Europeans and the Americans.

As for Idlib, all that jihadi trash was put (unarmed) on those buses and sent to Idlib by ordered of Assad where they and their families now live-out their pathetic lives in refugee camps, tents and all. Isn’t life wonderful under the Sultan?

The Objective

Things will get better for Syrians.
Both Turkey and Russia deter each other in Syria. Because they are both strong.

Putin Apologist

Ludicrous, Russia is what is commonly referred to in geopolitics as a “super-power”.

Russia’s is economically independent, in agriculture, from planting to processing, in the mining and extraction of raw materials, and in manufacturing and technology. Is Turkey?

Russia designs and manufactures its own military equipment from trucks and tanks, to combat aircraft, to warships, to intercontinental ballistic missiles, to hypersonic missiles, to, yes, even nuclear weapons. And Russia is able to do this independently… does not need to import anything, not rockets, not jet-engines, not microprocessors. Can Turkey?

The Russians showed up in Syria, at the request of the Syrians, and bombed the sh*t out of the of Turkey’s proxies, even America’s and Europe’s proxies, and none of them could stop Russia. So no, Turkey can’t and doesn’t deter Russia in Syria, even the Americans couldn’t deter Russia in Syria.

Turkey is a third rate power, and a puppet power of the Zionists, doing the bidding of Trump and Netanyahu.

The Objective

I wasn’t comparing Russia with Turkey. I only said both are militarily strong. The fact Russia has these capabilities doesn’t mean it will have victory over Turkey in Syria. And some of those magnificent Russian war equipment are getting blown up by the low-tech Turkish weaponry. Having a tech edge doesn’t guarantee victory. Ask America in Afghanistan.

Again, it doesn’t matter where you weapons come from provided you have them. And besides, Turkey made some magnificent progress in indigenous weaponry. The same Russia you talk about were once defeated by the Taliban.

If Turkey were some weak country easy to defeat, Russia wouldn’t be negotiating with the Turks.

And mind you, should Russia sufficiently threaten Turkey, then Turkey will build nuclear weapons. It already has the know how. In an emergency, it can get nukes from Pakistan, make no mistake about that. Putin will keep his threat-level against Turkey low for fear of facilitating a nuclear-armed Turkey.

So yes, Russia may be stronger theoretically, but that doesn’t guarantee victory. It also doesn’t mean Turkey is a pushover.

Russia may be a super power. But not it’s not omnipotent. And can be defeated by a relatively weaker opponent.

Putin Apologist

Otto Von Bismarck once said, “the Russians are slow to saddle but once saddled they ride like the wind”.

You can poke the Bear, for only so long, and then he is going to rip your head off. So keep poking.

The Objective

Tell that to the Taliban.

Антон С

Yeah, it’s well-known russian proverb – the russians are slow to harness, but fast to ride. It’s also called as patience. Some stupid persons think that it’s weakness.

Антон С

They are trying to become independent. Turkish potential is weaker than abilities of France or Germany, but they are more active and aggressive in international relations. Though can’t say for sure that they have enough resources to continue such policy. Agree with you in the rest parts.

The Objective

Indeed, if it came to a war between Turkey and Russia on Syrian soil, the Russian air defenses will certainly be destroyed even if Turkey sustains heavy loses as well.

Антон С

How about catching hypersonic “Dagger” flying at window of Erdogan’s palace? Could he catch it?

The Objective

All the hyper-sonic daggers in the world won’t win you a war. And you ain’t the only guys with hyper-sonic missiles. Does anyone even need hyper-sonic missiles to blow up Moscow?
And besides, the technology gap is closing rapidly. The field will soon be level. The Turks are hard-working people and I keep praying for Allah to help them. There’ll be miraculous tech leaps in the near future.
You ain’t gonna keep bullying people for long.
Soon, very soon.

Alekai Mordechai

In fact Khmeimim AB were indeed attacked multiple times with DIY swarm drones from militant groups.

Pantsirs took out most of them. There are photos of drones published by russians.

The Objective

Of course, low quality drones, through which Turkey understood how the Russian air defenses worked, found and exploited a weakness, and now drones are humiliating Russian air defense tech.

