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Artillery Fire, Drone Attacks, Child Killed. Did War In Ukraine Begin? (Videos, Map Update)

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Artillery Fire, Drone Attacks, Child Killed. Did War In Ukraine Begin? (Videos, Map Update)

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The situation in Eastern Ukraine remains tense for weeks already. The ceasefire violations take place on a regular basis. However, the recent days, the situation seems to get worth. Taking into account the on-going deepening of the political crisis, the large-scale military escalation is expected in the nearest future. Or has it already begun?

According to the special statement by Public Militia of Donetsk People Republi (DPR), on April 3, Ukrainian soldiers carried out an attack on civilian settlements, using an UAV trapped with an improvised explosive device. The attack was carried out by the Ukrainian 59 brigade in the village of Aleksandrovskoe, DPR> As a result, 5-years-old boy was killed and a women was injured.

Some sources claim that a fierce artillery fire exchange took place in the Luhansk republic, near the villages of Bryanka, Stakhanov, Kirovsk, on April 2.

On April 2, Radio Svoboda Ukraine published a video reportedly showing the shelling of Ukrainian positions in the area of Donetsk airport (Peski, Vodyanoe, Donetsk region). The news agency claimed that Ukrainian positions were fired with mortars and grenade launchers.

The locals shared a big number of videos from civilian settlements near the frontlines. The following video was reportedly made in DPR:

Houses were burned in Zaitsevo. Poletaev. A few minutes before the fire, a 12.7mm caliber heavy machine gun Utyos was heard from the Ukrainian side.

According to pro-DLPR sources, Ukrainian planes arrived at the Chuguev airfield in the Kharkiv region. Ukrainian helicopters were also reportedly spotted near the Donetsk frontlines in Donetsk republic.

Videos showing dozen of Russian combat helicopters over the border with Ukraine, including the Ka-52 Alligator and Mi-28 Night Hunter attack ones, emerged online.

Meanwhile, Kiev continues the transportation of its military equipment to the frontlines, as Russia sends more troops to its borders with Ukraine and in Crimea.

Among other military developments in Eastern Ukraine:

– On April 2, artillery of the UAF targeted Oktyabrskiy neighborhood in Donetsk
– On April 2, artillery of the UAF targeted Kuibyshevskiy district of Donetsk
– On April 2, artillery of the UAF targeted DPR positions near Alexandrovka
– On April 2, artillery of the DPR forces targeted UAF positions near Shumy
– On April 2, artillery of the DPR forces targeted UAF positions near Pisky
– On April 2, artillery of the DPR forces targeted UAF positions near Vodiane

OnApril 3, Ukrainian General Staff Spokesperson Colonel Pavelko announced that Ukraine will start participating in NATO operations in the Eastern Mediterranean and Iraq.

We plan to increase national contribution to NATO operations and missions.”

Zelenskiyhad his first telephone conversation with Biden on April 2.

“President Biden supports Ukraine in everything, and his team highly appreciates everything that President Zelensky does in reforming the country. Joe Biden added that he is waiting for the opportunity to visit Ukraine again, and also recalled his speech in the Ukrainian parliament,” Ermak wrote on his Facebook page on Friday, commenting on the negotiations.

Artillery Fire, Drone Attacks, Child Killed. Did War In Ukraine Begin? (Videos, Map Update)

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Biden’s call, accompanied with numerous claims of US support to Ukraine and current visits of Western military officials to Kiev and eastern frontlines, risks to be a clear signal to Zelenskiy to switch from political provocations to full-scale military attack on DPR and LNR.

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Rhodium 10

When you are going to arm wrestle to someone much stronger than you…you lose!..Sadly many Ukrainians soldiers will die for nothing!

The Objective

And so will the Russian soldiers

Band Itkoitko

If that’s your hope, you are a desperate man. If there would be a major war in UA, Turkey will take a major beating. Brace yourself.

