All Against Erdogan: Turkey Will Keep Its Course Towards Russia And Syria In Any Situation

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All Against Erdogan: Turkey Will Keep Its Course Towards Russia And Syria In Any Situation

Written by Evgeny Satanovsky; Originally appeared at VPK, translated by AlexD exclusively for SouthFront

This article was released by VPK on June 12, 2018

Turkey is approaching elections. If President Recep Tayyip Erdogan wins, he will get a government system revolving around him, on which he focused his entire career. If he loses, there are other options.

The main events in the state take place in the sphere of domestic policies. At the same time, Ankara continues to fight with the Kurds in Syria, challenging the positions of Iran, Russia and the United States and entering into the most unpredictable alliances.

The official representative of the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) Mahir Ünal stated: “According to public opinion polls, support for Tayyip Erdogan is expected at the level of 54 percent, the AKP up to 47 percent, in the upcoming elections”. In the early parliamentary elections on November 1, 2015, the AKP received 49.5 percent. The AKP’s optimistic forecasts are confirmed by all public opinion agencies. The “Dunya” newspaper compared the results of ten polls on the support of the parties at the end of May. The AKP has an average of 42 percent and its Republican People’s Party (CHP) competitor at 27 percent, but some measurements indicate that the party in power can gain less than 40 percent, which will not stand a chance of taking a majority of seats in Parliament.

Pre-Election Forecasts

Erdogan, according to surveys, has a chance to win the presidential race in the first round with a minimum legal limit of 50 percent plus one vote. In case of a second round, the candidate must gain a simple majority. The company Remres gives Erdogan an unpleasant prediction: in the first round, the president will receive 36.2 percent, in the second, 42.2. If in the second round the opposition nominates a single candidate, Erdogan’s margin will be minimal.

Early parliamentary and presidential elections in Turkey will be held on June 24, after which the amendment on the introduction of the presidential system of government will officially come into force. The race involves six candidates: incumbent President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Muharrem Ince of the CHP, Meral Akşener of the opposition “Good Party”, Temel Karamollaoglu of the Happiness Party, Doğu Perinçek of the Patriotic Party, Selahattin Demirtaş of the Kurdish People’s Democratic Party. Before the parliamentary elections, the Supreme Electoral Commission accepted eleven political parties.

According to American analysts, under the general opinion of leading sociologists, Erdogan will be able to win the elections, but it will not be without alternatives. Two main reasons can play in favour of this: the internal economic instability and the unusual for Turkish domestic political life the unity of opposition candidates, which, given the differences in programmes, have one main goal, to legitimately prevent Erdogan from becoming a dictator. But no matter who wins, Turkey will face constant problems in relations with its Western allies, the EU and the US. According to American analysts, Erdogan’s victory and the AKP will aggravate them.

For incumbent President Erdogan, who together with his party has developed the current constitutional changes, the stakes of the upcoming vote are high. If he wins, he will receive the uncontrolled powers of the President with the prospect of power over the next decade. At the same time, the American experts agree that today Erdogan and his party have every opportunity to win the vote, but for the first time in 15 years of rule, the victory will not be so convincing. At the same time, even with the Parliament becoming a secondary body for state decision-making, the opposition will likely seriously expand its presence there.

The Islamist AKP was able to win the parliamentary elections for the first time in 2002, which was due to two factors. The victory was preceded by years of economic crisis, which undermined the legitimacy of the country’s ruling coalition in the eyes of the voters. Plus, the law requires that parties to receive at least ten percent for passage to the Parliament. Those who fail are deprived of the votes received, and those who have reached or exceeded the bar, divide them proportionally. This enabled the AKP to win a majority in Parliament in 2002 and in subsequent elections without the appropriate support of voters.

After these elections, the AKP and Erdogan took advantage of the failures and competitors’ mistakes, creating and destroying temporary political alliances based on the momentary conjuncture. Thus, in 2014, the AKP broke off the alliance with the Gulenists, who played a decisive role in their political victory in the early 2000s. Then the ruling party put forward a proposal for a coalition with the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP) to ensure the nomination of a package of constitutional reforms in 2017. As a result of this alliance, the AKP has the current level of support. And the defeat of the Gulenists was the result of the struggle for power and much more than the result of a change in the domestic political situation.

Erdogan’s main consideration in all his internal and external actions is the idea of maintaining his personal power at any cost. If he could secure the presidency with an alliance with the Kurds, and not nationalists, he would have made an alliance with them. Moreover, experts believe that the Kurdish factor is important in the election campaign. The Americans say that in the past Erdogan received four to five percent of the Kurdish votes. This time, such a level is unattainable for him. However, the Turkish president is not concerned with the Kurds (he will buy them to the extent he needs, as he did in the last parliamentary elections), but the nationalist electorate, which began to flow from the allied PND camp to the ranks of the Happiness Party, which was one of the reasons for the announcement for early elections.