Антон С

I know about 1 case at least, when strike group consisted 12 small drones made of wood and styrofoam except their engines. Some of them were taken down by electronic countermeasures, others were hit by “Tors” and “Panzirs”. Wooden case is even harder to detect than plastic one. “Zumwalt’s” facing of the ship’s bridge was made from 1-meter wooden plates, because it absorbs radio rays of enemy radars. But our AA systems engaging even such hard targets.
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Alekai Mordechai

There’s good and bad in every thing. But lately russians are seeing more bad than good. As for US its a country that is becoming a joke.

Alekai Mordechai

SHORADS works great in numbers backed by a networked data feed.

Armenians and Syrians are stupid, perhaps their Russian memo has pages missing eh?

Антон С

It’s (almost) free demo-version. Full version is too expensive.)

Alekai Mordechai

Perhaps free trail version expired years ago.

The Objective

Those Russian air defense systems never faced sophisticated drone attacks like we saw in Libya and now in NK. The drones Russia had been shooting down in Syria were low-quality stuff cobbled together by the rebels. But I think those attacks gave Turkey a deep insight regarding how the Russian air defense tackle drones. Which is why they were able to destroy multiple such systems in Libya, Syria, and now NK.

Антон С

“Bayraktar” is not sophisticated according to you.)

The Objective

Yeah, it’s not sophisticated. That’s why I keep wondering how it managed to destroy so many advanced AA systems touted as being among the best or even the best worldwide.

SevenMoons

Well. They still command good money from Armenia. No one else sells to Armenia any more.

AJ

I guess Russia better tell all those customers of the S400s they are useless then!

The Objective

They were designed specifically to shoot down the F-35 and F-22 raptor. Seems they won’t be able to deal with those planes now.

SnowCatzor

They only have old Osa’s and Strelia’s, not exactly modern air defence, and yet they’ve still shot down dozens of shitty Turk and Israeli drones.

The Objective

We are talking about drones, not even stealth fighter jets. The Russian air defense systems are over-hyped.

SnowCatzor

Those SAM systems were built decades before drones ever saw action. They’re not ideally suited to the role. Pantsir’s on the hand have shot down dozens overSyria and Libya, for minimal combat loses.

The Objective

More than a dozen Pantsirs have been destroyed despite being manned by trained crews (Wagner in Libya). Should the full might of Turkeys TB-2 drones come to bare, it’ll suppress the Pantsir. No Russian AA system can handle a sophisticated and well-coordinated drone swarm attack. I recently saw a video where the Turks tested a swarm of suicide drones designed specifically to take out AA systems like the S-400. Those drones are expendable. It was like a flying bomb to me, and it hit the target with sharp precision. The drones were very small and appear to be cheap. Their size will make it difficult to hit them. I think their major limitation is range as they appear to be out-ranged by the S-400. Still, if they can be brought within a hundred or so kilometre of an S-400, it’s game over. Once the drone locks onto its target, it comes diving at it.

SnowCatzor

No, the vast majority of those pantsirs we’re captured on the ground (damaged by fighting) or inactive when attacked. Their is also zero evidence of Wagner operating them in Libya, that is just propaganda.

Don’t buy into the drone-hype, as they are just expensive garbage against any competent opposing force. Russia has had little problem defending its Syrian bases against tiny drone swarms, partly because of its SAM systems and partly because of electronic jamming (something the Syrians, Libyans and Armenians lack).

The Objective

To understand much of what goes on today, you must not only rely on evidence. Your ability to think critically and reason deeply is the best asset for understanding the intense disinformation flooding everywhere.

Антон С

It’s outdated as kinescope TVs (with tube inside) compared with electric diode monitors. They can’t detect and engage small low-speed targets (as light and medium UAVs). That’s why we don’t use them anymore. Some modernized “Arrows” (“Strela-10”) can be seen at drills, but they are awaiting replacement with “Pine” mobile complex – same chassis, but different missile, new guidance system and 2 times more missiles.

http://voenchel.ru/uploads/posts/2018-09/1535779461_22.05.png

The Objective

Yeah, I am now 100% sure a swarm of well coordinated drones will overwhelm the S-400. Perhaps that’s the reason China just started experimenting with drone swarm attacks – something it didn’t seem to have paid much attention to. Drones might be the antidote to Air defense systems.

Антон С

That’s why Washington regime suffers strongest hysteria and put sanctions on everyone who buys it.)

SevenMoons

Oh man, how can those Artskins continue the war? They are sitting pigs staying in their pig holes…. Waiting to die for their motherland….

All Artskins can do now is to use all of their remaining artillery and missiles to hit civilian territories.