The Objective

What do you mean by “UA”?
I don’t care whether there’s a war between Ukraine and Russia. I’ve got no allies there, but I support Ukraine from a moral ground. I know after studying Russia’s actions over the years that the Russians have imperialistic ideology. Thank God I didn’t go to study there as I had contemplated some years back. Whenever they lose a puppet leader, they try to intimidate the new government by seizing or threatening to seize land. I’m sure members of the CSTO are watching this carefully. If they one day decide to leave the organization, Russia will likely invade and try to annex those Muslim countries. But what I know for sure is that the era of annexing Muslim countries is over for any power. The U.S is still struggling with its war in Afghanistan and Iraq 20 years after invading. That’s the promise of Allah. We are not a people you can easily defeat “by defeat, I mean imposing your way of life on us or owning our countries”.
I can see the rise of an Islamic empire even though you maggots seem blind to it.

Constantin Florin Boșneag

Your Islamic empire will suffer the same fate of the Ottomans & all the other empires which came before them. Romania & the other Eastern European nations will drown your armies in the Danube, burn your cities to the ground and send all jihadi idiots to meet their makers. Keep your Allah and your imperialist dreams out of the Balkans, for we Eastern Europeans will not tolerate the existence of another Islamic empire and to attempt to create one, would be a death sentence for Turkey and the rest of the Muslim countries. We are still the nation of Vlad the Impaler, here. And our Balkan brothers have not forgotten their history, or the history of what you jihadis have done to these lands. You had best keep your heads down and continue to secularize. Because the revenge of the Balkans is coming for Islam. And it will be a great and terrible thing to behold, a last crusade to cleanse the world like an unstoppable tide. Either way, Islam will cease to be. Whether it dies off peacefully through secularization, or is annihilated under the tracks of Eastern European tanks, remains to be seen.

The Objective

An impressive threat. Well, be prepared to carry it out then. A battle between us have been foretold in the Sunna and the Bible. It’s what they Armageddon. I can see such a struggle has started already.
Muslims continue to secularize? What a laugh. go to Muslim societies which were once secular and notice the trend of islamization. Turkey is a prime example.
Your western world is in decline and will continue to decline. It was first an economic decline with the rise of China and other moderate economies. Then the military tech gap that you once enjoyed began to close. Before, America can invade any country in the middle east by simply deploying forces around that country. With the proliferation of missile and precision tech, they are now forced to fight from thousands of kilometres away.
Before you talk of defeating the Muslim world, tell your master (America) to first defeat the Taliban.
You know not what you are talking about.

The Objective

The Ottoman kicked your asses for 600 years before it collapsed – largely due to the corruption of its latter rulers. America has only been a super power for about 70 years and it’s already in decline. Russia is even less significant, because if you were to strip Russia of its nukes, you’ll see that it’s just in the league of the European powers.
I’m not gonna talk much. Just watch.

Nod

Lookie you, all twisted in the head with hate and stupidity…

saying that…

“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
Robert J. Hanlon

Band Itkoitko

We are either blind or you are hallucinating. Think about it.

The Objective

If I’m hallucinating, then you shouldn’t be complaining so much about Turkey and Pakistan.

Band Itkoitko

Where have I complained about Turkey or Pakistan?

Even if some people complain here, it is because of the illegal actions of Turkey (which BTW is also against Muslim people), not so much against legitimate desires of Turkey (or any state) to be a strong country that is doing well. Yet, the problem is your Turkey is going over her head and this can have destructive outcomes for her own nation. They can be strong but need to be realistic. This is where I mean you might be “hallucinating”.

The “success” in NK wasn’t a true success to justify an empire. After all it was a success against a genuinely small and incompetent military group in NK, and only because Armenians turned out impressively stupid when playing politics (that’s rare). Now, Turks are going with inflated unrealistic ego and can easily fall from this height.

Turkey is actually quite weak in my opinion relative to their ambitions. There’s nothing to complain, they are not that strong, even if they are legitimately an important country.