Weakness of the Turkish Lira

The economy is an important cause for concern. The value of the Turkish Lira has fallen to record lows against the dollar and the Euro, inflation is high, and the President’s efforts to influence monetary policy have led to an outflow of international investors. The economy has led the AKP to the top, and now can deprive it of the power. Turkey’s fragmented opposition was able for the first time to unite (or make such an attempt) before the elections. Three main opposition parties, the NRP, the Happy and the Islamist “Felicity United” are in an informal alliance based on their desire to oust Erdogan. The platforms and ideologies of the parties are different for a stable coalition, but the level of the current cooperation is sufficient to give the AKP a fight and push the presidential vote to the second round.

This is the main challenge for the opposition. The Happy Party, founded by the HDP defectors, offers an alternative to nationalist voters, unhappy with the HDP coalition with the Erdogan party. Turkey’s oldest political party, the NRP, will rely on the traditional base of secular, liberal city voters, critical of the President. The Felicity Party reflects the Islamist ideology, which is also professed by the AKP, providing an alternative to religious voters who oppose Erdogan. Plus, all three parties will seek to get the support of twenty percent of the Kurdish population.

Thus, in the parliamentary elections no one from Erodgan’s opponents reset the score. In the event of his victory in the presidential race, the Parliament will remain the only force, albeit modest in terms of opportunities (without the authority to cancel the decrees of the head of state), capable of influencing domestic policies. None of the three coalition parties will receive an absolute majority, but together they can challenge the AKP in the Parliament. With enough votes, the opposition may try to collect a two-thirds majority to repeal the 2017 constitutional amendments, which is unlikely. The key issue of the balance of power in the Parliament and its ability to influence Erdogan’s policies as future President is the capability of the opposition to form a stable coalition in the legislature.

If the opposition reaches the goal in the presidential race, the second round of voting will take place on July 8. This is not an ideal scenario for Erdogan, but he does not guarantee victory to the opponents either. Three main opposition candidates, Meral Akşener of the “Good Party”, Temel Karamollaoglu of the Happiness Party and Muharrem Ince of the CHP build their campaign rhetoric mostly around economic issues. One of the main factors influencing the outcome of the upcoming elections is the level of uncertainty and insecurity. Erdogan has long positioned himself as a leader with unique skills to solve problems in the country, and continues to exploit the image of the saviour of the fatherland. The state of emergency, the repression of opponents in the judiciary, the army and the security forces and the media should facilitate the achievement of this task.

The state of emergency can provide the necessary recount in case of a problem with obtaining an absolute advantage. Western analysts in this regard indicate that Erdogan will continue to accuse the EU of interference in Turkish internal affairs, focusing on Brussels’s ban to conduct in Europe election campaigns among the Turkish diaspora. One can concluded that the results of the upcoming elections will not reduce the tension in relations with the US and the EU. In case of inconclusive results for Erdogan and his party in the elections, Brussels will question their legitimacy.

The latter will allow Erdogan to maintain his focus on maintaining constructive relations with Moscow in the military-technical relations, export of hydrocarbons and the nuclear programme, not to mention the development of bilateral trade and tourism, which is critically important for the Turkish economy. Experts believe that changes in Ankara’s foreign policy in the event of Erdogan’s defeat will not happen. They point out that any government or President of Turkey will have to take into account the economic realities and maintain the previous course towards Russia and Syria. It would be wonderful to believe this, if only to forget about the speed with which the vector of relations between Russia and the Ukraine has changed with a much greater level of interdependence and deep ties between them.

Fluctuations in Erbil

According to the Turkish General Staff, the army cleared about 400 square kilometres in Northern Iraq of soldiers of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK). Deputy Prime Minister Bekir Bozdağ said on June 4 that the republic could enter the Iraqi region of Kandil at any time, where the PKK camps and strongholds have been located for the last 35 years. The Minister of the Interior Süleyman Soylu announced on June 3 that the Turkish military was moving towards Kandil.

The PKK, since 1984, conducts an armed struggle for independence in south-eastern Turkey mostly populated by Kurds. Several thousand Turkish soldiers and hundreds of militants were killed after the conflict escalated in July 2015. Ankara considers the PKK a separatist terrorist organisation. The communiqués about the successes that no one can confirm are not only a tribute to the election race in Turkey itself. Edrogan is losing influence on the nationalist electorate and is trying to reverse the trend with the help of unsubstantiated statements.

The deal with Washington on the withdrawal of Kurdish advisors from the Syrian branch of the PKK from Manbij gave Ankara’s efforts a second wind. The same applied to the PKK’s opponents in Iraqi Kurdistan (IR). The government of the Kurdish Autonomy of Iraq demanded that the PKK soldiers leave the areas bordering Turkey to prevent escalation. In this case, the Barzani clan is trying to influence the presence of pro-Iranian groups in the IR, as advisors from the IRGC supervise the PKK. Tehran strengthened its influence in the region after the Barzani clan failed attempt to hold a referendum on independence. In addition to the leadership of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (UCS), he relies on the PKK.

