Pro-Jihadi sources reported that the Jaish al-Fatah operation room (it includes Al Nusra) has sezied the Aleppo Artillery Base in southern Aleppo almost breaking the siege laid by the Syrian army on the jihadi-controlled parts of the city. The operation had been launched with a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device (VBIED) attack.
The Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (al-Nusra) VBIED attack on the Aleppo Artillery Base:
Other sources say that clashes are still ongoing in the northern part of the base.
Meanwhile, Fateh Halab is conducting operations against the Syrian army in the Ramousah neighborhood of Aleppo.
seems like rebels won the fight for aleppo
lol Thats not wining… to Win the Aleppo battle There Still a Long way To Go Through. even if They broke the Siege it will be nearly Impossible To get Reinforcments Through due to AirStrikes.. SAA will propably perform a Counter-attack in 1-2 Days..
So letting those VBIED’s near them was also a strategy? Why didnt they use atgm’s to destroy those VBIEDs?
It’s a pretty built up area and I’m not under the impression that the SAAs ATGM doctrine is that solid. Unfortunately, only one good VBIED strike is all it takes to severely damage a portion of the front line. They pack what, hundreds of kilograms of explosives? Any infantry caught anywhere semi-close is going to be in a world of shit when that shockwave hits.
Obviously their ATGM doctrine is poor in spite of taking so many casulties just bcz of rebel ATGM attacks and still they didnt learn from them. One VBIED and the whole front line is in disarray but still no wide spread use of ATGMs? Who is their planner i wonder? Or it is russia who cannot provide these ATGMs in big numbers. Use metis M which can be fired from a confined space unlike other ATGMs.
What the hell is the SAA doing while this happens?
Look at the orange on the map. SAA decided those farms on the wrong side of a river were more important than the Artillery College. – This is the biggest f*ckup of the year by the good guys :(
Dont ya Worry mate They know what They are Doing.. Almost all of the Remaining Terrorist Forces Are in the Artillery base Battle… the SAA let Them in as many as possible after that That Region will witness the Most Massive Bombardement in the Whole Middle Eastern Region History u’ll See.. time for Some Terrorists BBQ!
I haven’t seen any TOS-1 in action for quite some time, are there any in the area or left at all? This sort of situation is kind of the opportune moment to start using them after all.
actually, I believe you’re the one who fucked up, since you proven that actually you’re the same person that goes by the nickname “Gryphonne”
Someone is becoming paranoid after the spanking he received last time :D
The first two posters are correct though, defending this area with that fabled RuAF support should have been a cakewalk. However, in all fairness. It’s not over yet. Unfortunately, the SAA is making this very difficult on themselves and they are losing men that they can’t really afford to lose.
“…defending this area with that fabled RuAF support should have been a cakewalk”
I don’t think the RuAF support is as extensive or as effective as you believe, nowadays. The Russian fools are leery of carrying out really effective, large-scale bombing of jihadis, for fear of maybe causing collateral damage to a few civilians and being accused by the Western MSM of “killing civilians” (never mind that they get accused of that on a regular basis, anyway, no matter what the actual facts…). Pinprick air attacks are not going to cut it, in a war like this (especially since the Syrian army has a shortage of manpower). All jihadi positions need to be relentlessly pounded by large-scale carpet-bombing, day and night, before and during any ground action.
The only reason the SAA is still able to hold this area is the Russian air force because it is apparent that the SAA is barely holding it.
I didn’t say that the Russian air support does not exist at all, or it is not useful at all. What I am saying, is that they are holding back from doing the sustained, large-scale area bombing, which is what’s really required for actual victory – rather than “barely holding” some positions. Especially since the Syrian army is short of manpower, tired and depleted after 5.5 years of continuous war, and – let’s face it – not too competent at many things. Pinprick bombing is NOT sufficient in such a situation. The objective should be to maximize the enemy’s casualties and minimize your own any which way possible, particularly when you have a manpower and/or morale problem.