The Objective

“illegal actions of Turkey (which BTW is also against Muslim people)”
Honestly I’d like to know which of Turkey’s actions is harmful to the Muslim world. Maybe you have observed something that I missed. I’d be glad to know if I’m supporting Turkey wrongly and I’ll immediately stop my support. Promise.

“Yet, the problem is your Turkey is going over her head and this can have destructive outcomes for her own nation”
I think this is Turkey’s problems and no outsider should complain about it the like the people are doing here on SF or CNN or VOA etc.

I didn’t say Turkey is an empire. Don’t get me wrong. I was implying that we are actually working towards an Islamic empire. And it’s not only Turkey that is involved in this process. There are Muslims allover the world working to build an enlightened (Islamically) and united community of Muslims. Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Qatar, Turkey, Tunisia, etc. have a large number of these Muslims pushing Islam towards that direction. You may not be following events in this Muslim countries otherwise you’ll realize that Islamists are getting more powerful and look set to dominate the Muslim world’s politics in the near future. The monarchies and dictators you see today will all fall before the current instability sweeping the Muslim world ends – or at least most of them will fall.
Maybe you should research this: https://assamcongress.com/congresses/assam-kongre-2020/congress-20-main-theme.html

Band Itkoitko

I mean mostly the illegal intervention and abuse of Syrians. I know that in your eyes that is normal and fine, but in fact is sick.

OK. I don’t think your Muslim empire will have a long and happy life or will ever exist. Of course, only time will tell. But for truth to be proven and manifested, you need to make your best effort and only when you fail after that it will be clear. Don’t be mediocre and excuse yourself with mediocrity in the end and say “if it was like that, it would have…” Make your fully invested and best honest effort, so it may become clear and be revealed that you are on the wrong side currently.

The Objective

I’ve chosen Islam just like other 1.8 billion people have worldwide. I can give up everything – including my life – to see that Islam progresses and regains its strength. It’s the same spirit in Erdogan, Imran Khan, Mahathir, Taliban, Qataris, Libyans, and millions of others around the world. We know it isn’t going to be easy, that’s why we’ve prepared our minds to accept the consequences – including death to ourselves or loved ones. I am sure you can never break this spirit in Muslims like us. It’s the same spirit that kept the Taliban on their foot for 20 years fighting the World’s largest and must advanced military. Soon you will not be able to invade one Muslim country.

Nod

st00pid fluck, they kill Muslims and steal Syrian oil…

Nod

“And then he thought: Is this how idiots rationalize their st00pidity to themselves?”
Orson Scott Card,

You are simply too st00pid to figure out that your enemy is a globalist. Those financiers who do mass murder on Muslims using Americans and Zionists and Muslim halfwits just like you, to do it. So they can impose usury, and steal resources.

Keep babbling dimwit.

Rhodium 10

Surely Russian soldiers just watch how a rain of lomg range guide Rockets,
ballistic Missile, air to ground missile, cruise missile, guide artillery hit Ukrainian positions until they leave them…

The Objective

As if the Ukrainians will just watch and not use their missiles. Did you know that Ukraine is the 12th largest arms exporter globally and that Ukraine has mastered missile tech?

Rhodium 10

jajjajaa… good joke!

Nod

They also have sex with Donkeys… We Americans consider that a crime, the Ukrainian Nazi consider it a good time.

Oliver Eitel

ur Ukraine soldiers are all pinpointed with target cross above their head, they will die same way as the NATO-Islamic State fighters in Syria…..

The Objective

They Syrian rebels you fought (which you still haven’t totally defeated) had no airforce, navy, or even professional land army equipment. Ukraine is a different ballgame pal

Ricky Miller

Some, but nothing like in Ukrainian ranks. Russia has far better firepower, longer range lethality, better morale, and her soldiers can be reasonably sure of both their government, and of Russian civilizational narratives. And, precision weapons advantages and decisive airspace control. Teams from two very different leagues.

The Objective

Yeah, Ukrainian soldiers will die more than Russian soldiers, but at least the Russian soldiers will still – which is a good thing for the countries they are currently invading.