The last statement of the representative of this structure is a nod in the direction of Ankara. Local authorities want to restore allied relations with the Turks. The Barzani clan intends to return the Turkish presence in the IR to its former level in order to weaken Tehran’s influence. Among other things, this shows that the recent negotiations on the concessions of the Barzani clan to the Iranian interests, which were led by the leaders of the largest Kurdish Special Services, Masrour Barzani of the KDP and Lahur Talabany of the PUK (he did this on direct instructions from Tehran) two weeks ago, ended in vain.

The issue of Kandil is raised by the Turks due to Iranian concessions to Turkish demands for the PKK withdrawal from Sinjar in May. In the East, one cannot give in. Tehran will almost certainly not go to meet the Turks against Kandil. And for the KPP there is nowhere to go after leaving their main mountain base. Kandil is not Afrin, the Turkish forces will have to fight in very difficult conditions. It is unlikely that Ankara will go for this. The logic of the election campaign, ambiguous by the results of the campaign, may lead Erdogan to decide to hold a “small victorious war”, but it has all the chances to become a failure, fatal in consequences for the Turkish President.

Iranians and Iraqi Shi’ites will not be satisfied with the role of outside observers in case of direct Turkish military intervention in the region. It is possible they will not join the Turkish army in a direct armed confrontation, but will provide the PKK with serious logistical support, the consequences for the Turkish military seem to be a little less regrettable than the war with the Iranians and their local allies. Thus, we can state the beginning of a mutual rapprochement between Ankara and the PDK, focused on the confrontation with Iran in northern Iraq.

Confused “Road Map”

The “road map” for the Syrian city of Manbij, agreed at the meeting between Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu and US Secretary of State Michael Pompeo, will be applied in other parts of Syria. The head of the Foreign Ministry announced this at a press conference in Washington. Ankara and Washington will work on the parameters of the “road map” for the withdrawal of the Kurdish forces “People’s Self-Defense Forces” (SNA) from Manbij. Çavuşoğlu said that the President of Turkey approved the “road map”. The head of the Turkish Foreign Ministry expressed hope that the withdrawal of the SNA will be realised within six months.

In principle, the “road map” was to come into effect on June 4. At the same time, despite all the optimistic remarks of the Foreign Minister, there are serious doubts that the agreement on Manbij has been implemented to the extent that Ankara presents it. This means a departure from the Pentagon’s strategy of action in Syria, including the most negative consequences for the alliance between the Americans and the Kurds, which is negatively related to the Arab Sunni population east of the Euphrates and in northern Syria.

In the implementation of the “road map” Kurdish troops should move away from the border of Syria and Turkey into the interior of the country, which will allow the concentration of the “Forces of Democratic Syria” (SDS) in the troubled areas east of the Euphrates, but put the traditional areas of residence of the Kurds under attach by pro-Turkish forces. This changes all the US tactics in the Syrian course, demonstrating the rejection of stakes on the Kurds and the creation of a military-political alliance with Turkey. That is, the implementation of what the United States categorically refused about a year ago.

The collapse of their relations with the Kurds and the removal of the latter’s troops from the Arab Sunni areas to traditional residence places are inevitable because of the strengthening of the Turkish danger. Such a scenario is fraught with the completion of the American-Kurdish alliance and the fact that Washington will be faced with a shortage of loyal troops to the east of the Euphrates. Thus, it will not be able to replace the decline by pro-Turkish forces or local Arabs. The delivery of Afrin and the transfer of the Kurds out of the Euphrates testify to this.

Syrian Manbij remains the subject of dispute between Ankara and Washington. Joseph Biden, when he was Vice President of the United States in 2016, promised that the Kurdish fighters of the SNA, which are part of the SDS coalition, will leave this town after its liberation from the Islamic State (banned in Russia) militants and move to the eastern shore of the Euphrates. However, it is doubtful that the Pentagon agreed to this, especially given the fact that a month ago Ankara was warned against a possible attack on Manbij. During this time nothing crucial, which could have affected the position of the US military, has happened in the American-Turkish relations.

As far as one can understand, not everything is as smooth for Ankara as it tries to present. Most likely, the agreements were rigidly stipulated by the Americans with the execution of two conditions by the Turks. This is the refusal to purchase the S-400 Air Defense Systems from Russia and the freezing of the “road map” until the ISIS forces are finally defeated on the Iraqi-Syrian border, where a large-scale military operation involving the Kurds is taking place. If they are cheated, it will mean a serious change in the operational situation in northern Syria. But in practice, in the current conditions, the emergence of the US-Turkish alliance in Syria is extremely doubtful.  This will be a challenge to Russian interests in Syria, to bring down the Astana negotiation format on the settlement and will not remain without an unpredictable reaction from Moscow. To risk this before the elections is too dangerous for Erdogan.

The article is based on materials from expert Yu. Schelgovin from the Middle East Institute

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  • Russie Unie

    Go on Erdogan ! I hope Sunday will see his victory ! We need the Reis !

    • eako.baran

      you have no idea what he is.