Just obliterate as many of them from the air as you can in the decisive phase of the battle, before mopping up with ground troops. Stop worrying about “collateral damage” (which at this stage cannot be too high anyway), about the lives of pro-jihadi “civilians”, or about the Western MSM’s coverage of the same (which is completely dishonest from the start, anyway). Concentrate the firepower, saturate the enemy with it indiscriminately, until the enemy resistance is broken and the whole thing is over. That’s what the U.S. does – can you imagine them refraining from full-scale bombing in case of a similar critical situation, for fear of what the Russian media might say about them???
You’re absolutely right. The amount of RuAF airstrikes around Aleppo is very disappointing considering the situation. Also, where on earth is all the Uragan cluster rocket artillery and TOS-1? Those things were heavily featured at the start and now I haven’t seen them in months.
I said I was disappointed with the effectiveness of the RuAF to hit assembly areas of jihadi offensives before, but then I got the entire rabid VVS/Kremlin following going after me or something. I guess I’m still right however. For the idiots they are, the US seems more effective in providing close air and interdiction. Not to mention they have constant surveillance with drones that could hit the jihadi vehicles and crews as soon as they crawl out of their holes. Something that I feel the RuAF sorely lacks.
So again, where’s all the rocket artillery that could pound this area to shit? There’s no civlians left there anyway. Where’s the air support that can finally turn the tide?
Air support alone can not solve this,the only reason to repelled the offensive is to counter-attack the jihadist and the SAA can’t do that apparently so all off the air support they have is in vain. The only reason the jihadist didn’t still break the siege is the air strikes,they are close to doing that.
Well, the SAA doesn’t really have the manpower or equipment for costly counterattacks. So in my opinion, the only way to truly counterattack is to smash the area and clear as much of the resistance as possible in said air or artillery attacks. The situation is becoming dire however :(
Al Masdar reported this mourning that the jihadist captured the artillery base so the siege is basically broken. The SAA needs to do something on the ground because all the air strikes on the world can’t stop them if the ground units can’t hold. When Russia started bombing the had 60-70 sorties a day in October of last year and these 6 days they had 50-60 sorties just in south Aleppo but that means nothing if the ground forces do nothing. They need to counter attack at some point.
In that case, I thought the Tiger forces were near, since they are the cream of the crop of the SAA, surely they must be planning something. If the siege is completely lifted it will be an enormous blow to the SAAs morale.
I don’t think their morale is that high anyway by the way they are fighting.
Quite possibly you’re correct.
“When Russia started bombing the had 60-70 sorties a day in October of last year and these 6 days they had 50-60 sorties just in south Aleppo…”
The number of “sorties” in itself does not mean too much, unless they are done in an effective manner that really damages the other side. It’s like, in a fight, the number of punches you throw or try to throw doesn’t matter too much, if you’re pulling back your punches or your punches are ineffectual. If you’re mostly bombing places where the enemy manpower is sparsely distributed, such as stretches of empty ground along the frontlines or abandoned buildings with a few enemy fighters in them, then you can do all the sorties you want and the results will be disappointing; it’s simply a waste of fuel. The jihadi enemy is hiding its manpower until the moment of attack in urban areas, taking cover in residential buildings, mosques, clinics, tunnels etc. Hyper-discriminate, pinprick bombing using the smallest bombs you have isn’t going to cut it.
Agree. Russian and Syrian bombing is more terrorbombing, destroying protection. Many cheeper bombs with low tecnologi.
Americans seemes more specific after asking.
Also agree that infantery can hide or be constantly on the move and keep loses lower, than many people think.
ISIS/Daesh certainly are good infanterist even they make big mistakes too. During the war I still dont understand, why they havent RPG`s and havent shot many of the airbornes down.
Well fine for me. Like Middle East less and less. But from a military point it should be a must to take low- and slow comming down more.
Rolling Thunder V 2.0 till Allahu Snackbar is heard only in hell..
yaya, i see what’s your game. As a matter of fact, calling “spanking” the argumentational debacle you have been handed by me and other just posters is a huge understatement.
Haha, you mean that salty keyboard diarrhea you posted where you couldn’t do without constantly insulting people? Yes, great “argumentation” there alright. The other posters got equally burned by me; such is the price for plain old stupidity.
so Washington=Gryphonne. Now let’s see how long your next nickname lasts. btw, the disgusting themes you bring up clearly reveal a disturbed, homosexual repressed personality.