Ricky Miller

Are your sources of information spitting informational vomit into your head? Russia isn’t invading any countries.

Nod

what a tool you are…

“He had just about enough intelligence to open his mouth when he wanted to eat, but certainly no more.”
P.G. Wodehouse

justaminute

And so will American soldiers

The Objective

Perfect! Let them both die for all I care.

Frank

Frankly, you are a twit. Russia can obliterate Ukraine in a matter of hours. Stick with your Iranophobia rants as Ukraine is outside of your trolling grade.

The Objective

Never mind where I stick my nose. You Russians started it when you followed America’s lead to interfere in the affairs of Muslims. Russia will regret it – I promise you that.

Jihadi Colin

Why, are you going to do magic spells?

The Objective

More than that

Nod

On your knees? I have wooden nickels….

cechas vodobenikov

pervert wishful thinking

Pave Way IV

ARTILLERY FIRE, DRONE ATTACKS, CHILD KILLED. DID WAR IN UKRAINE BEGIN?

Begin? It never ended. This is the phase where Ukraine slowly tortures Russia-speaking civilians in Donbass right in front of the Russians. The Ukr commanders are psychopaths – the more visible misery and suffering they create in Donbass, the better. A mortar here, a rocket there. Infrastructure hits. TB-2 strikes. They can do this forever. Question is: how long can the Russians watch and do nothing? I’m not saying they should do something, but that’s the game NATO-fellating Ukraine leaders are playing. Ukraine can’t mount any kind of effective military campaign against Donbass or Crimea because Ukraine conscripts would just quit. They’re not dying for the corrupt oligarch cabal in Kiev. No amount of propaganda or censorship is going to change their minds – they know Russia is not their real enemy.

Pave Way IV

New Chief of the Center for Combatting Disinformation, Polina ‘Goebbels’ Lysenko. In other words, NATO propaganda whore. Sorry, Polina, but you’ll never be a Natalia Poklonskya. Ever. The ugliness of lying about your corrupt regime goes all the way to your soul. You’re one of them.

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Assad must stay

russia needs to do something to make it clear there are HEAVY prices to be paid for these one-off attacks if it cares about the russians living there

Fog of War

Putin cares more about the ” Russians ” in Israhell then about the true Russians in the Donbas.

Frank

That is the truth Frankly.

Assad must stay

maybe, i hope not tho

cechas vodobenikov

LSD produces brain fog

Band Itkoitko

Putin is seeking all possible ways for a political solution or at least deescalation. When all this fails, Russia will turn the other cheek and enter the battle directly.

Frank

Frankly, Putin’s confused policies and appeasement of these NATOFAGGOTS only encouraged them. Russia should have liberated Ukraine the same time as Crimea. Now American assholes and Jew scum have infested Kiev.

Band Itkoitko

The original inhabitants of official Kiev (the UA nomenklatura/deep state) are not that great already. Westerners and Jews don’t add much to the story.

Liberate Ukraine from who? Form themselves? They seem to want to be with the West. It’s not like the Southern Russian parts like Odessa and Mariupol rose enmasse against the Azov Nazis.

Frank

Frankly, the Jew scum and NATOfaggots are gunning for Russia. This is not the time to show weakness. The Donetsk People’s Republic needs full support for their heroic struggle to hang on to Russian lands and dignity.

Ma_Laoshi

This is deliberate Russian policy: to keep Donbass as a “frozen conflict” and a thorn in Kiev’s side is a cheap way to frustrate the latter’s NATO ambitions. Except of course that the price is not low for the Donbass residents themselves. It’s not exactly “do nothing”, for the Donbass republics are getting enough support to avoid being overrun, but not enough to deter the endless shelling attacks on them.

Moscow is getting away with this because the Donbass people know that life under the Maidan junta wouldn’t be all roses for them either. But it detracts from Russia’s PR success (denied but secretly envied by the West) in Crimea, whose residents were offered a viable future. For so many people in that part of the world, the question is: If you were to leave the NATO reservation, will the Bear protect or just use you?