  • Merijn

    Seems the Kurds start realising that they are the “Final Pocket”… better return to your “Own” grounds boys if you don’t want to lose it all…

    • potcracker2588

      one thing is for certain 100%, if the SAA will ever conquer back their entire country, the kurds are dead meat, period.Even with russian assurances, or us assurances, the kurds have no place ever in syria again.You can be sure, that (if Assad controls all territory again)when the battles are over and all foreign forces have left, and whatever agreements are made between kurds and the syrian government on reconciliation, they will get killed.No government in any country could ever trust again that part of the population, that were hand in hand in the murdering,raping and stealing with foreign invading forces.How did Assad put it a month ago ” the kurds are the biggest traitors to be.” and he was spot on. Where did the kurds live and prosper?who where their neighbors and brothers? and as thank you, they murder,rape and steal.I have only the deepest shame for such human beings, who have no honour,no character,no heart and pretty soon no country to live in.and I wont shed a tear when hearing that the SAA butcherd them traitors.not one.

      • FlorianGeyer

        They could all emigrate to the US and Canada :)

        • S Melanson

          Being in Canada I must ask… is there a return policy?

          • FlorianGeyer

            Only if you pay the return postage and sent them to the return address in Washington DC. :)

      • Merijn

        First they were “Heroes” they fought ISIS… they could have bargained whatever they wanted… until they chose to become “Rats”… Traitors because the U.S. Bought their Leaders.. they Sold their Souls to the Devil…for Personal Gains….Now they will have to reap what they sowed…they Got the War they Wanted… and it will Last until they get the Ears to Listen….they are Completely Surrounded…what do they Think? That they will get Away with it? Then they are even more Stupid than I thought…

        • ابوعبدالله العراقي

          As i said in my other comment in different thread, they betrayed us. The kurds are traitors and they deserve that.

          • matt

            They should betray you, because you fucking opressed them for too long!!!

          • Merijn

            He is Baron Von DonkeyBasher…

        • matt

          You are simplyfying the situation, something you tend to do sometimes. At some point the kurds did not have any options left to get support, do not forget that! The kurds lived MUCH longer in Syria then the arabs, so why should they be called traitors???
          Would you call your beloved native americans traitors for standing up to the invading europeans??
          NO but a long time ago, the arabs were invading Syria and most people that call themselves arabs today are actually arabised syriacs and kurds!!! This was not genocide but democide, wich is not that humane as well. So the last remaining kurds that were not arabised, persianified, or turkified, should have EQUAL RIGHTS, SELF EDUCATION IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE AND SELF RULE

          • Merijn

            Sure I like to simplifie… Black & White… Good & Bad… as the word itself says: It Keeps things Clear & Simple….I said that Kurds were Heroes a couple of moons ago… then they chose to work for & with the Americans… there had been Talks with Assad & the Russians… but they chose for the Yankee-Dollars…stupid choice… they lost every right for negotiations about Land… Sharing in Resources and all that…You can’t have it All

          • matt

            To be honest, if i have to choose between assad and putin or usa at gunpoint, i choose usa
            And i think even you as well

          • matt

            Wich pissed turkey for good reasons???
            NOT AGREED

          • Merijn

            The relations between PKK & Turkey never have been very good… so if America starts Arming the PKK…Turkey is not Happy…

          • matt

            The pkk exist for a good reason

          • Merijn

            I was for the Kurds after the Gulf War… When they Fought Saddam…and the West Betrayed them…they got Butchered… because NATO promised them Air-Support that never came…

          • matt

            Kurdish struggle is WAY older, check kurdish history in osman empire

          • Merijn

            Sure…the Struggle of OUR Country is way older too…Many Tribes Came and disappeared…I’m a Remnant of the Old Tribes and I claim My Legal Right to the Throne of Holland! Which has been stolen from Me by a German!!!

          • eako.baran

            first there was English now its the US. Kurds have always been a useful tool for the imperialists.

          • matt

            First there were kurds, then the turkish invaders!!

          • matt

            Assad never offered this, you have ANY idea what BAATH stands for?

          • Merijn
          • matt

            Bollocks! Assad is a treacherous murderer that- in your eyes- has no right to live

          • Merijn

            Show me some links and some evidence please… unbiased… no White Helmets or European crap.. because everyone is always blaming Assad… Just some evidence…I ain’t a big fan of any Leadership at the moment..told you before

          • matt

            A link is never a proof, but i thought you talked with the syrians i introduced to you. Apart from that, the regime is very violent, the war shows that. I know you want to believe there are good leaders on this planet, but NO there are only MURDERING PSYCHOPATS or leaders that help them

          • Merijn

            That is something I fight Against… for a couple of decades now… If all People stop Fighting that System of injustice..the Ruling Elite will win… and these Folks will be Free to do basically Whatever they want…Assad might be Guilty… The American & European Governments are Guilty as Hell for Murdering Hundreds of Millions of People… and they Go Unpunished? I don’t think so… Times are Changin’ and I hope to see the Day that they have to appear in Court… Until that… I’ll continue blaming them for bein’ Liars & Traitors… no more hidin’ for these folks…or treacherous lies on TV…those days are over