Ice Icegold

You are so stupid

The Objective

You are the one sounding stupid, if only you knew. The reality on ground is making your argument moronic and laughable.

Антон С

Same as your nick-name? Oi wait, your nick is even more laughable, because you were nonobjective almost every time when you opened your mouth.

The Objective

Because I make objective comments does not mean I won’t have a side.

SevenMoons

Here is the South side of N-K territory. From Liveuamap, which is a Ukraine group.

Azeri army is deep to the West….
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Ice Icegold

Is deep up your arse

Антон С

It’s not even NK autonomy (Artsah) itself, but so called security belt around it, conquered in 1992-94. It consists from azeri villages abandoned after that war. That’s why they have turkic names, but not armenian. The fight is not inside NK for now.

SevenMoons

Armenia: We are ready to provide humanitarian corridor for Azerbaijani forces in Nagorno Karabakh

We do not know what corridor Armenia is talking about. It is pretty funny…..

SevenMoons

Artskins may have lost so many of its fighters that they need humanitarian ceasefire to retrieve their deads.

Hope they get time to bury them before next Azeri offense.

cliff

This war need to come to an end,right now …Enough is enough…

Alberto Garza

armenians wanted russian troops out now they want help ?

Lazy Gamer

Time for Arayik to fold and negotiate for evacuation.

Europe hates America

Armenians still dumb af… come on man keep social distancing

Leif Oskar Zetterstrøm

The last time I had a conversation with fantasy Allah in the sky, she told me that she does not like to see the foul-smelling assholes closest to her when her followers worship her.
She also said that she has tried to make contact with Imams so that they can tell Illiterate Islamists that they can stand upright like a man with their heads and hands against the sky where she live, like Christians when they worship their fantasy god.
But Allah does not get any response from his followers Imams. She’s angry about this an and will not give any more Islamists access to their fantasy paradise.

The Objective

You’ll die and meet Him.
No hurry.

Whacko

In the address of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, President Ilham Aliyev to the people today, the news of the liberation of the city of Fizuli and several surrounding villages is promptly delivered to civilians through printed bulletins and a mobile radio station. Every day the news of victory from the front makes every Azerbaijani happy.
The events are greeted with enthusiasm by civilians living in the frontline zone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIVrO8GI4p0

Vox Populi

Mr. Aliyev has staked his whole reputation and career on this conflict and back-down now will be fatal. He will have to go for broke if he has to satisfy the great expectations of his people to expel Armenia from NK. This conflict has a long way to go with many repercussions.

Whacko

As far as I know Aliyev only wanted to drive the Armenian troops out of NK, not its inhabitants.

Angela Barseghian

You are solely using Azeri propaganda, clips, and who knows, if these are not actually Azeri’s being targeted by the Armenian side? Armenians declare all their losses, whereas Azeri’s are not revealing anything…and the borders are closed for foreign correspondents, but for Turks, and there is NO freedom of speech, any human rights and freedoms, one can rely for truthful information from the Azeri side…The fact of the matter is, that Azeri’s were hoping this would be a few hour, few day war, and occupation of Artsakh, we are now in the 20th day, and the Armenian Army is standing and holding strong.

Random Dude

if you call running “holding strong”, then I will hold strong in the treadmill today:))))

Антон С

One time they are using AZ video, but another time is set of AR videos. None can say that SF is not trying to be objective.

John Brown

Well Armenian soldiers outflanked and being slaughtered their army looks to be on the verge of total collapse it’s becoming a route a humiliation a massacre.
Armenians soldiers dropping their weapons and fleeing and running in panic around Jabril.
Looks really bad like its game over Armenia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdqyG3CcoLM
Armenians getting their asses kicked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyfriipc61A
George Soros is laughing as the puppets he installed in the coup in Armenia are following his orders to destroy Armenia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgflCE7zRpc

The Objective

WhWhy spam the forum with the same message over again?

Random Dude

Fly fly fly to the sky

Paul

Either Armenia should withdraw or fight like Houthis.Russia is not coming to save Armenia.

Random Dude

2020 was not the best year for Armenians:
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Arman Melkonyan

Thank you Erdogan and thank you Azeris and Turks. And thank you Jews and Israel. Thanks for the beheading in Paris too, Islam and all you Muslims.

You have reminded the world who you truly are and what is to be done, if the human race is to survive.

There will be consequences.