Pave Way IV

This has to be some part of the motivation on Russia’s part, Ma_Laoshi, but it’s certainly not the only reason. I would argue that it’s not even a major reason: NATO can change their own rules whenever it suits them. Russia knows that.

chris chuba

Why would Ukraine actually attack? An attack with ground troops is complex and very costly.

Why wouldn’t they just bring up the heaviest artillery / missiles they have and shell it into oblivion. NATO / Ukraine’s native arms industry is going to have heavier weapons than the small amount of weapons that ‘our partners’ Putin let’s trickle into the east. Also, ‘our partners’ Putin has never embraced ‘Right to protect’ and been ambiguous about what would provoke a Russian intervention. A land attack might provoke Russian intervention but artillery attacks might not, especially since the ukro-nazis will use human shields.

Band Itkoitko

Situation is truly complicated. It seems like the only thing that would work is if Russia gets involved when least expected on the verge of inevitability, as it was in Georgia.

It seems that to have a maximally efficient intervention, the conflict needs to have sufficient heat in it already. So you are saying that UA will try to maintain it cool enough. Can they? They are desperate and the monster in the clock is chasing them. The empire has very little time left, as well. Economic collapse is looming.

Nevertheless, I hope Russia even in the current state can provide defensive support at least in the form of electronic warfare deployment against drones. This mostly doesn’t need to leave Russian territory and can help heating up the conflict sufficiently for an intervention. Taking down some other aircraft might not be a bad idea by EW means, disable some of the surveillance satellites of the empire in the area, etc.

If Russia decides to escalate, I think they should escalate above the level that is immediately suggested on ground – sink any “partner’s” ships in the area and burn their assets on land.

Robert Ferrin

In their own good time I was reading where Russia sent two of their heavy transports into Belorussian along with airborne troops makes me wonder if the Russia will send her troops into the two break always while another column comes up from the Crimea to join them with an airborne drop behind them forming another cauldron which Russia is famous for.

Golda

Exactly. Or perhaps a pincer attack on Mariupol from 2 directions? To connect the LPR/DPR with Crimea would eliminate the NATO naval threat to the Crimea and Sea of Azov . .

Fog of War

True, lets see if Russia will just fire its weapons across the border Israhelli style. Although, I doubt they will. Only the “chosen” get that privilege.

HiaNd

“Russia gets involved when least expected on the verge of inevitability, as it was in Georgia.”
No.
In Georgia, Russia reacted in the most predictable way.
after Georgian attack on Russian peace keepers.
The danger was not in Georgian troops (or in Ukrainian) but in Western MSM propaganda who tried to present Russia as an aggressor.

The essence of all US-NATO interventions is to present them as “defenders”(against “aggressor”) of some just cause in any war through the Western mass media to gain popular support.

“can help heating up the conflict sufficiently for an intervention”
Russia doesn’t need exactly “heating up” for intervention.
They will intervene only if Russian citizens in Donbass are in danger.
That is what US, France or many other countries would do if their citizens are in danger.

J Ramirez

They could just counter every attack with a direct hit on Ukrainian military bases thruout the county hit all ammo depots, take out any warships and show them a really good time ;}

SnowCatzor

Probably because the Ukrainian government have deluded themselves into thinking A) The US will actually back them up, and B) Having purchased a few new drones and Javelin missiles somehow gives them a major advantage (it doesn’t).

In reality, drones have never gone up against anything stronger than a second or third-rate air-defense system, but even then, they still lost plenty of them (Syria, Libya, NK). Against Russia on it’s own borders, such drones don’t stand a chance. But I’m guessing they hope to just slowly whittle away at Donbass forces without provoking direct Russian intervention – a dubious hope I’d wager.

Much like Ukraine’s traditional air power, it’s drones would quickly be grounded in any open war.