          • matt

            Just read something about pan arabism and baathism. It could help you understand why kurds are no fans of assad

          • Merijn

            I did… what is wrong with wanting to unify the Arabic World? We can have a long discussion about their Leadership… but there is absolutely nothing wrong in wanting a United Middle East… the only Ones that will NOT Like it are: Britain, the U.S., Israel, Wahhabistan in its present form, France perhaps Italy…and ofcourse the Kurds… for they have squandered their opportunities to become a relevant party more or less…

          • matt

            In my view there is a lot wrong with pan arabism, because it is fascist. An arab union would be good, a bit like the EU, but one arab nation is a recipe for opression and violence

          • Merijn

            Things have to Grow… the West has been involved in the middle East the last Centuries… look what happened.. Corruption… Distrust… Hate… Polaristion… Abusing Faith to create Diversion…Neo-Colonialism.. for the Black Gold….the Whole Political Spectrum of the Middle East is BECAUSE of the WEST…time to pack their gear… Let folks themselves Decide what they want… for at least it will be their own Decision… oppression… I don’t think Youngsters these days don’t like Oppression that much… it will come to Fall….They Communicate with the World… they know what is going on…

          • matt

            Were you present at the negotiations??? Don’t forget not only the western media uses propaganda….

          • Merijn

            All I have is a tiny bit of information and how I look at it….Time will tell…I ain’t sayin’ that what I say is the truth… it is how I see things… And if enough people say How they see things… Truth is everywhere to be found… that is how the brain works…you automatically start thinking when I pose something…true or false..

          • S Melanson

            I have been following your conversation with Merijin. Good debate but thought I would weigh in on this one. The first gulf war had the main objective to liberate Kuwait. The other objective was to overthrow Hussein. The US encouraged a general uprising against Hussein on the assumption US forces would enter Iraq, having liberated Kuwait. And the Kurds were not the only ones who rose up, so did Shiites. The mistake was starting an insurrection prior to US invasion of Iraq – they should have waited. If they had, they would have soon realized the US had a change of heart and that Hussein was their man after all. The US assumed, incorrectly, they would easily bring Hussein back under heel and given Husseins iron rule greatly admired by US planners, the invasion of Iraq was taken off the table of options.

            The US even viewed the premature uprisings as beneficial since Hussein could crush the insurgents and strengthen his grip while being in the US back pocket- or so they thought. The US did encourage the insurgency but promises were vague and only suggestive of support for the uprising with invasion. The US was being very mercenary while the leaders of the uprisings naive.

          • matt

            Why do you think you need to post this? Nothing new here, i did read the news back then as well and your story isn’t giving any new info.
            What is your point?

          • Merijn

            Because They BETRAYED Your Beloved KURDS…..& the Shiites… as in TRAITORS…they Let it Happen…the U.S. & NATO… perhaps it was just part of the whole plan…Saddam would Become the STRONG-U.S. Puppet again

          • matt

            There is no whole plan, these leaders are humans not some A.I.
            Humans make mistakes and make choices based on emotions, even the smartest…
            So yes human history is violent and nasty (yesterday is history as well, tommorow will be history next week) and it will not change soon, but there was or is NO grand plan, this is NONEsense and overestimating humanity

          • Merijn

            There is always some Plan… it sounds pretty naive to say there isn’t a plan… there always have been plans…ideas…Bilderberg that is where they make plans too right… a little Brainstormin’…that is makin’ plans…War is based on Planning & Plans they Even have a Checklist of Countries that the U.S. wants to invade… Now that is a plan…. the Banksters want to have the Absolute Power & Control over People (which is impossible but they still have that plan…read something about the FOREX-System)…the World is filled with PLANS….the BIG Question is….. Will Their Plans Succeed?

          • matt

            Some plan is not the same as a grand plan. Not all the banksters are friends, they also rival eachother because all of them are greedy

          • S Melanson

            Matt, my post was a response to your question about ‘negotiations’. If what I said was old news, not sure the point of you asking Merijn.

            The point of my post is quite strait forward. The US is a fickle ally and the Kurds should have known better then to get into bed with the US. They knew how Turkey would react, everyone did.

            So it does not take a genius to see how the Kurd alliance with US would play out. US would have to choose eventually between Turkey and Kurds. Where would you place your bets?

            The Kurds chose poorly despite the historical lessons staring them in the face.

          • matt

            There was not a big choice for the kurds. It was americans or assad basically, so from their point of view not so strange to choose for the americans. You know what the assad clan did with kurds in the past right?

          • S Melanson

            You indicate the Kurds had little choice or as the saying goes – stuck between a rock and a hard place. I think I understand where you are coming from. I would like to hear more of your thoughts on this, it would be good to hear a different perspective.

          • Mustafa Mehmet

            like what,?

          • matt

            Opression by the osmans for centuries.
            Right wing nationalism from the kemalist turks

          • Merijn

            I think Russia… the People are nice….and Iranians and Syrians too… there are nice Americans too.. but so many folks in America have a thirty inch thick wall right in front of their face…

          • matt

            In the end, most people are brainwashed….