Whacko

And make sure one day they don’t chop off your head…..hahahaha!

white.male

at the moment they are busy with killking each other and there is no any sign on the sky that this situation will change any time soon ;)

Chris
Chin Kok Ng
Carvin Marvin

thank you my friend

The Objective

An objective look at the live of Muslims will tell you we are the best of all people on Earth today.

Arman Melkonyan

This is what you are.

THIS IS ISLAM as recorded in the holy book of Islam, the Qur’an:

Qur’an 22:19 “Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.”

Qur’an 3:28 “Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.”

Qur’an 3:85 “Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.”

Qur’an 5:33 “Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam.”

Qur’an 8:12 “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Koran.”

Qur’an 8:60 “Muslims must muster ALL weapons to terrorize the infidels.”

Qur’an 8:65 “The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.”

Qur’an 9:5 “When opportunity arises, Kill the infidels wherever you catch them.”

Qur’an 9:28 “The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque.”

Qur’an 9:30 “The J-ws and the Christians are perverts; fight them.”

Qur’an 9:123 “Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.”

Qur’an 47:4 “Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; Behead them when you catch them.”

Qur’an 3:54 “Allah is the greatest deceiver” – “Allahu khayru al-makireena”

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Allah_the_Best_Deceiver

Whacko

WikiIslam is not the source of Islamic knowledge at all.

Arman Melkonyan

The Qur’an is,
Insidious hypocrite=Muslim=Turk

The Objective

I’ll give you a detailed answer to this quote later cos I need to sit down and explain it properly to you. I’ll also provide sources for further reading. This is the kind of CIA interpretation that ignorant people are deceived by. I’ll help you in that regard.

Arman Melkonyan

The Qur’an EXPOSES the kind of creatures Muslims are.

All we need as evidence that Muslims (along with Jews and their Talmud) are the WORST form of semi-living beings on planet earth are found in the Quran.

Islam must be forbidden and Muslims quarantined and sterilized.

The Objective

Would you mind to quote some verses of the Qur’an to explain your point?

cechas vodobenikov

a strange looking drone—probably effective
however drones do not occupy territory
all the US B-52’s were unable to subdue the vietcong

Lazy Gamer

Alright, remedial secession is the last move. To do that someone has to sneak-counter attack at villages already lost. Find the pit where they dispose the bodies, interview survivors. and bring back the evidence and lay it out in the UN.

Whacko

The enemy’s military unit was captured During the successful combat operations of the Azerbaijani Army in the direction of Fizuli, the military unit of the Armenian Armed Forces was captured by our units.The enemy was forced to flee, leaving behind equipment, weapons and other military weapons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFtOXnO3Igg

Willing Conscience (The Truths

” The Karabakh army’s heavy military hardware includes: 316 tanks, 324 armored vehicles, 322 artillery pieces of calibers over 122 mm, 44 multiple rocket launchers”.

11 BM-21 multiple rocket launchers; from 44 multiple rocket launchers.
7 T-72 battle tanks; from 316 tanks.
2 MT-LB armored vehicles; from 324 armored vehicles.
1 BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicle; from 324 armored vehicles
1 9K33 Osa air-defense system. from unknown.

The Turks and Azerbaijanis certainly did pick their targets well didn’t they, 19 high value targets and only 3 low value targets.
Anti drone weaponry is needed fast, and if the equipment isn’t already on it’s way now, it’s going to be too late when it does get there.

Антон С

Light UAV’s without cumulative bombs/missiles can’t be used to destroy high-armored targets even by direct hit.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

The Turks used Anka-S and Bayraktar TB2 drones.
The Anka-S has two underwing weapon stations, which can carry weapons such as the Rokestan Smart Micro Munition (MAM-L) air-launched missile launcher, and it can carry all these types of warhead,
High-Explosive Blast Fragmentation
Thermobaric
Anti-Tank Warhead.
It also uses the CIRIT 2.75in guided rocket pod to engage light armoured vehicles, personnel, military shelters, and ground radar stations.
The Bayraktar TB2 drones also uses the same systems so can kill tanks too.

Антон С

Again and again this hoax about “wunderwaffe” which is not flying in dense clouds. Main part of all targets is damaged or destroyed by artillery. It’s fair even for much more advanced armies. UAV is a spotter. And “Bayraktar” has no enough powerful shell to destroy a tank. 20kg high-explosive bomb is not enough to penetrate armor, it’s not cumulative shell. “Harpy” has mixed HE-cumulative warhead, but just 8 kg. There are no heavy UAVs in the region. Same as trusted information and videos.

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