TiredOfBsToo

“..because the Ukrainian government ..”

A) They’ve been talking bs for so long, they’ve come to believe it. B) Since the weapons spigot has been opened they believe the climate has changed and NATO will back them up. C) and most important, because the Empire has told them to go for it and that the prize of Crimea awaits them.

The reality of course is that the Empire just wants to cause trouble for Russia anyway it can and besides, it’s only Ukrainians and Russians which stand to die.

cechas vodobenikov

Putin and Lavrov have explicitly stated “right to protect”
otherwise you are likely correct; both sides frequently use artillery. direct battles are rare. Ukraine cannot effectively send military vehicles/tanks given the trenches, land mines bottlenecks etc that have been created. human shields are not a factor since few civilians are now living along the line of contact— DPR/LPR defenders are much better situated to shell the ukraine troops that concentrate in bottleneck areas where roads exist

Erik Ziel

Yes, that is how i would do it.
Sending hundreds of tanks. And then supprise them with thousends of drones…

He who laughs last laughs best

Just this isn’t enough to call it the “begin of a war.”
But if it escalates further it might become.

Frank

That is the Zionist intent. They see Russia as a soft target and last resource rich frontier for plunder. The Jew 5th column in Russia is very powerful.

angrycitizen

Give everyone in LPR and DPR Russian passports and vote for secession. No twitter rage can counter that one and and I doubt any amount of shelling can undo that either.

Fog of War

But Putin doesnt want that.

Garry Compton

They already have Russian passports , anyone in Ukraine that had a mother or father Grandparents etc. from the Soviet days – can have P P, Last year Ru passed out 400,000 of them. Same in Crimea – except those folks that have family in Ukraine can take Ukrainian PP – and they do . So, really , the Ukie army is attacking Russian and Ukrainian citizens – together. Disgusting .

HiaNd

According to Russian law, citizens of Ukraine and Belarus who are fluent in Russian can be recognized by a special commission as native Russian speakers based solely on their application and without the need for an interview if they or their relatives permanently reside or have previously permanently resided in Russia or territories that were part of the Russian empire or the former USSR
https://ukranews.com/en/news/716544-russia-simplifies-citizenship-procedure-for-ukrainian-permanent-residents

Garry Compton

I’m thinking that after the last big surge of ” refugees” into Russia in 2015 and on { millions } , the Russian Passport agency , decided to make available, passports to the Ukies and others. With another big surge in mind, the Ukrainian folks with Russian PP could easily move into Russia when the next large confrontation started – mainly in order to make it easier at the border and easier for the Ukie population to get out of the way. I saw the lines at the OVIR offices in Crimea, after the vote and they were massive. And those lines lasted for a few years. Folks from Ukraine, Belarus and Moldova were those lines.

HiaNd

If Russian economy recovers fester then EU economies, than ” refugees” will keep arriving.

Garry Compton

Crimea and parts of Southern Ru is booming, multi housing construction, road construction, new schools, , renovations, utility and water projects etc. – Russia is spending some serious money here. And the Zionists and the One World Order Cabal – doesn’t like it, so they had to start a war – just like when Germany’s economy took off in the middle 1930s. Boy I wish the world would wake up.

cechas vodobenikov

we know amerikans are stupid and cowardly
are the Ukrainians this stupid? they may provoke with artillery, but I doubt a full invasion…but perhaps they are as stupid at the Georgians

D Ferguson

Ukraine needs to understand, and I believe. That the US is not going to send US boots on the ground to protect a Country that has no value. The Ukraine Troops need to know the US will only go until it runs out of Ukraine bodies to throw at the Russian Army. Then the War will end with the blood of many at the gratification of the few. Sad to see close families fight while the evil ones in DC try to get an angle on Russia.

justaminute

T%he US probably already has troops on the ground, just as in Syria

Fog of War

Yes, ” observers and trainers ” AKA human shields .

Ivan Freely

No troops; just “advisors”.