          • Merijn

            Sure…and as individual very many people very friendly…it changes when you flock them together…their mentality changes or somethin’.. a herd of people can do strange things

          • matt

            Excactly, but this is because most people are afraid to turn against the group….

          • Merijn

            Oh..well..luckily I never had that problem… perhaps I’m the Resistance…part of me roots…

          • matt

            Perhaps you just live in your comfortzone and do not have a clue what war means….

          • Merijn

            Moluccas…War… Christians versus Muslims….20 years ago… always dealing with different governments and their tricks (You know the situation between the Moluccans & the Dutch Government right? They Helped Holland for Hundreds of years.. and in the End got betrayed Big Time)…No Comfortzone for me… I have been livin’ on the other side long enough to recognize their Evil Lies….and I am Angry.. for I have learned the Last Couple of Years How things Really Function…and that History is nothing more than the Execution of a Plan…Holland is as Guilty as England & the rest of Europe…yeah I know what War & Fighting is and means… I come from a Family that helped smuggle British Pilots back to England…Fighting & taking risks… no problem… it’s in me blood…

          • potcracker2588

            so if i come to your house take awya your kids…and comeback later i ´ll get invited to a barbecue??
            get a life donkey

          • matt

            I have a very comfortable life…
            But assads troops are no saints either, blind fool!

        • eako.baran

          the US ”formed” PKK. It was their project all along. Mastermind is the zionists, of course.

      • ابوعبدالله العراقي

        You are dead meat, you know that right?

        • potcracker2588

          still sucking jew cock are you? what about the swallowing of jew cum..thats what makes u proud ey???

      • matt

        Bullshit, sheik massoud is under assad control and nothing happens with the kurds. Damascus has kurdish areas and nothing happens with the kurds. I guess you don’t know any syrians personally…

        • potcracker2588

          read my post complete moron…..” only when they SAA have control over ALL their lost territories will the attack begin”…so you telling me….that when your former neighbors go hand in hand with invading forces, raping and killling your friends and families you´ll live next door to them again and have a good nights sleep?get a life moron….ps. i´m quoting assad ” them kurds are traitors and they will get what they deserve” period…so you know more than assad moron? ever heard of the “FORCED RECRUITMENT BY KURDS” its on a constant daily basis….u dont know what that means asshole(now im pissed)….THE KURDS COME INTO THE VILLAGES AND TOWNS,THEY FORCEFULLY TAKE YOUNG BOYS AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES ON GUN POINT…..and you telling me what? thast all gonna be fine again……and that those syrian families will say” yeah the kurds took away my sons, killed some,tortured others but hey we welcome them back into syrian society…..you know what fucko..be happy we never meat….maybe i should come to your house…take away your kids..come back later ans ask for a barbecue.
          moronic asshole of a donkey you are….i quess your own kids are worth shit.thats what one calls satanic prick…….

          • matt

            You are a lost case….

      • eako.baran

        must add : they control a major portion of drug trafficking into the EU and the UK.

      • Tommy Jensen

        Thats why it was better they got their own land in north Syria/Iraq like Israel. I heard 200 000 Jews in Israel are willing and waiting to move to Kurdistan.
        If Israel is providing assistance they could live in the north for themselves without bothering Assad and anyone.

    • Siegfried

      .. And the tragedy of each man that survived the mayhem:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOTIjSWTTcs

    • Tommy Jensen

      Our Marine boys fighting for freedom loosing their made or wife. They did it for America.

      • Merijn

        I look at it this way: Common Folks were all betrayed during WWI & WWII… the Real Reasons & Targets of this War…were a lot different than I was taught in school…and everyone suffered for the honor and glory of the Elite…for King & Motherland…

  • Michał Hunicz

    I would personally support Ince or better Aksener, not that jihadist moron “insultan”.

  • JEinCA

    Erdogan is the biggest snake in the whole region. If he had stood by Syria in the first place instead of betraying Assad for his Anglo-Zionist partners it’s quite possible there never would have been a war in Syria and over 500,000 lives would have been spared.

    • Mustafa Mehmet

      Remember Assad father what he did to turkey?he was supporting pkk against turkey so. I don’t support what’s going on in Syria now innocent people suffering

      • eako.baran

        Turkey, a NATO member, has been hostile towards her non-NATO neighbours. If you are not in good terms with your neighbours, your neighbours will not just sit there and watch you help instability in their countries but will reciprocate.
        Iran, Syria and Russia’s support of PKK back then was therefore understandable. Now they realize that PKK is a threat to the peace in the Middle East, and that they are part of zio-US greater middle east project which would divide Syria, Iraq and Iran too, they no longer do that. Turkey is in a very critical position at the moment (not in a good way).

  • ابوعبدالله العراقي

    Visit our site proud muslim com, you can find here the best Islamic state nasheeds censored by YouTube.
    https://proudmuslim.bandcamp.com/track/balighu-mina-abu-bakr-salama

    • Merijn

      Hey fuckface…Devilworshipper..Brave Killer of Women & Children… How’s the weather in Tel Aviv? You must be the Son of Satanyahoo himself….why do you keep coming Back? You must like it here

      • ابوعبدالله العراقي
        • Merijn

          Have to admit… you are a funny Headchopper…

        • Merijn

          Question: Have you heard about ISIS’s new inflatable sex dolls?