This nickname will keep on lasting, no worries :D Disgusting themes? I’ve only discussed the SAA. You must be high, or stupid, or both (I suspect it’s only the latter, however). As for you, you seem a little homophobic, what is it? Had a bad encounter with a priest when you were young? Keep it coming though; I love salty tears of despair.
Who’s map are you referring to?
Calm down :) the jihadist offensive have been repelled already: https://www.almasdarnews.com/a…
I can’t believe that the SAA let this happen,this was supposed to be their strongest defence point.
StraTegic Retreat.. Let terrorists into the base, as many as possible. Get Syrian Army out and than blast the daylight out of them. Planes, helicopters, the lot. No civilians in the base to worry about. Fantastic opportunity to get them all.
Are you kidding me?
huh im not…
Let’s see if that happens but i doubt that.
im pretty sure u will See That.. Almost all of The Terrorists that are participating in the offensive Were Trying to Get in There the perfect Chance to get them all !
To big of a risk.
What you suggest sounds like a great idea, but it’s risky. Anyway I can’t believe that saa fought so hard to encircle them just to let them so easily break through s. Aleppo
Calm down :) the jihadist offensive have been repelled already: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-devastates-largest-militant-offensive-ramousah-base-date/
This is time it was repelled,the only way the siege is going to work is if the SAA pushes them far enough from Aleppo.
Maybe because it hasn’t?
Whoever redeployed those men south is an IDIOT; this was such an obvious mistake!
Who do you mean with redeployed?
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Looks like these reports were false. The artillery base has not been taken and the assault was defeated. new pictures show the base 100% under government control.
They are still to close to breaking the siege.
Have you seen the map?As long as the scum outside the city is close to the scum inside those inside will not surrender.
the map is not accurate you idiot ! live on TV you can see it ! they couldnt break the siege and lost around 800 of their 8,000 militants so far
The is no need for the idiot part but because you are an Aussie i get it.
The base fell to the jihadist this mourning so the siege is basically lifted,source is Al Masdar news.
The Jihadists are in a desperate position, they need to keep announcing progress to stop their fighters from retreating.
They are not in a desperate position they still have momentum and they are attacking with full force.
The momentum of losing territory and getting besieged?
What are you talking about?They captured the artillery base this mourning,al masdar reported that.
Looks that way, but Aleppo is still under siege, and the momentum in most of the country is in the government’s favour.
Al Masdar is an American website published in Arizona. From what I’ve seen, they source the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights far too often. Not saying that is the case here, but readers of both those sites should try to verify their stories elsewhere.
Even we here knew this is the most important position and yet it’s going to be overrun by jihadists… How’s that possible?
Obviously the SAA don’t have any reserves, they are stretched beyond their limits, completely exhausted with no additional manpower available (fking cowards are hiding in Germany), while jihadists have endless supplies of men and weapons.
Bad news for you Bad News. The SAA has dispatched a large contigent of freshly graduated regular forces in support of their Allepo defense.
Thanks God, here are some great news: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-devastates-largest-militant-offensive-ramousah-base-date/ The jihadist offensive have been repelled!
u guys need to count high manpower rebels have . it dosent matter if u kill 500 of them , they still have more than 9k man power . saa has air power , other side has manpower , and money . its not like saa has all advantages and still gain some place , lose another . there was a comment that all rebel army is in that site :D . think a bit , when they lose 40 to 50 ppl each day in that area ,it mean they have at max 300 ppl there , rest are waiting .when 1 group die, next replace :D
u look so excited about the rebels man…. looks like they lost around 800 over the last few days…. so keep them coming.. the rest will be obliterated soon.
ohhh and it is not about Quantity of the terrorist manpower. its the Quality : ) and they will be smashed..
There are no major takfiri attacks elsewhere to try to divert SAA forces away from Aleppo. The takfiris are throwing everything into this.
Russia has to use napalm, mininukes and phosphorus! Now!