Dick Von Dast'Ard

This is where the Russian Army has no other option other than to put some manners on Nato, once and for all.

It’s payback time!

HiaNd

Either way you turn, any conflict against NATO will end up with nuclear Armageddon in which there is no winner.
So (in your opinion) Putin is to directly contribute in extermination of all Russians to get his revenge?!?

So how that exactly makes “payback time”, if the final result will not be a Russian victory, but defeat of everybody on the planet?!?

Assad must stay

but hiand,, NATO is not giving russia a choice, is it?

HiaNd

There is almost always some choice.
Russia must win against Ukraine, not start war against NATO.
The point is to liberate those Donbass Russians of the Ukrainian oppression one way or another.
Not to destroy all planet and kill all Russian’s in that process.
Just because of stupid hasty revenge.
any idiot in Putin’s place could start WW3
Russia can’t sacrifice lives of 145 million Russians just because they want to take revenge for few million ethnic Russians in Donbass being oppressed.
Russia has moral and legal right to defend Russian citizens against Ukraine. If NATO enters Ukraine the WW3 will start.

Assad must stay

Right but russia cant control that but they can prevent nato stuff from coming in

HiaNd

as long as NATO personnel and equipment is in negligible numbers Russia will tolerate that
But if NATO would start to send (fr. example) tanks of fighter jets, (doesn’t matter in how small numbers). Than we would have another cold war (Cuban) crisis.
we would be VERY close to WW3…

Assad must stay

Yup thats war, all caused by the west, not russia

Dick Von Dast'Ard

Russia has been fighting Nato directly and indirectly for over 75 years, nothing is new there…
Chechen wars even had that fighting boil over directly onto Russian soil.

HiaNd

“Russia has been fighting Nato directly ”
?!!?
WHERE, WHEN?!!
Russia does exist only for 30 years, not 75!
What “Chechen wars” have to do with that?

Dick Von Dast'Ard

Russia has existed ever since Rurik… You should know that.

HiaNd

Don’t play with the words !
If you doesn’t want to answer my question and you ignore my comment by misinterpretation of my comment.
Than my conversation with you is finished !

Golda

Clever ruse: provoke Russian intervention and then accuse Russia of brutal invasion, slap more sanctions on and ostracize her in the media and courts of world opinion. Putin is wise to be cautious, as any idiot can react predictably and fall into the trap. When dealing with a psychopath, you have to use caution . .

BMWA1

HATO modus operandi

HiaNd

The name of the game is always the same.
The same plan was in Georgia.
In that scenario of course US, NATO is presented always as protector of “peace”, defender of “justice” and “savior” of defenseless against “aggressor”.(Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya etc.)
They tried hard in MS Media to present it that way in Georgia. But they didn’t have success in hiding a fact, that it was actually Georgians who attacked Russian peace keepers.

Lots of armchair generals here, on this forum, would do exactly what Americans are hopping.
So far Putin never did anything they wanted him to do.

SalusPopuli

Artillery exchanges have been constant. The improvised drone attack seem like extremists trying to provoke something, not as the beginning of a war.

Assad must stay
James

Perhaps with the convoys of tanks to the border Ukraine is more serious about taking on the Donbass this time? I imagine it wouldn’t be easy, but would it be possible without Russia’s intervention?

1shotthesher1ff

Ukranian/US propaganda and head games. Hopefully Nord Stream 2 will be finished soon and Ukraine will have even less leverage.

Davki

I suppose the title wants to say: „Has war begone“… otherwise the sentence is incomplete. But enough about incorrect English. The war must be seen in the context of the pandemic-hoax. Russia isn’t playing along as it‘s supposed to and their vaccines are a lot cheaper. Embargoes anyone?

Nod

The vaccines are not vaccines, they are gene therapy, treating a disease that isn’t so dangerous to most of you. While they all lie and pretend it is logical and possible to eradicate the covid with so called vaccines that mitigates symptoms and doesn’t prevent transmission.

Russia IS playing along. Just doing it their way.

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