          • Merijn

            Time’s up… no fridge for you…
            Answer: They blow themselves up!

          • ابوعبدالله العراقي

            whaaaat…

          • Merijn

            Yeah too late… you could have won a fridge if you gave me the correct answer but you fucked up… better luck next time

          • potcracker2588

            still sucking jewish cock are you?swallowing to i guess, thats why you cant answer my question…thats ok bro….i´ll wait for you finishing swallowing jew cum……anyway would be nice of you , when swallowing finsihed to answer my question……do you foks ahev to suck jew cock to become full IS members?

        • potcracker2588

          so brother moslem…is it true that you have to suck jewish cock to become full memeber of IS?

          • ابوعبدالله العراقي

            Stop this nonsense.

    • Concrete Mike

      Fuck you fake muslim peice of shit.
      Your nothing but tools for israel, some muslims you are. Why fightong fellow muslim instead of fighting for al quds??

      Because your a fake ass muslim your pigs thats what you are…you and your sponsors.

      • ابوعبدالله العراقي

        Do you know authors of these nasheeds? Hint: Its by our Islamic state. Since when can non-muslim call other muslims fake muslims? Die in your rage, unto you we will come, with beheading and death with fright and silence. So taste the loss and go back fleeing, a nightlong run.
        https://youtu.be/t9ArPT39h2c

        • Merijn

          YOU ARE NOT A MUSLIM!!! BUT A DEVILWORSHIPPER….remember that CUNT! Many of my Friends are Muslim… they don’t preach Hatred fuckface so don’t Pretend to be a Muslim…Salafistic Crypto-Wahahabi-Takiri…Wahhabism is there to Divide Shia & Sunni…and Create Hatred in the West for Muslims…

        • Concrete Mike

          Bwahaha try and behead me, ill shove a 2″ wrench down your throat so deep you can use your asshole to change a wheel bearing. And i got lots of wrenches for your buddies too.

          Or I can feed you through the crusher.
          Allah does not approve of what your kind are doing.

          You are nothing but an israeli tool. Search your heart, you know its the truth. We know the truth, we fight for liberty, you fight for fascism.

        • potcracker2588

          hey joe…still sucking cock of them jews or are you working on your swallowing methods?

      • ابوعبدالله العراقي

        Or this one? Again guess the author? O Hearts of Iron by the Islamic state.
        https://youtu.be/5e_vy6xhCcQ

        • Merijn

          Second Chance…
          Question: What’s the shortest organ in a goat?

          • ابوعبدالله العراقي

            Stop it, i really dont get the kuffar jokes.

          • Merijn

            Answer : An ISIS member’s penis
            Get that? Or should I explain it for you?

          • S Melanson

            I gave them a suggestion above on how to make better use of their penis

          • Merijn

            Here it is real bro…I’m not Kiddin’
            Watch this shit…
            https://youtu.be/lyD_Q6Ar6xc
            Oh… this one’s with the Donkey…well who cares..

          • ابوعبدالله العراقي

            FAKE! It is not even from land of Iraq and al-Sham. Hint look at the bottom HUD display in other videos there are GPS coordinates. Old archived video from ~2003.

          • Merijn

            It is you… we caught you live on camera bro… our Intel goes way beyond yours…you are still living in the Stone-Age…we got UAVs and all that.. nightvision…you only have your Donkey and a Torch that you got with your happy meal and some other stuff the U.S. gave ya….

          • ابوعبدالله العراقي

            Allah granted us the greatest weapon in this world: The weapon of fear. Fear has to be the best psychological weapon that you can deploy. It can change brave men into cowards and frightened women into killing machines. Did you not see the bare footed men defeating our vast enemies? Sophisticated weapons are no match for us. It all requires people and courage. The rus and american is scared of death while we are not. We are well educated and know that all the hardships in the world eventually lead to completion of its eternal dream of entering paradise in hereafter. When one thinks about the pleasures of Jannah, the worldly delights seem to be irrelevant. That is why, a believer gives away everything it has in the way of Allah Almighty in a view to be successful on the Final Day and go into the Garden of the gardens.

          • ابوعبدالله العراقي

            How many times a small company has overcome a large company by permission of Allah. Al-Barqarh: 249 Victory is from Allah. We do not attain victory trough our equipment, our ammunation, or our members. We only attain victory when our Lord is pleased with us.

          • S Melanson

            We only attain victory when our Lord is pleased with us.

            Hmmm, given how well things are going for you guys, Allah must be pretty pissed.

            Maybe you should switch Gods and pray to the great God Mulebanger! The obvious advantage is your ilk and Mulebanger have something in common. This I am sure will please Great Lord Mulebanger, although much less so the nervous mules.

          • Merijn

            Yeah I had exactly the same Idea….but sometimes it is nice to tell Headchoppers what you think of’m….I had a nice movie for him…the “DonkeyBasher” hehehe…

          • potcracker2588

            so brother…are u still sucking jew cock? i mean you had to suck jewish cock to become a full memeber of IS?

          • Merijn

            I rip off your Goddamn head and use your skull to piss in when I can’t find the Toilet.. You think I Fear Motherfuckers Like You??!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          • ابوعبدالله العراقي

            Watch this with open eyes and mind: https://videopress.com/v/mqfPtddp?at=2385

          • Merijn

            You Are Western Headchopping Mercenaries…Tools to steal Land & Resources…overthrow Governments and replace them with U.S. Puppets…Your wounded Buddies Were treated in IsraHell by IsraHelli Doctors… Your Weapon-Shipments made possible by Wahhabistan.. but the Big Fish who paid for them: The Deep State…CIA… you know..they also provided you with these slick Camera-Images of Slashing Throats & Burning Pilots..Hollywood-Style…UAVs…Nice Brand New Dual Cab Toyota Hilux Pickup Trucks complete with ZPU1 Gun special edition….Airsupport by NATO when the SAA & Allies came too close…Didn’t Your God Teach You Not To LIE!!!

          • potcracker2588

            is it true that you have to suck jew cock to become full memeber of IS?

          • Concrete Mike

            I dont fear you because your cowards. Mano a mano I would rip you to shit.

            You a dishonor to all muslims. Takfiri

          • hamster

            I think you’re confusing “fear” with disgust and repulsion. Nobody “fears” retarded stone-age barbarians with low intellect walking around with machetes reciting the “nasheed”. Most people in the world, as well as most Muslims, are just REPULSED and DISGUSTED that primitive little pests like yourself haven’t gone extinct yet. I don’t “fear” you. I look at you like a rat or a cockroach, with disgust and derision, anxiously waiting for pests like you to be exterminated. Looks like I didn’t have to wait long. You’ve basically been irrelevant for the past year and half, so you’re back to typing incoherent dribble on the kuffar internet while posting some shit “nasheed” music on kuffar internet platforms. And you think people “fear” you. LOL. Nobody even pays much attention to you anymore.

          • potcracker2588

            so brother moslem…..do you have to suck jewish cocks to become full IS memebrs?

          • potcracker2588

            please give me an answer brother smart..
            do you have to suck jew cocks to become full members of IS?
            thank you cock sucker

          • potcracker2588

            please brother smart……Do you have to suck jewish cocks to become full IS members?
            thank you

        • Concrete Mike

          You guys a israeli puppets, so dance motherfucker dance

        • potcracker2588

          please answer me brother smart?
          Do you have to suck jewish cocks to become full IS members?
          thank you.

    • potcracker2588

      Is it true that IS fighters have to give jews a blowjob to become full members?

  • Siegfried

    “All Against Erdogan: Turkey Will Keep Its Course Towards Russia And Syria In Any Situation”

    Opps! Yet another clever USraeli-move :))..
    Yes, good so!
    Continue to mob the little Sultan and he will soon f*ck your useless NATO and joins.. ASSAD and PUTIN :)))))
    Oh my God… that’s too beautiful to be someday real :)) That would be the hit of the year 2018, to see Erdogan’s troops helping ASSAD :))))))))
    Guess BIBI gets a stroke like Ariel Sharon

    … And QUATAR joining IRAN and Syria, getting Russian military assistance and real good weapons .. quite under the nose of Saudi-Arabia, with all the Saudi OIL-facilities overnight in reach of Qatari tactical missile-systems, with S-400 watching the skies and Qatari SU-35 in the air, Armata-tanks waiting on the border for a Saudi stvpid move . ( We’ll see how quick the whole Saudi-mercenary-sh*t runs out of Yemen, being needed at the Qatari-border :))))).

    And the US-Air-base in Qatar will have a new neighbor: a RUSSIAN base stuffed with SU-35, Armata-tanks, DRONE-tanks, S-400, KALIBR- launchers and PANTSIR- units :))))

    • matt

      Dream on, silly boy, its never going to happen

  • hamster

    Muharrem Ince is probably the best realistic candidate that can genuinely be pro Syrian and pro Assad. He has promised to end the bullshit, to restore and normalize relations with Damascus, to take a hard line against the PKK while respecting kurdish language and culture, and has vowed to return millions of Syrian refugees into Syria after the terrorists in Syria are wiped out.

    Erdogan is a fucking DOG. NEVER trust a Sultan!

  • Baron Von MuleBanger

    Erdoggy should be hanged for his crimes and treachery.

  • Spit

    Everybody knows he is going to win his Turkish election.
    Erdegon will Milk Syria for all its worth while the Russians Strugle to save Syria. Its a Big game.. Open Your Eyes.
    Yes, The Russian people would LOVE to see Syria and Syrian people as a whole, but at the same time, We are doing everything that we can, please do not blame us if we dont do a perfect job at the end.
    This is going to be a long war, Make no mistake.